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Elections Kamala Harris for POTUS

ShadowRun said:
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Scerpi said:
So you're 100% sure the person who fills out a mailed in ballot is the same as the name on the ballot?

lol...

It's impossible to prove. It's an inherently flawed system open for massive fraud.
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Don’t be silly. If what you’re claiming happened on any significant level, it would immediately become apparent when the voters went to vote and were told they already voted. No way is that happening in any significant way, and certainly not across multiple states. It’s ridiculous.
 
Barteh said:
Not a good look when you're afraid when a state makes their election a little bit more secure.

Same day in-person voting (exceptions will be allowed but nothing widespread)
Voter ID
Hand counting
(Option: Machine counting ALONGSIDE the hand counting to back it up)

Any state (or country for that matter) who doesn't have this is compromised. Everybody with half a brain knows this.
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Alright. For IDs, you need it on file to register to vote in the first place.

Moreover, every polling location has a designated list of people registered to vote in that location. So if you show up, give a random name and it's not on that list they will guide you to a provisional ballot. The provisional ballot cross checks name, address and voter registration logs. If you give a name of someone that has already voted under that name then they will ask for further ID such as voter registration card or affirmation of address. If voting IDs were installed, you find a way to claim that people got through because they made multiple photo IDs with a different name....

Ballot Harvesting is fairly vague. Are you opposed to absentee voting? The system is designed to tag a single ballot for each voter. On the rare occasion that a second ballot comes in for the same registered voter, the system detects it automatically so there is that.

Overall, I think the system is fairly sound. I am not opposed to additional requirements in the process. But, people will find something new to complain about if the election does not fall in their favor.
 
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ShadowRun said:
You have too much emotions for meme’s, maybe you need a break from the internet Sherbro
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Maybe you need to take a break long enough to learn how apostrophes and commas work, Sherbro.
 
Scerpi said:
So you're 100% sure the person who fills out a mailed in ballot is the same as the name on the ballot?

lol...

It's impossible to prove. It's an inherently flawed system open for massive fraud.
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You got evidence of this happening "bigly"? The only reason that the GOP is giving you these talking points is because they thrive off low voter participation.
 
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Strychnine said:
The man is a walking, talking, self-own.

SMH.
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Well, holy fuck it should not even be necessary. What's the difference b/t $3 and $4/doz for each individual egg?

Each egg goes from 25 cents to 33 cents. Is that difference making or breaking even a low income family?
 
BFoe said:
Deal:

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Fringe outlier shit? Sure... it happens to both sides. Obama had a lot of Nazis and White Supremacists too.... strange but true.

www.cbsnews.com

White Supremacists See Hope In Obama Win

First Black President Would Trigger Backlash And Jar Whites Into Action, They Say
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But, having the IRS endorse you as a huge group... that's real bad compared to a few on off scumbags.
 
filthybliss said:
Alright. For IDs, you need it on file to register to vote in the first place.

Moreover, every polling location has a designated list of people registered to vote in that location. So if you show up, give a random name and it's not on that list they will guide to a provisional ballot. The provisional ballot cross checks name, address and voter registration logs. If you give a name of someone that has already voted under that name then they will ask for further ID such as voter registration card or affirmation of address. If voting IDs were installed, you find a way to claim that people got through because they made multiple photo IDs with a different name....

Ballot Harvesting is fairly vague. Are you opposed to absentee voting? The system is designed to tag a single ballot for each voter. On the rare occasion that a second ballot comes in for the same registered voter, the system detects it automatically so there is that.

Overall, I think the system is fairly sound. I am not opposed to additional requirements in the process. But, people will find something new to complain about if the election does not fall in their favor.
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Well said. Just to add, yeah, of course most of us would be fine with rolling out an official voter ID. The problem is, this never comes up for a vote until weeks before an election. That’s because Republicans aren’t trying to make it more secure, they’re trying to suppress votes.
 
filthybliss said:
Alright. For IDs, you need it on file to register to vote in the first place.

Moreover, every polling location has a designated list of people registered to vote in that location. So if you show up, give a random name and it's not on that list they will guide you to a provisional ballot. The provisional ballot cross checks name, address and voter registration logs. If you give a name of someone that has already voted under that name then they will ask for further ID such as voter registration card or affirmation of address. If voting IDs were installed, you find a way to claim that people got through because they made multiple photo IDs with a different name....

Ballot Harvesting is fairly vague. Are you opposed to absentee voting? The system is designed to tag a single ballot for each voter. On the rare occasion that a second ballot comes in for the same registered voter, the system detects it automatically so there is that.

Overall, I think the system is fairly sound. I am not opposed to additional requirements in the process. But, people will find something new to complain about if the election does not fall in their favor.
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I don't disagree with anything you just said but I'm not sure "fairly sound" is what you want to aim for when it comes to election security.

Ballot harvesting could be many things. From somebody filling in their mum's ballot because she's not gonna vote anyway, to somebody going to a nursery home and collecting ballots and filling them in. I'm not 100% opposed to all absentee voting, but I think it should be the exception not the rule. If you're in your state on election day and physically able you should go out to vote.

IDs is simply a no brainer, I don't think speculation about people who might keep complaining is relevant at all.

The machines are a completely different issue altogether. Sure, you can argue that no solid evidence has been found of rigged machines, but the risk and results of one single breach from just 1 bad actor are enormous. I don't think it's worth the risk.

I feel like you're approaching this entire thing from a perspective where many republicans bring up this issue in bad faith, so you're inclined to take that into account when discussing the topic. It should be pretty simple, the elections can be made more secure, so they should be made more secure.
 
sickc0d3r said:
Well said. Just to add, yeah, of course most of us would be fine with rolling out an official voter ID. The problem is, this never comes up for a vote until weeks before an election. That’s because Republicans aren’t trying to make it more secure, they’re trying to suppress votes.
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Didn't they bring some kind of election security bill in front of congress a couple of months ago that the dems shot down?
 
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