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Weird that you take issue with someone earning their way into the UFC's rankings by winning 20 fights against increasing levels of competition.Is this your goat?
I agree with this post in principle, and I hate when people call decent fighters "cans".A lot of guys from Khabibs record are looked at as "cans" because their records aren't very good. Years ago in Japan there were a lot of these guys who were good fighters but they werenr managed well/protected and because of this they took fights well out of their weight class and suffered a lot of losses. This doesn't mean that they sucked or that they couldnt give great fighters a run for their money.
Daiju Takase is the perfect example. A lot of clowns on sherdog would look at his 7-13 record on wikipedia and automatically write him off as a "can" when in reality he was a really skilled grappler who should have fought at LW his whole career but because of the unconventional matchup landscape in JMMA he ended up taking fights at much higher weight classes against much bigger opponents and took a lot of losses.
That doesn't mean he was a can. This man rolled up Anderson Silva as if he was a white belt. I'm sure a lot of Khabib's opponents have a similar story fighting in Russia their whole career and are written off as "cans" because of this. I'd bet anything a lot of these guys are similar to Takase in the sense that they are much better than their record suggests.
When I see these kids on sherdog throw the word "can" around like it's nothing I imagine what kind of person they are and how much experience they actually have. Chump ass behavior.
Everybody starts off a can.
That's the problem. The level of competition didn't really increase until he got the UFC. He was fighting random winless fighters as an undefeated prospect. Sometimes he would fight a decent fighter.Weird that you take issue with someone earning their way into the UFC's rankings by winning 20 fights against increasing levels of competition.
A lot of guys from Khabibs record are looked at as "cans" because their records aren't very good. Years ago in Japan there were a lot of these guys who were good fighters but they werenr managed well/protected and because of this they took fights well out of their weight class and suffered a lot of losses. This doesn't mean that they sucked or that they couldnt give great fighters a run for their money.
Daiju Takase is the perfect example. A lot of clowns on sherdog would look at his 7-13 record on wikipedia and automatically write him off as a "can" when in reality he was a really skilled grappler who should have fought at LW his whole career but because of the unconventional matchup landscape in JMMA he ended up taking fights at much higher weight classes against much bigger opponents and took a lot of losses.
That doesn't mean he was a can. This man rolled up Anderson Silva as if he was a white belt. I'm sure a lot of Khabib's opponents have a similar story fighting in Russia their whole career and are written off as "cans" because of this. I'd bet anything a lot of these guys are similar to Takase in the sense that they are much better than their record suggests.
When I see these kids on sherdog throw the word "can" around like it's nothing I imagine what kind of person they are and how much experience they actually have. Chump ass behavior.
To me Demetrius Johnson is the goat if we talk skills - did you see his fight with Rodtang? Mighty Mouse is just a beast, who has proven it again and again - be it standing or grappling.Skill wise I think he is the goat. I think he could’ve broke all the records if he didn’t retire
So? Who was outside the UFC for him to fight? He got to the UFC with a 16-0 record and then moved through an increasingly difficult level of opposition.That's the problem. The level of competition didn't really increase until he got the UFC. He was fighting random winless fighters as an undefeated prospect.
"Can" and "Robbery" are the two most misused and overused words on here IMO.I've said this many times on here sir, I support your passionate words.
To be fair, the guy is obviously trolling.So? Who was outside the UFC for him to fight? He got to the UFC with a 16-0 record and then moved through an increasingly difficult level of opposition.
Khabib isn't my GOAT as that is GSP but the guy posting this had Alex as Avatar and yet that guy never earned his way in MMA and was the recipient of benefits that Izzy laid out for him. Khabib didn't beat a bunch of cans and then get a UFC title fight.
They both have different skill sets but Khabib was far more dominant and ragdolled everyone. DJ lost a few time and even had a bunch of close fights. Imagine trying to compare the grappling between the 2To me Demetrius Johnson is the goat if we talk skills - did you see his fight with Rodtang? Mighty Mouse is just a beast, who has proved it again and again - be it standing or grappling.
Khabib is pretty far behind.
But yeah, I wish Khabib had fought a few more worthy opponents so we could assess how good he really was. We simply do not know. With his best opponents being Gaetje, Conor and Poirier (all strikers), ti simply does not tell us that much. I was really impressed with how easy he took out Gatje though.
Khabib wouldn't have had 16 fights before the UFC if he'd been increasing his competition during it and actually at all advancing.So? Who was outside the UFC for him to fight? He got to the UFC with a 16-0 record and then moved through an increasingly difficult level of opposition.
Khabib isn't my GOAT as that is GSP but the guy posting this had Alex as Avatar and yet that guy never earned his way in MMA and was the recipient of benefits that Izzy laid out for him. Khabib didn't beat a bunch of cans and then get a UFC title fight.
No one cares. Goat talks dont mean shit. Huurrr durrrr this guy is nowhere near the top of my fake wack list. No one cares about your stupid made up list or anyone else's.Khabib is a fantastic fighter, but he is no where near the GOAT talks for me. The quality of most of his opponents were low, and the higher quality fighters were all strikers, besides Tibau who, by most accounts, won the fight.
1 of the 5 best fighters Khabib ever fought was Michael Johnson.They both have different skill sets but Khabib was far more dominant and ragdolled everyone. DJ lost a few time and even had a bunch of close fights. Imagine trying to compare the grappling between the 2
Plus DJ fought in a weak division while Khabib fought nothing but killers at lightweight and overall more skilled fighters
No one cares. Goat talks dont mean shit. Huurrr durrrr this guy is nowhere near the top of my fake wack list. No one cares about your stupid made up list or anyone else's.
Hurrrr durrrr when khabib faces a striker I mean when he faces a grappler I mean when he faces... REEEEEEEE khabib could you just fall down or something at least.