Elections Kamala Harris for POTUS

Helden said:
Once maga cancer fades away, the country will be back to normal.

We just have one last orange tumor left to cut out and flush down the toilet
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Are you really this stupid to believe that.

After all the shit that has happened somene like Harris is going to " bring us together " if she somehow get the office.
 
mkess101 said:
It's early, but it damn sure looks like all the focus on Biden's decline is backfiring a bit on the R's. We basically had most Dems either in denial or that accepted Joe wasn't fit and covered for him until it was just too obvious and they couldn't anymore.
But man, that's the thing: once they all came out and essentially admitted it and put enough pressure on Joe to withdraw, their supporters (and even some undecideds) have seemed to RUSH the fuck back into the fray with renewed vigor. Money coming in, etc.
The Dems getting Joe off the ticket is basically their apology to their base and telling them "we hear you, he's too old was declining...took us awhile but we get it."

And it might not matter that they have replaced him at the top of the ticket with a very unlikeable and annoying candidate that seems to have no clue about certain parts of the job. She's gonna start with plenty of electoral votes by default. And given that she's against a guy who's hated by a LOT of people and who has shown he motivates people to vote against him no matter the opponent, (and Trump has since also been convicted of crimes)...it could be very interesting in November.

If you'd have told me a couple weeks ago it was Trump vs Harris I'd have said it would be an easy win for Trump. But I'm now not so sure at all. Even an objectively poor candidate like Kamala has their party excited and just happy it's not the ghost of Biden.
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They are definitely getting a bump just getting rid of Biden. Let's see how long it last as she gets more and more time out in the public. She is running on the same policies as Biden so there is no change there. Then she has her own baggage she brings with her.
 
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mkess101 said:
It's early, but it damn sure looks like all the focus on Biden's decline is backfiring a bit on the R's. We basically had most Dems either in denial or that accepted Joe wasn't fit and covered for him until it was just too obvious and they couldn't anymore.
But man, that's the thing: once they all came out and essentially admitted it and put enough pressure on Joe to withdraw, their supporters (and even some undecideds) have seemed to RUSH the fuck back into the fray with renewed vigor. Money coming in, etc.
The Dems getting Joe off the ticket is basically their apology to their base and telling them "we hear you, he's too old was declining...took us awhile but we get it."

And it might not matter that they have replaced him at the top of the ticket with a very unlikeable and annoying candidate that seems to have no clue about certain parts of the job. She's gonna start with plenty of electoral votes by default. And given that she's against a guy who's hated by a LOT of people and who has shown he motivates people to vote against him no matter the opponent, (and Trump has since also been convicted of crimes)...it could be very interesting in November.

If you'd have told me a couple weeks ago it was Trump vs Harris I'd have said it would be an easy win for Trump. But I'm now not so sure at all. Even an objectively poor candidate like Kamala has their party excited and just happy it's not the ghost of Biden.
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She absolutely could win. She's got some hurdles.
1) She didn't win a primary. Democracy is a sham, we all knew that before this, but the issue is here
2) She's talking about all the things that they're going to do like she hasn't already been in the white house for four years. Anyone who stops to think about this for more than five seconds will have questions
3) She imprisoned black men on bullshit weed charges and kept them imprisoned beyond their sentences for cheap labor. So an actual slaver. She also obscured evidence that would have overturned those convictions.

Btw this won't matter to Dems the same way Trump's charges don't matter to Reps. Optics are the only thing that matter, and those optics matter only to the people at or near the center.
 
mkess101 said:
It's early, but it damn sure looks like all the focus on Biden's decline is backfiring a bit on the R's. We basically had most Dems either in denial or that accepted Joe wasn't fit and covered for him until it was just too obvious and they couldn't anymore.
But man, that's the thing: once they all came out and essentially admitted it and put enough pressure on Joe to withdraw, their supporters (and even some undecideds) have seemed to RUSH the fuck back into the fray with renewed vigor. Money coming in, etc.
The Dems getting Joe off the ticket is basically their apology to their base and telling them "we hear you, he's too old was declining...took us awhile but we get it."

And it might not matter that they have replaced him at the top of the ticket with a very unlikeable and annoying candidate that seems to have no clue about certain parts of the job. She's gonna start with plenty of electoral votes by default. And given that she's against a guy who's hated by a LOT of people and who has shown he motivates people to vote against him no matter the opponent, (and Trump has since also been convicted of crimes)...it could be very interesting in November.

If you'd have told me a couple weeks ago it was Trump vs Harris I'd have said it would be an easy win for Trump. But I'm now not so sure at all. Even an objectively poor candidate like Kamala has their party excited and just happy it's not the ghost of Biden.
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who is we?
 
oldshadow said:
They are definitely getting a bump just getting rid of Biden. Let's see how long it last as she gets more and more time out in the public. She is running on the same policies as Biden so there is no change there. Then she has her own baggage she brings with her.
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Yeah it's unpredictable and there's a lot of time. And she can't hide, and isn't likeable at all. Still, she's going against the most polarizing politician arguably in US History and money doesn’t look like it's gonna be a problem. And there are plenty who will still be happy 4 months from now that it's simply not Biden looking like the crypt keeper...
 
