Jones only offered 12mil guaranteed?

Tweak896 said:
maybe 12M + PPV split. But really thinking about it, how much could the fight really sell? I'm thinking maybe 1M-1.5M at most.
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Well, UFC would be getting PPV, gate, and also whatever split with ESPN, plus whatever income I'm not aware of. Gate would probably be 6-8 million alone.
 
Contrary to what a lot of posters on here say, this is a very winnable fight for Jones. The big question is, where is he at physically, has he lost several steps?

Another possibility is that the UFC could be manufacturing this drama to get high Netflix views? Maybe the first fight on Netflix could be Jones vs Aspinall.
 
Bwagster said:
Contrary to what a lot of posters on here say, this is a very winnable fight for Jones. The big question is, where is he at physically, has he lost several steps?
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He had a massive shoulder injury that put him out for a year. On top of being 38, and essentially a full MMA career spanning over 15 years, I'd say it's not looking very good.
 
Aurelian said:
Well, UFC would be getting PPV, gate, and also whatever split with ESPN, plus whatever income I'm not aware of. Gate would probably be 6-8 million alone.
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I meant PPV sales, the area will sell out guaranteed. Jones/Gane was pretty high, pretty sure Stipe fight didn't sell enough to brag about. But Aspinall hype would be bigger than Gane.
 
The UFC does not offer that type of money guaranteed . Look how much Conor McGregor was getting guaranteed at his peak
 
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Thepaintbucket said:
The UFC does not offer that type of money guaranteed . Look how much Conor McGregor was getting guaranteed at his peak
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In all fairness, it might not be a popular sentiment, but based on the revenue he brought in for the UFC compared to what they directly paid him, Conor might technically be the most underpaid fighter.
 
ChickenBrother said:
If you connect the dots based on what we know, it's clear what's going on behind the scenes.

UFC/Aspinall wants Jones vs. Aspinall for the real HW strap. UFC has offered Jones $12M or whatever and they want both fighters to sign the contract.

But Jones is like nah. He wants to keep the belt and have the OPTION to get a $12M guaranteed payday when and if he feels like it over the next 3 or 4 years. Obviously that would leave Aspinall hanging but Tom is the B side.

Tom is like interim belt or undisputed belt IDGAF just let me fight and get paid.

UFC knows Jones vs. Aspinall for the real belt is the biggest fight they can make right now. No one outside of hardcores gives a fuck about Aspinall vs. Gane/Volkov/Blaydes/Almeida right now. They also know that Jones would be a bigger draw as the "reigning defending HW champ" than as some 45 year old schmo coming out of retirement to get beaten down like Miocic did. That's why UFC hasn't stripped him yet but they will probably do so if they can't get him to fight by MSG.
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For any of the new kids around Sherdog

Here are "some" of the dots ...

Jones lost his sponsorships years back due to personal behaviors.

Jones was at odds with UFC.

Jones took Cryin'fart to a decision, pathetically.

Jones has been called the greatest ever, but his numbers are not like Lesnar and McGregor.

Jones was "retired" already and took 3 years to move to heavyweight.

He arrived at HW the exact moment Francis left.

Francis went on to do the McGregor vs Famous boxer path... But without the UFC. Got hefty payouts.

Jones fought Gane
(who got easily outclassed by Francis.
Fuckin out wrestled by Francis. Seriously.)

Jones fought Stipe who was last murdered by Francis. It was a sad day in mma. Stipe disappeared and finally came back an old man.

Jones then wanted to fight another striker, who fought at 185 repeatedly in the UFC, Alex P.

Meanwhile there are two imaginary belts in HW.

A year went by and Tom, who holds a belt in the same division (how this makes any sense), is due a fight or his annual payout. So the UFC give him a date and opponent... To secure this situation instead of Tom being paid out (this is important).
The "opponent" is for "the singular UFC HW title".
Not the contender or Jones. Tom signed to show he is ready. Tom can legally break contract after 1 year and six months if they go to court. He has a case for the situation of two belts, stalling out his career in his prime, and would be released before the end of year 2. This is the key to what's occuring right now for Tom.

Jones, doesn't feel he is getting Wilder money, so he will be "stripped". It will be framed as "i don't care about the belt, I'm retiring the GOAT, i trolled ... (Whoever in his imagination)".

Tom will secure a lesser payout,
and the belt, again.

Jones in 2026 will hint at "un-retiring" after his contract is up. Which is to say, he is out of the testing pool six months.

We will have a McGregor situation, with Jones.

Tom will fight again due to impatience and show weaknesses, possibly get an injury.
Prompting Jones confidence to return.

Jones will need the money, come out of retirement to fight Tom as a "superfight" because he is pulling a GSP (vs Bisping). This will fund more hype, and help Jon get his money. Sadly and pathetically, it will be almost exactly the amount he turned down. In true Jones fashion.

Now before anyone mentions Jon needing money as speculation, remember that the more money, the more problems. Many fighters have larger issues with money, bad investments, family issues, and fighters always want to return for money fights. Jones money fight was Francis. He saw Francis get boxing money in ONE FIGHT.
HE WATCHED AS FRANCIS GOT IT TWICE.
Regardless of his loss, regardless of PFL failures,
It's a money thing.

Gus beat the piss out out of Jones (by Jon's own admission and story from the hospital crying to his mom, needing help to use the toilet).

If he is going to lose his undefeated record, or get beat up winning a decision, he wants "Francis boxing money". He wants "Mcgregor money".

What does this mean?

He wants MORE than money, he wants sponsorships, deals, backdoor business and the usual PPV.

The UFC simply hands billionaires more money but fighters... Peanuts by comparison.

Jones knows this.

(Side note - Chael is the biggest liar in MMA. Trust nothing that man says about anything.)
 
12 million for fighting some no name, no legacy, flavor of the month British can crusher that will, just like Gane, be forgotten in a week? He must ask for more!
Am I doing it right?
 
$12 million guaranteed is pretty good. Even if the fight sells well and Jones would make $30 million including PPV shares, there is no guarantee it would do well.
 
Imagine believing anything Sonnen says, he's a personality who makes shit up, he's a character. He knows nothing and has been proven wrong a million times. Didnt he just say in back to back days Jones/Tom was done and then Jones was out and its Tom/Gane?

He's basically that Rueben Carter guy from twitter, just making shit up and seeing what sticks.
 
Söze Aldo said:
And who says that's correct? Game is fighting next on a fight night card, he's not going to be facing Aspinall then.
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Oh really? and which one is that? You're breaking some news bro, tell us about it
 
Tweak896 said:
maybe 12M + PPV split. But really thinking about it, how much could the fight really sell? I'm thinking maybe 1M-1.5M at most.
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1M at the VERY most. He couldn't sell a million during his most heated rivalry back when people still bought ppv.
 
If I'm jones, I'm only taking 12 mill if the UFC can give 8-12 dollars per ppv buy.
 
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Aurelian said:
He's trying to make money by putting out bullshit content and hoping suckers spread it around so he can get paid. Chael isn't a reliable source for anything. There's probably 200 people in the MMA world who would be a better and more reliable source.

Wasteland.
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Aurelian said:
No no no, bans for anyone creating threads based on anything Chael says
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Chael said the Jones fight was off a month ago. Account bet that he's wrong?
 
Captain Herb said:
Chael said the Jones fight was off a month ago. Account bet that he's wrong?
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I'm not trusting Chael on anything. If Chael says the sky is blue, I'm gonna have to walk outside to verify that for myself. He just makes stuff up to see what people will buy into and spread around for his own financial benefit. If I took the time I could probably give you 1000 examples of Chael being wrong.
 
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