Jones is an easier fight than Aspinall

Tom is in his prime, a legit HW, complete fighter. And he is hunger, he doesn't have a name yet

We all saw what happened to a fighter coming out of retirement with Stipe

Nunes will be a huge underdog vs Kyla

Plus, Jon has a history of substance abuse. Look at Conor, he can't compete anymore

Poatan, meanwhile, has been alcohol-free for 15 years and is surprisingly improving

How would you know what's an easier fight? You've never fought any of them.
 
Man I really didn’t want to do this so soon and if you look at the history of my posts I have stated several times that Jon is the GOAT

But I feel like the loss of his brother just a couple of years older than him either reignites his desire to fight like never before
Or crushes his will and makes him timid because he can see how fragile life actually is.
Jon likely thinks himself as invincible and has called his brothers twice the athlete he is which would make them even more invincible
We don’t know much about Arthur’s personal life but we do know he passed away in his sleep and that a Pacemaker and heart monitoring phone app alerted his family members that it hadn’t picked up any heart activity
Jon loves cocaine which is a stimulant and it’s not easy on the heart…that shit is scary dude. Scary and very very sad at the same time. Especially if Arthur treated his own body better than Jon does, Jon’s risk taking behavior prior to the death of his brother might give him very bad survivors guilt
Or it makes him fight like never before and wants to get on the White House card.
Trump likely wants an American to headline, Jon is American and likely to win the fight against almost anyone. Tom and Alex being foreigners are perfect opponents for that situation (although I’d prefer the foreigner to have the personality of a bad guy like Bisping kinda used to be and in this situation I guess Jon is kinda the bad guy) it’s a terrible thing if Arthur had to pass away to be what gets Jon to value this one chance at life to get this achievement of the real Forever GOAT if he goes in there and fights Tom-Jon would probably be at the disadvantage for the first time in his fighting career. To end it like that and call it a career would be some Ali-esque type cultural achievement
You were on point with the death of his Brother might affect him and then you went way off the rails
 
Rankings are arbitrary and don't even determine title shots. Alex defended against Rountree who was ranked 4th or 5th. Acting like rankings are some utterly objective determinant of anything is completely false.
Again

Our opinions of the UFC ranking are irrelevant.

They are what they are, and the parameters the fighters and organization operate within.

No UFC champion is going to call out a UFC ranked #7 fighter , who just suffered a loss.

Regardless of personal feelings towards said fighter.
 
Again

Our opinions of the UFC ranking are irrelevant.

They are what they are, and the parameters the fighters and organization operate within.

No UFC champion is going to call out a UFC ranked #7 fighter , who just suffered a loss.

Regardless of personal feelings towards said fighter.

The rankings are what they are but it's not "feelings" to say that the #4 ranked fighter fought for the LHW title recently. That's a FACT. And what that FACT tells us is that the rankings actually don't mean anything. You clinging to them is YOUR feelings about how important they are but I've literally just given you proof of how little they mean.
 
These are the facts-

When Jones beat #1 Gane (Interim champ) Stipe was #2 and Tom was #7 having lost Curtis Blaydes

No champion is going to call out a barely ranked fighter who just lost.

Tom got the interim belt, Jones retired saying he only wants super fights


Alex Perriera is the only super fight other than Jones in the sport.

These are the facts


Personally Id be pleased to see Jones fight Tom or Alex. But the reality is Jones beats Tom, its no different than beating Gane. "Oh Tom was a nobody and not hat good"


Alex vs Jones is a true superfight everyone will watch
OK thanks. Putting you on ignore now.
 
The ppv model being gone actually makes it MORE likely Alex would vacate imo. No more ppv points for champions clauses in contracts. He is a big enough name that the belt likely won't affect his outside income and marketability.
He's 38 and the UFC (even in the post ppv era) would like him for a few more fights before he's done. He knows it. That's his leverage and has little to do with him having a belt.
I think the UFC would need to have their champions fight so they can have more leverage as they book each fight. Every fight will be negotiated and the UFC will have to pay the fighters they need. Maybe you are right but I don't see Alex having that much fame outside the UFC. Hell even Jones isn't remotely close to the levels of Brock, Rhonda, Conor or even GSP.
 
I think the UFC would need to have their champions fight so they can have more leverage as they book each fight. Every fight will be negotiated and the UFC will have to pay the fighters they need. Maybe you are right but I don't see Alex having that much fame outside the UFC. Hell even Jones isn't remotely close to the levels of Brock, Rhonda, Conor or even GSP.

I think it's something they are gonna figure out as they go.
 
Dont mention it.

Facts are very, very painful for some people. No doubt.

Like the fact that the rankings don't really matter all that much? Could you tell me where Kai Asukura was ranked when he fought Pantoja for the belt recently? That's a FACT that's easy to find, take a look.
 
Like the fact that the rankings don't really matter all that much? Could you tell me where Kai Asukura was ranked when he fought Pantoja for the belt recently? That's a FACT that's easy to find, take a look.
Like ive said before

No champion is going to call out a fighter ranked #7 or #8

Who just LOST their last fight.

No matter how passionately YOU feel about the fighter.

Ranking mean EVERYTHING not your personal feelings
 
These are the facts-

When Jones beat #1 Gane (Interim champ) Stipe was #2 and Tom was #7 having lost Curtis Blaydes

No champion is going to call out a barely ranked fighter who just lost.

