Elections Kamala Harris for POTUS

[BFoe]

I would have preferred that he did, but they put a whole group of candidates on the stage for the world to watch who took turns bad mouthing Trump so if anything he did him self a disservice. He had to essentially debate Nicky Haley regularly in the public and they actually had a primary where voters got to vote on these options. That is NOT what the the DNC did, not even close. You can't sit there and pretend like the DNC is having legitimate primaries. Trump faced criticism from opposing candidates and addressed it in public, Kamala wasn't even a candidate. There was ZERO public scrutiny for Kamala while Trump was constantly under opposition attacks.

Meh.
Firstly, Trump didn’t “essentially” debate Nikki Haley. Giving speeches at rallies is not debating, and history is full of people who were polling well until they talked at a debate, or an opponent performed well at a debate, so Trump’s “I’m polling so well I don’t need to debate anyone” excuse is pure trash.

Every year, we have states that don’t have primaries. This past year, only 15% of registered republicans were able to participate in the Iowa caucus. Furthermore, basically every year, a nominee is locked down before thousands or even millions of voters get to vote. It was that way in my state for both the Dem and GOP primaries this year, it was that way in my state in 2020 too. This year, Delaware canceled primaries altogether because the whole thing was over before anyone there voted.

On top of all that, Biden is not running. It’s not like he’s campaigning and somebody stole the nomination. He dropped out altogether. This has happened before, there are processes for this, and those are being followed. This whole “Dems are subverting democracy” argument is just nonsense from the GOP, trying to muddy the waters and district from their own election crimes. It’s a silly argument.

 

[cincymma79]

 

[Snubnoze707]

On top of all that, Biden is not running. It’s not like he’s campaigning and somebody stole the nomination. He dropped out altogether. This has happened before, there are processes for this, and those are being followed. This whole “Dems are subverting democracy” argument is just nonsense from the GOP, trying to muddy the waters and district from their own election crimes. It’s a silly argument.

I'm not "from the GOP"...

That's the whole point, Biden ISN'T running, and they knew that was going to be the case the whole time. This was bait and switch. People like RFK Jr. were literally forced out of the party in order to run.

The DNC are the ones constantly stating that "Democracy is on the ballot" while they have rigged primaries one after the other. I don't see you addressing the past two primaries where they routed Bernie Sanders.

If you think the DNC really gives a shit about democracy then I have a "democracy" in Ukraine to sell you...

 

[Rational Poster]

I'm not "from the GOP"...

That's the whole point, Biden ISN'T running, and they knew that was going to be the case the whole time. This was bait and switch. People like RFK Jr. were literally forced out of the party in order to run.

The DNC are the ones constantly stating that "Democracy is on the ballot" while they have rigged primaries one after the other. I don't see you addressing the past two primaries where they routed Bernie Sanders.

If you think the DNC really gives a shit about democracy then I have a "democracy" in Ukraine to sell you...

People like RFK

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Obama was "probably not even a citizen" according to the same idiot racists who are going after Harris now. Maybe let it develop.

what has been Kamala's greatest accomplishment?

 

[marvinparsons]

That makes zero sense. You evaluate Kamala for who she is. Trump has nothing to do with her character and her lack of conviction. You're usually level headed but you're making no sense here. I hope you aren't catching a case of TDS.

“If I’m elected president, my Cabinet, my administration will look like the country, and I commit that I will, in fact, appoint a, pick a woman to be vice president,” Biden said at the CNN-Univision debate in Washington, DC.

Yes I know what proof means and that statement proves that he was specifically looking to hire a female, which means he was not looking to hire based on merit, but based on gender. The fact that you have no retort here says everything. She's a DEI hire, plain and simple.

It's fairly rare the VP is picked solely on merit in terms of being a good President.

Trump picked Pence to shore up white evangelicals, who would rightly view him as the antichrist if they judged Trump based on his actions/religiosity. Not because Pence would be the best President.

Vance doesn't get the VP role if he's from California.

H Clinton picked a male because she needed a white guy in a swing state.

Obama was young/black, so picked an old white dude.

Palin was picked to contrast with McCain (ooops).

And on and on.

