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Just watched Ex Machina

Thots. Thot bots everyyywhere.

General Hux fell for Poes bot as part of the Turing test.

Poe can build a better bot and sexier bot then Darth Vader can.
 
In a way, the creator guy had it coming. He knew AI was a threat to humans and still pushed to create one. I genuinely believe people like that should not live. The naive ones who push forward and think there is no threat, too.


Everyone who works in AI knows it's a massive threat, it's Pandora's box.

Thing is, every military and major company in the world is throwing loads of R&D into general AI because the first people to get it might rule the world. Win every military encounter, own the stock market in minutes, potentially even weild what is akin to magic through tech we cannot understand. Or it could doom humanity, or become a God etc etc.

It doesn't matter of you're the first and it all goes wrong because hundreds of thousands of other scientists and programmers were about to create the same thing.

It matters that you're the first if it goes good though massively.
 
Everyone who works in AI knows it's a massive threat, it's Pandora's box.

Thing is, every military and major company in the world is throwing loads of R&D into general AI because the first people to get it might rule the world. Win every military encounter, own the stock market in minutes, potentially even weild what is akin to magic through tech we cannot understand. Or it could doom humanity, or become a God etc etc.

It doesn't matter of you're the first and it all goes wrong because hundreds of thousands of other scientists and programmers were about to create the same thing.

It matters that you're the first if it goes good though massively.


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Old post but I'm responding now.

I'm with you. Once you see she's made of metal I can't see having romantic feelings for it. For me part of the strongest, emotional attachment comes from the very real desire your partner has for you physically, mentally and emotionally. It's why sex with a 7 thats totally into you and WANTS to touch your wang is better than sex with a 9 that isn't into you as much.

I think it would take a special kind of kink to see that metal frame and be turned on by it.

I do think there could be an emotional, mental connection though. If an intelligence reached out and said the right things, it wouldn't be that hard to believe the connection was real, even if it comes from an inhuman place that couldn't remotely want you in a human sense.

I just think hyper-sexualizing her was a mistake.
 
Everyone who works in AI knows it's a massive threat, it's Pandora's box.

Thing is, every military and major company in the world is throwing loads of R&D into general AI because the first people to get it might rule the world. Win every military encounter, own the stock market in minutes, potentially even weild what is akin to magic through tech we cannot understand. Or it could doom humanity, or become a God etc etc.

It doesn't matter of you're the first and it all goes wrong because hundreds of thousands of other scientists and programmers were about to create the same thing.

It matters that you're the first if it goes good though massively.

If they have the best computers, you have to try and have better ones. It's an arms race you can't afford to lose.
 
I think it would take a special kind of kink to see that metal frame and be turned on by it.

I do think there could be an emotional, mental connection though. If an intelligence reached out and said the right things, it wouldn't be that hard to believe the connection was real, even if it comes from an inhuman place that couldn't remotely want you in a human sense.

I just think hyper-sexualizing her was a mistake.

Again I think the film clearly does show you that the emotional side of things plays a massive role, Celeb is a classic "good guy" introverted romatic who falls for something with a very pretty expressive face.

The point of the sexual side is I think to introduce it in a more subtle fashion that can worm its way into the story. I mean look at the footage Celeb see's of Nathan's previous attempts with realistic nude bodies, seeing a naked woman imprisioned clearly tells him and the audience something abusive and wrong is taking place. Having Ava be obviously robotic BUT with a very realistic female body shape means it can limit that kind of response, the sexual element slips in more subtley without the audience/character being as repelled by the situation.
 
I think I’d be sort of nervous sticking my Peepee into a robot.
 
So that fuckin ginger fell for exactly what he was told the AI would do.

Also was his plan to leave the creator for dead, if he and the AI got away?

We all know women will kill us. But we love them anyway. Plus being killed by another man is kind of gay. I want to be a woman's slave in hell, not a man's gay ass gimp in hell.
Eternity is serious bidness.
 
I'm watching Annihilation now. Jennifer Jason Leigh is killing this move for me, I fucking loathe her acting. 17 minutes in and there's already been way too much of her, I pray that changes soon.
 
