Jones is a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT fighting at heavyweight. He is NOT a legit HEAVYWEIGHT. Why would he a flash in the pan? Why didnt GSP fight Yoel Romeo?

[tritestill]

Why are you not banned bro?

 

[Dana's Moonface]

Jon's reign at LHW> GSP reign at WW
Jon's reign at HW>GSP reign at MW

Read it and reap

 

[IIIIIIII]

GSP vacated the belt immediately. Jon beat Gane and then defended against a shell of a former champ, semi-retired Miocic. It’s not even the same.

it's the same in terms of acquiring the belt; receiving undeserved title shots. it's slightly different afterwards for both. jones defended it once. gsp knew he was never going to defend it, and instead wasted everyone's time by setting up a championship fight he knew was a complete waste to everyone, but his own ego. in that sense, i give jones a bit more credit lol.

 

[Qays Stetkevich]

What is the result if Jones beats gis ass and retires dummy? You do understand they snatched him basically out of retirement to fast track him to the belt for a damn reason the second Frank left. Talking to children that can’t see the bigger picture is tiring but I’ll slow down for you

You seemed triggered, so now you're using disingenuous deflective arguments that are completely missing the point (intentionally) of everything I said. Or you're just very, very stupid. Either way, suck-off the "entertainment" part of the UFC if you don't like the "sport" part, I'll just agree to disagree there.

 

[Mind Mine]

You seemed triggered, so now you're using disingenuous deflective arguments that are completely missing the point (intentionally) of everything I said. Or you're just very, very stupid. Either way, suck-off the "entertainment" part of the UFC if you don't like the "sport" part, I'll just agree to disagree there.

Not triggered whatsoever I have repeatedly said the same thing and it’s really quite simple if you view it sans emotional attachment which kinda makes me look at you as a clown for saying words like triggered. Explaining simple things to you because you emotionally want that fight or you may perhaps want Jones to lose gets pretty fucking nauseating don’t you think? Especially when people lower the value of the discussion with the insinuation I fear for Jones safety or legacy. I have no patience for it but far from triggering my son

 

[Bouboumaster]

The real UFC Undisputed Heavyweight belt is currently around the waiste of a dude who is currently in fucking PFL, because Dana White is a dumbass, and because Jon Jones ducked him like nobody else

 

[Mind Mine]

You seemed triggered, so now you're using disingenuous deflective arguments that are completely missing the point (intentionally) of everything I said. Or you're just very, very stupid. Either way, suck-off the "entertainment" part of the UFC if you don't like the "sport" part, I'll just agree to disagree there.

Perhaps if you go back without emotion or feelings of slight and read what I said it is very clear why the UFC fast tracked Jones as well as it would be a horrible idea for competitive advantage and money to make that fight. Perhaps you as a fan don’t understand these things which is why you make claims a common child would. It’s really pretty easy

 

[Qays Stetkevich]

Not triggered whatsoever I have repeatedly said the same thing and it’s really quite simple if you view it sans emotional attachment which kinda makes me look at you as a clown for saying words like triggered. Explaining simple things to you because you emotionally want that fight or you may perhaps want Jones to lose gets pretty fucking nauseating don’t you think? Especially when people lower the value of the discussion with the insinuation I fear for Jones safety or legacy. I have no patience for it but far from triggering my son

Seriously, be honest or don't respond: Why are you projecting that my saying, over and over again, that the interim champ should and deserves to only fight the champ, is "emotional". You're just making up the emotional narrative now because what I'm saying, over and over again, is rational: Interim champ deserves to fight champ, to unify the belt/division. Meanwhile, my pointing out that you're being triggered/irrational with your responses (as you are now) is "emotional". Just weird.

 

[DrunkMonkMeth]

Jones is NOT a heavyweight he looked like a slightly chubby version of himself. He is a legit LHW he should move down if anything.

Vacate then. Dont talk about fighting other guys at hw

 

[Mind Mine]

Seriously, be honest or don't respond: Why are you projecting that my saying, over and over again, that the interim champ should and deserves to only fight the champ, is "emotional". You're just making up the emotional narrative now because what I'm saying, over and over again, is rational: Interim champ deserves to fight champ, to unify the belt/division. Meanwhile, my pointing out that you're being triggered/irrational with your responses (as you are now) is "emotional". Just weird.