Was Tim Kaine or Joe Biden as VP a DEI hire?

To me that's more reason not to put much stock in someone having been VP. It's a shame Kamala gets the nomination based on being VP as the qualities that make you a good VP candidate don't translate to a general election.

It's pretty much impossible to untangle race/gender from anything in the US. Unfortunately.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

I'm not "from the GOP"...

That's the whole point, Biden ISN'T running, and they knew that was going to be the case the whole time. This was bait and switch. People like RFK Jr. were literally forced out of the party in order to run.

The DNC are the ones constantly stating that "Democracy is on the ballot" while they have rigged primaries one after the other. I don't see you addressing the past two primaries where they routed Bernie Sanders.

If you think the DNC really gives a shit about democracy then I have a "democracy" in Ukraine to sell you...

Republicans are just mad that RFK is going to steal 3rd party votes from Trump as a crazy conspiracy theory candidate and anti Vaxxer looney toon.

 

[marvinparsons]

They were too focused on Sleepy Joe and are now having to do a 180º. It's not an easy task. Give them time. And she hasn't started her campaign yet, it's hard to counterattack when you don't know what's coming at you.

It's a matter of what they can come up with that will stick to her. Right now they don't have a little Marco or sleepy Joe type insult. She isn't actually that left wing or communist. She's not stupid. She's kind of a nothing entity with no hyper fixed views, but Trump calling someone a hypocrite is rich, even for him. I guess they'll go with the radical left wing DEI banged Willie Brown in 1991 angle, but I'm no sure how well that's going to stick.

 

[AfroBanana]

I'm willing to bet she'll do better than Trump or Biden (in 2020).

"Status quo" is very vague and no, if averaging against Obama, she won't beat those numbers.

She’s polling worse with independent women, young voters and black and Latino males (where Trump is ahead by historical margins). I’m not saying this as a Trump supporter. I’m saying this as a democrat objectively looking at data. I’m doubting she will do better in these demographics than Biden in 2020 or Obama x2 or what democrats usually pull there. This is a tough task and someone who did very poorly in the primaries and has a terrible approval rating. I’m just skeptical with this choice.

 

[filthybliss]

lol what? I said she’s more racially ambiguous, acts VERY WHITE and isn’t what most black people see in themselves. She doesn’t resonate with a lot of the identity they’re selling her on. I’m not a republican. She’s more a snooty white progressives dream.

Shit, even BLM is questioning her validity as a candidate. Black Twitter, social media and black people in general aren’t showing the same enthusiasm as the white progressives and elites. I been through Obama with a big black family and Kamala isn’t getting anyone excited and many don’t see her as very black. But sure like anything else it’s Nazi and incels……..

Since when do cuckservatives care about BLM (org founded by a grifty white progressive)or “black twitter”?

How can you act a skin color?

Harris seems to garnering the support of other movements so there’s that.

Major Asian, Black, Latino groups come out in support of a Harris presidency

Major groups representing voters of color have come out in support of Kamala Harris.

abcnews.go.com

 

[mkess101]

There's no comparison because Trump tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power and overturn a free and fair election and in the wake of that his entire party closed ranks behind him to shield him from accountability.

Of course unlike Trump himself someone like Biden would never dare try to steal an election like Trump did so yeah, if Americans are dumb enough to vote Trump back into office well that's that.

My question was more if we accept "Well this is how it's going, so this is how it is" in a general sense. Regardless of whos doing what.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

what has been Kamala's greatest accomplishment?

Let's see...

She hasnt been indicted on stealing a bunch classified documents

Hasn't been found liable for sexual abuse in civil court

Hasn't ever had any charities shut down

Hasn't ever committed tax fraud

Served as VP, a Senator, Attorney general and worked as prosecutor

Hasn't mentioned anything about purifying bloodlines, hasn't called white supremacists good people, didn't support any hang Mike pence shenanigans, hasn't tried to overthrow any elections, isn't 78 years old with a dogfood brain, can properly pronounce rebuttal, she knows what NATO is, hasn't been caught bragging about sexual assault by entertainment tonight, doesn't want to sunset social security, didn't get cucked by FBI agents, didn't hang out with Epstein, or walk in on any naked teen USA contestants

Seems alright to me.

