Jones Making the Same Mistake as Conor

[Edward Henry Greb]

If you actually watch Jon Jones' attempted "boxing techniques," he is making the same mistakes as Conor McGregor.

McGregor used to be a free-flowing, multi-dimensional karateka, with a very wide stance, and unpredictable movements. Gradually, over time, McGregor began to "body-build" — while simultaneously trying to build "more muscle" — in addition to developing "a tight boxing stance."

Virtually all of McGregor's embarrassing losses have come from this shift.

Jon Jones is making the same mistake. He not only looks stiff and slow in his videos, but he actually winds his hands back, prior to punching. Absolutely forced, amateurish boxing technique.

IMO, Jones is making the exact same mistake Conor McGregor did:

1. Getting enamored with "muscles"
2. Thereby moving up in weight;
3. And then trying to be "a boxer" (when he doesn't have the aptitude).

And, similar to Conor, I predict Jones will similarly get KTFO for his bad choices.

Absolutely all of Jones' successes (as well as Conor's @ FW) were because of his enormous size/reach differential for his weight, compared to his opponents.

As soon as those were removed, so too did all of the losses come raining down.

Mark my words.

As great as he was at LHW, Jones will be humiliated against Gane at HW.

 

[tomjones]

Your right Jones needs size advantage. But he could still get a points win against Gane.

 

[World eater]

Ok, words marked. We’ll see. I’m rooting for Gane, but I’m not as confident as most of the posters here seem to be.
Looks like Gane is preparing against wrestling, but how about them eyepokes?

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Your right Jones needs size advantage. But he could still get a points win against Gane.

Sure, anything's possible.

However, Gane is bigger than Jones, faster than Jones, and a more fluid kickboxer than Jones.

Ironically, Ciryl Gane is also bigger-boned than Jonny "Bones" Jones ...

Ciryl Gane has larger natural muscle bellies, and is just a bigger man, while also being more fluid as a striker.

Jones may have better wrestling, but he has had difficulty holding down former middleweights, so I don't think he's holding Ciryl Gane down at all.

I think Jones is going to be deeply embarrassed after this upcoming event.

 

[CPH]

No. Nate exposed Conor's flowy karate style for what it was: high-energy theater built around his real weapons: a powerful left hand and extraordinary timing. After that, he realized that to finish guys who wouldn't go away in 8 minutes, he needed to develop his boxing beyond the left hand and cut out the useless bouncing and theatrics. Flowy karate Conor = 8 minutes of cardio, panic wrestling, tap

 

[tomjones]

Sure, anything's possible.

However, Gane is bigger than Jones, faster than Jones, and a more fluid kickboxer than Jones.

Ironically, Ciryl Gane is also bigger-boned than Jonny "Bones" Jones ...

Ciryl Gane has larger natural muscle bellies, and is just a bigger man, while also being more fluid as a striker.

Jones may have better wrestling, but he has had difficulty holding down former middleweights, so I don't think he's holding Ciryl Gane down at all.

I think Jones is going to be deeply embarrassed after this upcoming event.

Another factor aswell, is that Jones is past his best.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

No. Nate exposed Conor's flowy karate style for what it was: high-energy theater built around his real weapons: a powerful left hand and extraordinary timing. After that, he realized that to finish guys who wouldn't go away in 8 minutes, he needed to develop his boxing beyond the left hand and cut out the useless bouncing and theatrics. Flowy karate Conor = 8 minutes of cardio, panic wrestling, tap

Only when he moved up from Featherweight.

At the lighter weight, enjoying the larger size, that didn't happen.
Conor's strength, power + frame advantage were too much.

Moving up in weight = no more size advantage + less power @ the larger weight = Conor's (and Jones') deficits are more easily exposed.

 

[Royce's Gi]

Another factor aswell, is that Jones is past his best.

And Cyril is a young man. In Rampageseses words, YOUNG MAN.

Who is the more man?

 

[Streeter]

Bones a fighter that has fought since 09 in UFC and never lost a single fight. Only "loss" a dq in fight he dominated n easily would of won. He cleans out the MMA glamor division at the time n dominated most . Bones again un beaten in his career with moat fights being against killers.

Conor an exciting fighter who is a top 5 ever fw.


How ffs can anyone compare these 2 an I like watching Conor

 

[rstringer]

Good fuckem!

 

[dogsdonutsdragons]

i think conor getting schooled by boxers put him in a state that makes him constantly over think his approach rather than flowing with it like he used to. could have happened to jon too. a lot of these guys get their ego crushed when they spar a boxer. its just a different sport one doesn't translate that well to the other.

 

[Banana Tree's Nemesis]

Random comparision between the two.
Jones style is built around the clinch and takedowns.
Anthony's style is stay on the feet above anything else.

Jon won't try to outstrike Cyril. His striking will be barely relevant in this fight.

 

[AmericanUppercut]

Sounds about right.

 

[Bearknuckle]

Jones can wrestle if his striking isnt working. Conor cannot.

 

[Bearknuckle]

Random comparision between the two.
Jones style is built around the clinch and takedowns.
Anthony's style is stay on the feet above anything else.

Jon won't try to outstrike Cyril. His striking will be barely relevant in this fight.

Thats what i think. Maybe jones is showing his striking clips to get gane thinking about his striking. He will strike for a little, but he will eventually tie up gane and take him down. Jones has really high fight IQ.

 

[b00tysweat]

No. Nate exposed Conor's flowy karate style for what it was: high-energy theater built around his real weapons: a powerful left hand and extraordinary timing. After that, he realized that to finish guys who wouldn't go away in 8 minutes, he needed to develop his boxing beyond the left hand and cut out the useless bouncing and theatrics. Flowy karate Conor = 8 minutes of cardio, panic wrestling, tap

he beat the brakes off Max for 15 minutes straight

 

[jikjik]

If you actually watch Jon Jones' attempted "boxing techniques," he is making the same mistakes as Conor McGregor.

McGregor used to be a free-flowing, multi-dimensional karateka, with a very wide stance, and unpredictable movements. Gradually, over time, McGregor began to "body-build" — while simultaneously trying to build "more muscle" — in addition to developing "a tight boxing stance."

Virtually all of McGregor's embarrassing losses have come from this shift.

Jon Jones is making the same mistake. He not only looks stiff and slow in his videos, but he actually winds his hands back, prior to punching. Absolutely forced, amateurish boxing technique.

IMO, Jones is making the exact same mistake Conor McGregor did:

1. Getting enamored with "muscles"
2. Thereby moving up in weight;
3. And then trying to be "a boxer" (when he doesn't have the aptitude).

And, similar to Conor, I predict Jones will similarly get KTFO for his bad choices.

Absolutely all of Jones' successes (as well as Conor's @ FW) were because of his enormous size/reach differential for his weight, compared to his opponents.

As soon as those were removed, so too did all of the losses come raining down.

Mark my words.

As great as he was at LHW, Jones will be humiliated against Gane at HW.

With Jones thou, I would not be surprised if he posted them specifically, to lure first opponent into a trap, assuming Jones is an easy stationary target.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Jones can wrestle if his striking isnt working. Conor cannot.

Pointing out "a difference" between the two doesn't disprove the similarity expressed in the thread topic.

Not to mention "the difference" was also covered.

 

[jk7707]

Gane TKO rd1 by larger muscle belly.

 

[Mebetter]

Does Gane have any submissions or grappling skills off his back? I think this is Gane's first test against someone with a real takedown threat.
I'm not sure this will be decided on the feet this is MMA and grappling is a big path to victory for Jones who has great ground and pound.