Tom got the interim belt, Jones retired saying he only wants super fights


Alex Perriera is the only super fight other than Jones in the sport.

These are the facts


Personally Id be pleased to see Jones fight Tom or Alex. But the reality is Jones beats Tom, its no different than beating Gane. "Oh Tom was a nobody and not hat good"


Alex vs Jones is a true superfight everyone will watch
The problem isn't what Jones did directly after the fight when what you are saying would apply. it's the year plus after and when Tom won three fights, including redeeming that "loss", and clearly became the next guy in line and Jon stuck with going with an old Stipe that hadn't fought for years, and then soft retired when there was still a clear contender.
 
Like ive said before

No champion is going to call out a fighter ranked #7 or #8

Who just LOST their last fight.

No matter how passionately YOU feel about the fighter.

Ranking mean EVERYTHING not your personal feelings

Why do you keep talking about who "calls out" someone? Who cares? We are talking about actually scheduling title fights. So just let me know where Asakura was ranked when he fought Pantoja for the belt? I mean, if rankings "mean everything", he must've been ranked #1 right? Or at worst #2 if the #1 guy was injured or unavailable. So answer the question, where was he ranked? No feelings involved, it's a straightforward question.
 
No champion is any organization is going to call out a #8 ranked fighter who just LOST.

Take it up with the UFC and their ranking systems and protocols then. Because you can’t say that those weren’t their official rankings, or that any of the previous posts contain false information.

At the time Jon won the belt Stipe had already been out for two years after getting decapitated by Ngannou, and was nearly 3 years removed from his last win. He then sat at home for almost another 2 years before he fought Jon. By that time Aspinall had already been interim champion for a year, and defended the belt, meaning Tom was the clear no1 contender to fight Jon for 19 of the 27 months that Jon held the belt.
 
Stipe should have lost his already dubious claim at a title shot when he refused to fight for the interim title against Pavlovitch when Jon got injured, simple as that.
 
Stipe should have lost his already dubious claim at a title shot when he refused to fight for the interim title against Pavlovitch when Jon got injured, simple as that.
Stipe was afforded the infamous Dana White privilege. Dana saw him as the UFC HW GOAT, so allowed him to do whatever he wanted regardless of whether it made sense. Probably backed on the thought that he knew Jones would beat him and then he could promote Jones as the HW champ after his storied LHW career. But then Jones retired, kind of.

Stipe was a great in his prime. Everyone loved him. But the Jones fight was nonsense from the start, and was even more nonsense when it actually happened.
 
Stipe was afforded the infamous Dana White privilege. Dana saw him as the UFC HW GOAT, so allowed him to do whatever he wanted regardless of whether it made sense. Probably backed on the thought that he knew Jones would beat him and then he could promote Jones as the HW champ after his storied LHW career. But then Jones retired, kind of.

Stipe was a great in his prime. Everyone loved him. But the Jones fight was nonsense from the start, and was even more nonsense when it actually happened.
Everybody involved acted in their own rational self interest.
Stipe waited for the Jones fight because he knew that was the biggest pay day.
Jon insisted on getting the Stipe fight because it was the best in terms of risk reward for his legacy.
The UFC went along with it because they wanted to squeeze the most juice they could out of their names and this was the one fight they knew for sure they could get out of them at this stage of their career.

At the end of the day, Tom got fucked over out of some of his prime years, a shot at the undisputed title, the biggest payday and boost to his profile/legacy he ever had the chance of getting in his carreer. So he was right to do whatever he could to get that fight, or at least boost his profile by associating his image with his. Being known as "the guy Jon Jones ducked" already made him a bigger star than he would be otherwise.
 
Everybody involved acted in their own rational self interest.
Stipe waited for the Jones fight because he knew that was the biggest pay day.
Jon insisted on getting the Stipe fight because it was the best in terms of risk reward for his legacy.
The UFC went along with it because they wanted to squeeze the most juice they could out of their names and this was the one fight they knew for sure they could get out of them at this stage of their career.

At the end of the day, Tom got fucked over out of some of his prime years, a shot at the undisputed title, the biggest payday and boost to his profile/legacy he ever had the chance of getting in his carreer. So he was right to do whatever he could to get that fight, or at least boost his profile by associating his image with his. Being known as "the guy Jon Jones ducked" already made him a bigger star than he would be otherwise.
I would say this is all 100% accurate.
 
The problem isn't what Jones did directly after the fight when what you are saying would apply. it's the year plus after and when Tom won three fights, including redeeming that "loss", and clearly became the next guy in line and Jon stuck with going with an old Stipe that hadn't fought for years, and then soft retired when there was still a clear contender.

The UFC wasnt going to cancel a superfight between Jones (the GOAT)'and Stipe (the HW Goat) at Madison Square Garden for an unknown fighter.

This isnt an opinion this is plain old common business sense.

Why is this hard to understand?
 
Why do you keep talking about who "calls out" someone? Who cares? We are talking about actually scheduling title fights. So just let me know where Asakura was ranked when he fought Pantoja for the belt? I mean, if rankings "mean everything", he must've been ranked #1 right? Or at worst #2 if the #1 guy was injured or unavailable. So answer the question, where was he ranked? No feelings involved, it's a straightforward question.
Where was who ranked??

What point if any you are trying to make here?
 
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