KGD Dawson's discontent with Michael Chandler and privileged LW's!

[Unheralded Truth]

“I definitely think there are people that do not belong in the top 15, let alone the top 10,” Dawson told Inside Fighting. “If you look at someone like Michael Chandler, he’s 2-4 in the UFC. So you
put his record up against my record. I’m 11-1 in the UFC, assuming I beat Diego Ferreira. 11-1 in the UFC compared to 2-4 in the UFC. And you say, ‘Yeah, the 11-1 guy cannot be ranked.
The 2-4 guy ranked in the top 10, top seven though.’ It doesn’t make any sense! And then you’ve got these guys that, they’re not looking to fight the up and comers. They need to take Michael Chandler out of there. If Beneil Dariush loses (to Moicano), he said that he’s probably going to be done if he loses. As soon as that fight is over, assuming he loses, just get
him out of there.”

What do you think, does he have a point here or does him having a good record in the UFC not matter that much? Chandler gets bigger fights and all.

 

[Poirierfan]

I don't care to watch Dawson fight, but I agree with him about Chandler. On top of Chandler undeservingly being given top fights, he's also a prevalent cheater, so fuck Chandler.

 

[Get To Da Choppa]

“I definitely think there are people that do not belong in the top 15, let alone the top 10,” Dawson told Inside Fighting. “If you look at someone like Michael Chandler, he’s 2-4 in the UFC. So you
put his record up against my record. I’m 11-1 in the UFC, assuming I beat Diego Ferreira. 11-1 in the UFC compared to 2-4 in the UFC. And you say, ‘Yeah, the 11-1 guy cannot be ranked.
The 2-4 guy ranked in the top 10, top seven though.’ It doesn’t make any sense! And then you’ve got these guys that, they’re not looking to fight the up and comers. They need to take Michael Chandler out of there. If Beneil Dariush loses (to Moicano), he said that he’s probably going to be done if he loses. As soon as that fight is over, assuming he loses, just get
him out of there.”

What do you think, does he have a point here or does him having a good record in the UFC not matter that much? Chandler gets bigger fights and all.

The difference is that Chandler has always been fighting top 5 guys and putting on exciting fights, whereas in Dawson's only fight against a fringe top 10 guy he got knocked out in 33 seconds

You can argue about Chandler's records, but he's a fan favorite and the UFC is in the business of making money.

 

[TriangleMonkey]

Chandler puts on exciting performances and was a former champ in other org

His Hooker win still is solid

Dawson has a style that isn’t pleasant for casual fans and the one time they stepped up his opponent and gave him a top viewing on a card, he gets KTFO in spectacular fashion

Dude needs to work back up again, maybe use his TD threat to land some strikes he needs to learn

 

[MartiniSIDe]

I don't care to watch Dawson fight, but I agree with him about Chandler. On top of Chandler undeservingly being given top fights, he's also a prevalent cheater, so fuck Chandler.

At the same time he's been competitive in pretty much all of them besides the last Oliveira fight and they all have been amazing.


He doesn't deserve it but I'm not mad about it at all

 

[EndlessCritic]

Dawson needs to worry about his opponent ahead of him.

CDF beat the living fuck out of Rebecki.

 

[ninja boot]

Chandler may not be a future title contender but I don't think that's the reason he's still around. He will stand toe to toe with anyone they put in front of him and can take a serious beating which are qualities that Dana and WME value.

 

[BJJ4Tone]

assuming I beat Diego Ferreira.

 

[BJJ4Tone]

While I agree that Chandler is probably ranked way too high, I have major beef with all the people talking about putting on "exciting fights", as it pertains to rankings and title shots.

I get that fans like exciting fights, but "exciting" should have ZERO effect on rankings.
This post-Conor world we live in is so bass-ackwards. The UFC is not WWE, no matter how badly you want it to be.
Winning is the only thing that matters. HOW you win does not matter!!!

GSP was considered boring with his streak of 5-round decisions, but he's still the GOAT.
If you don't like someone that you find "boring", that's fine, but it should not have any impact on a fighter's ranking.

 

[JKS]

It's an uneven comparison to make. Dawsons impressive 11-1 record vs Chandlers 2-4. Dawson has been working his way up fighting lower tier and unranked opponents, so it's likely he's gonna have an impressive record. Chanlder on the other hand has been fighting only top 5 guys. When you look at records of fighters vs the top of the division, it's mostly always .500, some slightly better and some worse. But it's very rare to have a fighter have a great record vs top 5. First time Dawson got a step up in comp to top 10 he got KO'd by Green.

