Khabib and Floyd Mayweather both have one thing in common besides being undefeated...

Also you have people like Jon Jones who are outliers.
 
Ogata said:
They are both:

Teetotalism - Wikipedia


Both these guys avoid any alcoholic beverage. Not drinking allows them to recover super fast and it gives them longevity. On the opposite end, you have Chuck Liddle and Conor McGregor who go hard in the booze and this leads to slower recovery which negatively affects their performance.




Donald Trump also refrains from alcoholic consumption but I'm going to be honest with you, he is not doing it for Islam but rather he had a brother who passed away from being an alcoholic.
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Trump did and does a lot of drugs, so abstaining from alcohol is irrelevant in his case.

And there's a huge amount of space between "going hard" with alcohol, and completely abstaining. Having some alcohol, in moderation, isn't going to impact ability to recover.
 
Simple'Slam said:
There is no difference. Consuming alcohol whether you're an addict or not is a conscious act of destroying your liver. In both cases, it's a mental illness. There is no such thing as "moderation" when it comes to outright poison.
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Yeah. OK. Other than being factually, scientifically and medically incorrect, that's a good point.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
That isn't just the west, alcohol consumption happens all around the world.
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True, but the reason I singled out the west is because they put so much emphasis on health & lifestyle stuff, in America you damn near can’t find anywhere to smoke because they’ve turned being a smoker into a huge stigma. And yet they promote alcohol without flinching and pretend it’s good in moderation. In Russia, Latin America, or parts of Africa they don’t give a shit if you smoke, drink, eat cheeseburgers every day, work with asbestos, etc. They treat all the vices the same.
 
moosaev said:
True, but the reason I singled out the west is because they put so much emphasis on health & lifestyle stuff, in America you damn near can’t find anywhere to smoke because they’ve turned being a smoker into a huge stigma. And yet they promote alcohol without flinching and pretend it’s good in moderation. In Russia, Latin America, or parts of Africa they don’t give a shit if you smoke, drink, eat cheeseburgers every day, work with asbestos, etc. They treat all the vices the same.
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Actually they are pretty open to smoking as well. They let you smoke in casinos and patios at restaurants. It's UK that's planning on banning smoking ciggs within the next 10 years. Marlboro is already making plans to stop selling in UK within the next couple of years because of UK's plan to ban smoking. There was a movement with vaping which was a lot safer and healthier than smoking. But the tobacco company made a coordinated effort to attack it with funded studies and using unrelated issues with home made vapes in a different industry like the issues with shady vapes purchased at dispensaries that caused some deaths. Tobacco industry used that to attack vapes for nicotine when it was completely unrelated.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
Actually they are pretty open to smoking as well. They let you smoke in casinos and patios at restaurants. It's UK that's planning on banning smoking ciggs within the next 10 years. Marlboro is already making plans to stop selling in UK within the next couple of years because of UK's plan to ban smoking. There was a movement with vaping which was a lot safer and healthier than smoking. But the tobacco company made a coordinated effort to attack it with funded studies and using unrelated issues with home made vapes in a different industry like the issues with shady vapes purchased at dispensaries that caused some deaths. Tobacco industry used that to attack vapes for nicotine when it was completely unrelated.
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Dude, I’m American. Smoking is very taboo here, especially compared to how it was when I was a kid. Whenever I visit Europe I’m always surprised by how many smokers I see, you just don’t see many in the States anymore. Places like Casinos are the exception, and it makes sense because they’re seen as places of sin where you can indulge in vices (aka Vegas being called sin city). But in regular life, it’s frowned upon here. If you’re a single man, good luck getting a hot date if you’re a smoker. Very few eligible high quality bachelorettes would date smokers if they have other choices.
 