WhiteMousse said:
She absolutely could win. She's got some hurdles.
1) She didn't win a primary. Democracy is a sham, we all knew that before this, but the issue is here
2) She's talking about all the things that they're going to do like she hasn't already been in the white house for four years. Anyone who stops to think about this for more than five seconds will have questions
3) She imprisoned black men on bullshit weed charges and kept them imprisoned beyond their sentences for cheap labor. So an actual slaver. She also obscured evidence that would have overturned those convictions.

Btw this won't matter to Dems the same way Trump's charges don't matter to Reps. Optics are the only thing that matter, and those optics matter only to the people at or near the center.
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right now we have the typical blitz of fake news stories about how amazing Harris is and how everyone is supporting her. Give it a week.
 
mkess101 said:
Yeah it's unpredictable and there's a lot of time. And she can't hide, and isn't likeable at all. Still, she's going against the most polarizing politician arguably in US History and money doesn’t look like it's gonna be a problem. And there are plenty who will still be happy 4 months from now that it's simply not Biden looking like the crypt keeper...
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Do you know anyone who has now decided to vote for Harris, that was not going to vote for Biden, even after the dementia became public knowledge?
 
Pharenheit said:
Trump perhaps has screws loose but you democrats hate him because he is the most transparent person ever in office and not afraid to tell it like it is. Keep standing on your weak legs though and hanging on to your trivialities
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Yeah, I'm sure you're right and it has nothing to do with the fraud or rape or attempted coup or any of the other heinous shit the Orange Turd has done.
 
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maximus__ said:
I have to respect her position on the impeachment to be honest. I took it as her basically saying"Trump is crooked, but this impeachment is about weaponizing the democratic process". She agrees Trump is a crook, but the reasons for that impeachment weren't just.

In terms of the $15 wage bill, could her way of voting be viewed as a way to say she supports the general idea, but not that specific bill. Not perfect, but better than voting yes just because. That bill was initially linked into covid funding, before being removed and not covering wide groups of people like farm hands etc. They basically put a 15$ minimum wage iun place only for big business and food servers, whilst ignoring massive groups of the population(who historically don't vote left).

Her attacks on Kamala were hilarious. No idea on Pete. I am not American so have to follow things pretty hard to be up to date.

Again, not American. Were I am we have medicare, gun laws, abortion etc. Just an outsider looking in and she seems like a good middle of the ground politician to steal some right leaning voters, that don't want Trump in the whitehouse again.
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I get where you’re coming from. Gerald Ford once half-joked that an impeachable offense is whatever the House of Representatives says it is, and he’s not totally wrong. The Constitution gives a few broad categories of offenses only, and it’s common for both GOP and Dems to disagree on what’s impeachable. So yeah, the process can be weaponized to a degree. I think if Tulsi felt it was being weaponized, she should have the courage and conviction to vote “No” and say why.

As an example of a weaponized process, I’d point to the current impeachment inquiry of Joe Biden. This thing has been going on for like 16 months, they’ve found no real wrongdoing, have no real idea what exactly they’re looking for, and they’re not even holding regular hearings. They just schedule a hearing anytime they need some political cover, and engage in this impeachment theater. Republicans have gotten absolutely owned in some of those hearings, but you’d never know it by reading the House reports, or watching conservative media. It’s just kind of a circus.

Islam Imamate said:
The 2nd impeachment was far more egregious to me. Only 17 Republicans between the House and Senate voted in favor, the rest put party over country.
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I agree the 2nd impeachment was far worse. And the Senate actually tried to dismiss the charges without holding a trial, looking at any evidence, or hearing from a single witness, remember that?? Fucking crazy. I wish I could see the future to find out if we ever successfully convict a POTUS on impeachment articles, and what it finally was. If what Trump did isn’t impeachable conduct, I can’t imagine what is.
 
oldshadow said:
Yep sounds like he is losing his shit because anyone would question this DEI hire.
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I don't understand what people are suggesting when they call Harris a "DEI hire"...I know you're pointing out she's not white, but what is the other point being made here?
 
cottagecheesefan said:
Do you know anyone who has now decided to vote for Harris, that was not going to vote for Biden, even after the dementia became public knowledge?
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Yeah a few people. Mind you, they weren't gonna vote Trump either. Outside of one, they were also in the "we need someone other than geriatric white guys" camp. They're younger coworkers that were gonna either not vote at all as a protest or write someone in. They're left leaning for sure, and I think Biden's decline was more the nudge they needed than the driving force of "going rogue".

To be fair, this is what they're saying. Push comes to shove, maybe they'd have still voted for Joe even in the shape he's in? Impossible to know, I'm just taking them at their word.
 
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