 

[BEATDOWNS]

It's an uneven comparison to make. Dawsons impressive 11-1 record vs Chandlers 2-4. Dawson has been working his way up fighting lower tier and unranked opponents, so it's likely he's gonna have an impressive record. Chanlder on the other hand has been fighting only top 5 guys. When you look at records of fighters vs the top of the division, it's mostly always .500, some slightly better and some worse. But it's very rare to have a fighter have a great record vs top 5. First time Dawson got a step up in comp to top 10 he got KO'd by Green.

So just go look at Chandler's last 6 Bellator fights then it's even Stevens.

 

[JKS]

So just go look at Chandler's last 6 Bellator fights then it's even Stevens.

His fights from Bellator are irrelevant here, we're talking about UFC rankings. Different promotion.

With that said, I do agree Chandler is ranked too high at #7, he's been getting big name fights as a result of his name. He should be long gone from top 10 and in the 11-15

 

[moosaev]

The difference is that Chandler has always been fighting top 5 guys and putting on exciting fights, whereas in Dawson's only fight against a fringe top 10 guy he got knocked out in 33 seconds

You can argue about Chandler's records, but he's a fan favorite and the UFC is in the business of making money.

Guys like Grant Dawson can’t fight top guys because those fights are given to guys like Chandler even after he loses 2 in a row. Something’s gotta give, you can’t grandfather Chandler into the rankings and give him top fights regardless of how many times he loses. You have to make room for lower ranked guys to get ranked fights.

 

[Tweak896]

So many guys at LW right now that are almost retired. Also many are fine rematching the same guys. Olivera/Gaethje/Poirier/Max/Dariush/Chandler are in this weird bubble where they constantly fight each other and hardly any outside the "names".

I like those fighters and enjoy their fights, but it's sort of blocked most movement at LW. Plenty of them are 50/50 in the last couple years, while many LWs are on strong streaks.

 

[Neck&Neck]

Dawson got that bowling ball face

 

[EndlessCritic]

It's an uneven comparison to make. Dawsons impressive 11-1 record vs Chandlers 2-4. Dawson has been working his way up fighting lower tier and unranked opponents, so it's likely he's gonna have an impressive record. Chanlder on the other hand has been fighting only top 5 guys. When you look at records of fighters vs the top of the division, it's mostly always .500, some slightly better and some worse. But it's very rare to have a fighter have a great record vs top 5. First time Dawson got a step up in comp to top 10 he got KO'd by Green.

This is an unfair criticism of KGD. He has not been matched with ranked opponents, but his strength of schedule has still been relatively strong.

Calling Green his first step up in competition is absurd. Damir Ismagulov is a tougher fight on paper than Green.

 

[Darkavius]

It's an uneven comparison to make. Dawsons impressive 11-1 record vs Chandlers 2-4. Dawson has been working his way up fighting lower tier and unranked opponents, so it's likely he's gonna have an impressive record. Chanlder on the other hand has been fighting only top 5 guys. When you look at records of fighters vs the top of the division, it's mostly always .500, some slightly better and some worse. But it's very rare to have a fighter have a great record vs top 5. First time Dawson got a step up in comp to top 10 he got KO'd by Green.

There is something I think you are leaving out thought regarding Chandler. I don't think he belongs in the top 10 for two reasons. His only relevant win is Hooker almost 4 years ago and he has been really inactive for the past few years. For some odd reason in the UFC you can be inactive for over a year and still be ranked which I have never understood.

The last time Chandler beat a ranked opponent Jessica Eye, Carlos Condit and Nicco Montano were still in the UFC.

 

[JKS]

There is something I think you are leaving out thought regarding Chandler. I don't think he belongs in the top 10 for two reasons. His only relevant win is Hooker almost 4 years ago and he has been really inactive for the past few years. For some odd reason in the UFC you can be inactive for over a year and still be ranked which I have never understood.

The last time Chandler beat a ranked opponent Jessica Eye, Carlos Condit and Nicco Montano were still in the UFC.

Check my post right below the other one.

 

[Ares Black]

Dawson is not wrong, but he is also leaving out a lot of context. Chandler has been fighting nothing but elite opponents the whole time.

Dawson has been beating middling opponents and got absolutely destroyed by a journeyman.

 

[TITS]

The last time Chandler beat a ranked opponent Jessica Eye, Carlos Condit and Nicco Montano were still in the UFC.

WTF does that have to do with anything?