moosaev said:
Dude, I’m American. Smoking is very taboo here, especially compared to how it was when I was a kid. Whenever I visit Europe I’m always surprised by how many smokers I see, you just don’t see many in the States anymore. Places like Casinos are the exception, and it makes sense because they’re seen as places of sin where you can indulge in vices (aka Vegas being called sin city). But in regular life, it’s frowned upon here. If you’re a single man, good luck getting a hot date if you’re a smoker. Very few eligible high quality bachelorettes would date smokers if they have other choices.
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Lots of people vape though
 
moosaev said:
Dude, I’m American. Smoking is very taboo here, especially compared to how it was when I was a kid. Whenever I visit Europe I’m always surprised by how many smokers I see, you just don’t see many in the States anymore. Places like Casinos are the exception, and it makes sense because they’re seen as places of sin where you can indulge in vices (aka Vegas being called sin city). But in regular life, it’s frowned upon here. If you’re a single man, good luck getting a hot date if you’re a smoker. Very few eligible high quality bachelorettes would date smokers if they have other choices.
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Everyone smokes. It's not taboo. Every job someone goes out for a smoke break, they have smoke break stations everywhere. It's not taboo at all. The whole country is still smoking. Go to any restaurant/bars/night clubs you'll see people smoking everywhere. Most of the military smokes ciggs, lots of cops smoke ciggs, bartenders smoke ciggs, basically every job and profession has smokers, lots of people smoke ciggs in general. I don't know what part of America you live in where no smokes ciggs. The rest of the country is still smoking their lungs out.

Maybe more decided to quit with covid adding extra stress on the lungs. But I'm sure there are still people smoking regardless and will continue to do so.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
Everyone smokes. It's not taboo. Every job someone goes out for a smoke break, they have smoke break stations everywhere. It's not taboo at all. The whole country is still smoking. Go to any restaurant/bars/night clubs you'll see people smoking everywhere. Most of the military smokes ciggs, lots of cops smoke ciggs, bartenders smoke ciggs, basically every job and profession has smokers, lots of people smoke ciggs in general. I don't know what part of America you live in where no smokes ciggs. The rest of the country is still smoking their lungs out.

Maybe more decided to quit with covid adding extra stress on the lungs. But I'm sure there are still people smoking regardless and will continue to do so.
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Lol, no. Some people still smoke, but it’s way way way down from peak usage back in the day. It might be a bit more prevalent in high stress jobs, but society as a whole smoking has cratered in the states. This is especially true when compared to Europe.

There was a time when smoking was ubiquitous, kinda like alcohol today. That’s the comparison I’m making, they’ve managed to drastically cut down smoking due to health concerns (see link below) but won’t say a peep about alcohol. https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallm...-to-historic-low-infographic/?sh=6fd9c90e3351
 
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snugglecakes said:
I have another theory as to why… Floyd and kabib received top tier training … while Conor is over at the Irish edmond’s mcdojo…Based off superior training, I wud still favor kabib and Floyd even if they were both raging alcohols and Conor was a Mormon
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Its not just the training,their dads were also in the game,so they basically started training from birth. Also neither was born with a silver spoon which some second generation fighters sometimes get like Chavez Jr,so they know what its like to stay hungry.

Mayweather might be ridiculously rich,but he is training hard rounds against MW's wether his dad is around or not.
 
Add Jerry “The King” Lawler and me to that group! Teetotalers FTW. Alcohol is literally poison
 
moosaev said:
True, but the reason I singled out the west is because they put so much emphasis on health & lifestyle stuff, in America you damn near can’t find anywhere to smoke because they’ve turned being a smoker into a huge stigma. And yet they promote alcohol without flinching and pretend it’s good in moderation. In Russia, Latin America, or parts of Africa they don’t give a shit if you smoke, drink, eat cheeseburgers every day, work with asbestos, etc. They treat all the vices the same.
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Well if you aint got no money,you arent quick to judge if you want to get shitty on weekends or weekdays
 
They also both seem to have progressed post-fighting into excellent coaches.
 
moosaev said:
Dude, I’m American. Smoking is very taboo here, especially compared to how it was when I was a kid. Whenever I visit Europe I’m always surprised by how many smokers I see, you just don’t see many in the States anymore. Places like Casinos are the exception, and it makes sense because they’re seen as places of sin where you can indulge in vices (aka Vegas being called sin city). But in regular life, it’s frowned upon here. If you’re a single man, good luck getting a hot date if you’re a smoker. Very few eligible high quality bachelorettes would date smokers if they have other choices.
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I remmeber going to Paris and going into a bar not knowing u can smoke in there,and im like aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuughhhhhhhhhh!!
 
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