It is emotional and irrefutably so because there are obvious situations in which it should not occur. Blatantly obvious where a man would have to be of a childlike mind to not understand or too emotionally invested. One very good reason would be you lead the industry and doing so may leave you ina situation without a valuable HW as the face of your league when other companies are trying to take over and you just had a massive lawsuit lost. Of course when we view things through the one dimensional lens of a fan unwilling to see how dumb it would be to give a child what he wants at present while tanking your business your logic would maje sense.. I can tell you that your either emotional state on the matter or lack of willingness to understand you are watching a business at war is something you should work on. There are very valid reasons the fight should pause an Tom build his own legacy. Somehow your brain wasn’t equipped to understand this and I’m not going deep. Basically Sir me telling you this is emotional is a compliment as the other option is well… I’m going to leave it at youre processing this with emotion out of respect

 

[r-harper-1]

Why go to HW then? who is even there for him to fight after this?

Derek Lewis lol

 

[Mind Mine]

Jones is ducking Aspinall. Have a nice day.

Well I don’t give a solid shit what type of day you have nor if you feel Jones is ducking nor have any concern if you think I’m in the opposite side of the fence. You can’t duck a fight the organization doesn’t want to occur for reasons anyone not stupid can see

 

[Joshua8531]

Is Alex 205? Could aspinal make 205?

No way in hell. Your a bad salesman.

 

[Joshua8531]

I agree wholeheartedly with this and for the sake of mma hear me out completely THE ASPINALL FIGHT MAKES ZERO SENSE. If Jones wins he takes fun fights and retires with HW looking the worst ever. If Aspinall wins he looks like a Jones slayer til he gets beat himself now not only is Jones retired your Jones slayer just is basically a Reyes 2.0. Let Tom fight whomever for the belt and Jones do whatever he wants is the safest route mma keeps Jones a few more and HW sorts itself out. Tom can even brag how Jones ducked him to get his clout

Tried to read 3 times. Too stupid to finish.

 

[omawho402]

100% agree Jones is a LHW. The fact he beat two tough guys at HW is spectacular. I'd like to see him tone up and scoop that LHW title back up right quick.

 

[omawho402]

Are you implying Jones did not look comically larger than 90% of the LHWs he faced?

Taller and longer, but not thicker. Very thin legs also make him deceptive.

 

[Joshua8531]

I wanted to say this so many years but didn’t want the backlash

He fought the top contenders in reality who were presented to him. What else can a champion do?

 

[pamirec]

it's the same in terms of acquiring the belt; receiving undeserved title shots. it's slightly different afterwards for both. jones defended it once. gsp knew he was never going to defend it, and instead wasted everyone's time by setting up a championship fight he knew was a complete waste to everyone, but his own ego. in that sense, i give jones a bit more credit lol.

Same up until aquiring the belt, I agree. Both waited for the right time and opponent, but you can’t be serious saying Jones/Miocic for the “undisputed UFC heavyweight championship belt” is better than GSP vacating the belt and let the real challengers fight for it. Lol.

 

[bjjwar]

I'll outright say it without any implications. Find me a picture of him looking in any way shape or form weight drained on the scales. And then maybe find me some evidence of him having issues cutting weight.


Cormier famously struggled to make light heavyweight. Dimensions like height and reach don't really matter as much as size, unless you think Israel Adesanya and Karmaru Usman are larger than Daniel Cormier.

It matters if you fight someone and you look like 3 times his size. Not the skinny tall dude type, but literally making the other guy look like a midget.

Cormier was struggling to make 205 because he was eating junk food. Just look at him at 205, he still was chubby at that weight. Also strenght wise Jones ragdolled Cormier. Jones is a big HW. Like i said 90% of HW’s could easily fight at LHW. I’m 6ft4 and walk around 230 in shape. In 1 week by dieting alone i could make 205 or by just eating a bit more i could be 250-260 but i start looking a bit chubby like Jones at that weight, alot stronger tho ofc. I already did both btw, its nothing special for my/this kind of frame.

 

[Mind Mine]

He fought the top contenders in reality who were presented to him. What else can a champion do?

I assure you I didn’t say he didn’t. It is my OPINION his strength of schedule is atrocious and you’re being a whiny bitch about this. Get your guilt ridden ass outta here