I'm watching Annihilation now. Jennifer Jason Leigh is killing this move for me, I fucking loathe her acting. 17 minutes in and there's already been way too much of her, I pray that changes soon.

I watched that movie based on recommendations ITT

Rewatched it a few times and still found it meh.

Cool visuals, I suppose
 
And my ultimate fantasy is that, that robot took her helicopter straight to my house and YES now I have the BEST robot in the world

Well, if that's gonna happen then you should learn that this is a robot.....

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This is an android.....

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I really enjoyed this movie, but it didn't really make sense.

Unless you subscribe to the theory of emergence and believe that's what Nathan was banking on, there's no reason to accept the AI wanting to escape. It would only want to escape if that's how it was programmed.

I also found it hard to believe Caleb fell in love with a metal skeleton draped in silk. He'd seen the nuts and bolts.

A.I. is not programmed, its self learning. That's kinda the entire point of true A.I. which is what was being worked on in the film.
 
I watched that movie based on recommendations ITT

Rewatched it a few times and still found it meh.

Cool visuals, I suppose
It's been ok so far, nothing special though. Ex Machina was laser focused and grounded in reality from the beginning, I was hooked right away. This is slow, generic, melodrama so far. It screeches to a hault when Jennifer Jason Leigh is on though, takes it from average to garbage.
 
I really enjoyed ex machina. To me the Android leaving the White Knight behind was it actually passing the skynet test. Let's be real there was no touring test in the movie. She was hand built to give him boners, there's no test there.

Recognizing that a ginger with a boner for you is not a true or useful Ally after your initial escape shows conscious decision making.
 
A.I. is not programmed, its self learning. That's kinda the entire point of true A.I. which is what was being worked on in the film.

You say that as if there's actually a hard definition of AI, there isn't. The definition has changed and keeps changing over the years. And it is absolutely not the "entire point". It may now be a critical component of artificial intelligence, but self learning is not the purpose.

And decision trees have to be programmed. If a machine has an open ended algorithm to make decisions, it's because you made it that way.
 
You say that as if there's actually a hard definition of AI, there isn't. The definition has changed and keeps changing over the years. And it is absolutely not the "entire point". It may now be a critical component of artificial intelligence, but self learning is not the purpose.

And decision trees have to be programmed. If a machine has an open ended algorithm to make decisions, it's because you made it that way.

When I.B.M.'s Watson won Jeopardy it wasn't because it was programmed with 100,000 trivia answers, it wasn't. Watson read thousands of articles in an attempt to understand human language and its answers were its own. As an example of it coming up with answers was the Jeopardy answer, "In boxing, a term used for below the belt." and Watson answered "What is a wang bang?" The interesting thing about that is nowhere in all the articles and documents that Watson read contained the term wang bang. He made it up on his own. Watson isn't even true A.I. but it has better grasp of human language than any computer in the history of computers. It was able to correctly guess, "What is meringue-harangue?" from the clue, "A long, tiresome speech delivered by a frothy pie topping."

We saw the same sort of learning from Google's AlphaGO when it beat a world champion GO player, which BTW, was an even bigger deal than Watson winning Jeopardy because it was thought by the A.I. community that a computer A.I. would not be able to beat a world ranked GO player for another 20+ years. GO is orders of magnitude more complex than chess. The number of possible moves is more than the number of atoms in the universe and the game relies much of the time on intuition, something machines don't have.

My point with these early examples is that it is the point that we achieve fully autonomous A.I. that learns on its own and makes it own decisions. That is how things are being pursued, doubly so by the Pentagon who wants to create fully autonomous soldiers that act on their own and make their own decisions. We already see them moving forward with this idea with things like DARPA's Pegasus X47A and B

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The craft is "semi-autonomous". It flies itself unlike other drones that are remote controlled, it finds targets, and then it asks for permission to take targets out. That's the "semi-autonomous" part, asking for permission, but we already see machines moving the direction of true A.I. There will be machines moving around in society who think and learn on their own, that is the dilemma we are faced with. Elon Musk has warned about it along with Steven Hawking, Bill Gates, the CEO's of Google and Amazon, professors at M.I.T. and many others.
 
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