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Ken Shamrock has some great “matches” with The Rock back in the late 90s so there’s some ties there.
Lol this brings back memories.
Yep. Ken has a made an unnecessary point about most fighters, as he was referencing the BMF. Oh, but he fails there too as I’d view Mas’ years of street brawls way more “bad ass” then what Ken describes.Yea totally has a fucking point. Look at spoiled Jorge Masvidal who never grew up fighting in backyards. Just was born and became a famous MMA fighter without having to work hard. Ken is a genius for this take.
"BMF" has a different meaning if you go to bangbros dot com.![]()
“It’s funny to hear these guys talk about toughness and being tough and being bad,” Shamrock told Ariel Helwani of ESPN recently. “It’s like, man, if they only knew what went through in those beginning days, with no training, there was no map of how to train. There were guys that would go to the park and get in fights with people in order to get training, real training in. You’ve seen a lot of guys that would just do a road tour. They’d drive from one end of California to the other end and they would stop at different places and do fights on these different promotions in the beginning days when there was promotions everywhere. They would drive across country just hitting every stop and fighting at them, just to get the training in.”
“There was no map,” Shamrock said. “There was no way of real training. Obviously, early on we were able to develop a way to do that but for most guys you used to hear stories like that all the time about how guys would go to the park and fight or they’d take fights anywhere just so they can actually get in and get a fight somewhere where they really knew what they were doing because back in the day when I was over in Japan, before they even started the UFC, I couldn’t get anybody to train with me. I would go into karate schools and boxing schools, they were striking and you’d take them down and they’d be like ‘No, what are you talking about’ or I’d get a wrestler and say ‘Shoot on me, I’m not gonna knock you out but I’m gonna punch you.’ There was nobody to do that so I had to open a gym and slowly start training people.
“So for them to start talking about being a Bad MF, I just kinda laugh and go, oh my gosh, you guys are wearing four-ounce gloves, you fight one time a night, every six months to a year. Really? [Laughs] Come on.”
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they also didn't train half as hard as guys do today day in day out. the majority were not professional fighters. they occasionally fought professionally.True
Ken is right thou
There were some seriously bad motherfuckers in those early days who gave no fucks
lol at thinking today's professional fighters are bitch made....The "What's considered tough" bar has moved and today's generation is bitch made. In other news, water is wet and the titanic sunk.
it is unofficial.Not sure Ken should be saying anything but that whole BMF belt thing was an absolute embarrassment. Make it unofficial or whatever but dont go making a belt
The image of the sport is definitely stale but it's making money for the company.
None of that I care about as I still see great fights on the regular. Take what you want from it....I don't even talk to new fans in person about fights...not even trying to be elitist about it but I always enjoyed nhb and mma for me, not for the perception others had of it.
The BMF title is a stupid gimmick, he's right about that. Jorge is a bad motherfucker, though. No question there.
It's a tragedy Saku was shafted financially. If I knew he was getting peanuts to fight all these insane matchups i'd have totally understood him walking away. If theres one dude on the planet who put in the work and had the balls to have a long insane career and retire with some cash it was saku.Those guys used to fight openweight, several times a night, with rules which allowed kicks and stomps to the head of a downed opponent. Pride was the same. Now we have guys like McGregor and Till who will cut down two weight divisions to fight some guy smaller than them once or twice a year, and they'll brag about having that size advantage.
It's not just about Masvidal and Diaz. The whole sport is kiddie-friendly at this point.
And the "ganster" stuff is bullshit anyway. Sakuraba was much more of a "BMF" than these guys can ever claim to be and he had none of that bravado.