You guys are trying hard to figure out why the Democrats won't vote for Kamala. Trying to rationalize how some of this stuff is going to play out.

We all saw Trump's speech yesterday and he couldn't really think of much to attack Kamala with besides the border lol. He rambled on and on for probably 5+ minutes about his crowd sizes again because his material was dry.

Going to be interesting to see how Trump tries to attack a candidate who's not a vegetable. So far he's 0/1 and came across pretty poorly.

JD Vance also 0/1 after everyone watched his mountain dew joke get no reaction as he laughed at his own joke. Since Biden dropped out, Vance and Trump have started oozing that Ron Desantis tiny dick energy.

 

[spamking]

Sheesh. The whining and repeating of the same old excuses and accusations is already getting old.

November can't get here fast enough.

 

[AfroBanana]

Since when do cuckservatives care about BLM? How can you act a skin color?

First of all who cares about conservatives. This is discourse across the spectrum.

Second of all Kamala and Cory Booker got wiped last time and had weak black support. Why? Because black people don’t see themselves in them they’re just told they’re “black candidates”. They tend to support those they see representation in and this little bit of this little bit of that candidates aren’t a sell.

They went with an old white guy who was connected to Obama over them and it wasn’t even close. You’re way too emotional. You really think the average black voter find Kamala relatable? or sees her as a viable African American candidate? You think they would remind you every 5 seconds Michelle Obama is black like they do Kamala? Is a reason for that.

 

[filthybliss]

First of all who cares about conservatives. This is discourse across the spectrum.

Second of all Kamala and Cory Booker got wiped last time and had weak black support. Why? Because black people don’t see themselves in them they’re just told they’re “black candidates”. They tend to support those they see representation in and this little bit of this little hit of that candidates aren’t a sell. They went with an old white guy wii was connected to Obama over them and it wasn’t even close. You’re way too emotional.

How do you act a skin color though? You didn’t really answer that question.

It’s still too early to tell how things will pan out but I’m pretty confident that she will pull majority of the support from the groups that you mentioned in contrast to trump similar to how Biden did. People kept chiming how his stupid statement, “you ain’t black if you don’t vote for me” was the nail in the coffin for black voters but that was not the case.

Also my bad for being a dick, you seem to actually want a dialogue….

 

[Fergelmince]

Certainly looks like how it's working now, don't it.

You don't seem to understand things. In what country do you live?

 

[filthybliss]

what has been Kamala's greatest accomplishment?

not being a perverted felon

 

[filthybliss]

You don't seem to understand things. In what country do you live?

United States of Murrica

 

[AfroBanana]

How do you act a skin color though? You didn’t really answer that question.

It’s still too early to tell how things will pan out but I’m pretty confident that she will pull majority of the support from the groups that you mentioned in contrast to trump. Also my bad for being a dick, you seem to actually want a dialogue….

It’s fairly simple. You don’t present yourself like a goofy white women. Kamala is white washed af and her appearance as I stated before is fairly ambiguous racially. She doesn’t know how to speak to that community and shares little culturally. Black voters like candidates that tend do be more grounded in black things culturally. It’s clear that all her attempts are awkward and aren’t organic. She comes across like a pandering white lady. “I listen to Tupac and smoke weed I'm in the streets”. Nobody is buying that she doesn’t flow naturally. Black voters aren’t flocking to her for a reason and never have been. She’s like the perfect soft candidate for white people to feel good about because she checks all these boxes but doesn’t really do a solid job representing any of them.

 

[filthybliss]

I'm not "from the GOP"...

That's the whole point, Biden ISN'T running, and they knew that was going to be the case the whole time. This was bait and switch. People like RFK Jr. were literally forced out of the party in order to run.

The DNC are the ones constantly stating that "Democracy is on the ballot" while they have rigged primaries one after the other. I don't see you addressing the past two primaries where they routed Bernie Sanders.

If you think the DNC really gives a shit about democracy then I have a "democracy" in Ukraine to sell you...

Yeah Russia is super democratic, you should move there since you like the way that the Poots running things there.