News Jones hit with new charge

Cartiac said:
On a side note did noone else notice the statement that when the police arrived they found a woman sitting in the passenger seat naked as s jaybird from the waist down? Did he run off with her knickers or did she just not have any when she got in the car?
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I believe that she supposedly peed her pants at his place and took them off before leaving.
 
Kowboy On Sherdog said:
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Jon's very fitting walk of shame,
and the public is much safer without him driving.
 
JBJ was here said:
I'm guessing that you could count the number of successful prosecutions for "Use of Telephone to Terrify, Intimidate, Threaten, Harass, Annoy or Offend" in cases where:

1) the offender didn't make the call;
2) the offender was drunk;
3) the offender and the person on the other end of the call were complete strangers; and
4) the offender never left his home

on the fingers of one wrist stump. My second guess is that the entire point of this charge is to trick Jones into admitting he was drunk as part of his defense, setting him up for a DUI. It's not likely to work.
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So, here's the thing:

"Annoy or offend" is stupid. That's a criminal charge? GTFO. The rest is kinda serious shit. So...

1. Yes that works in Jones' favor that he didn't make the call.

2. Not gonna matter a whole lot. Just not a defense for...you know...threatening a cop on the phone that you can have him whacked.

3. Irrelevant given that in most interactions between a cop and a civilian they're "complete strangers". Threatening a LEO's life isn't harder to prosecute because the guy who made the threat doesn't know the cop LOL.


4. This is relevant, but only to a limited degree. The threat isn't presented as an imminent one. Jones isn't enraged saying he's gonna come after the cop right then. He's saying he "knows people" that can make the cop disappear. Jones not leaving his home doesn't factor in a ton in relation to the type of threat he made.

Honestly, it's kinda weird that people hear that and think "Meh, whatever. Threatening a cop's life over the phone while drunk is just a Thursday night. No need to get worked up or file more charges". Like...wtf? Drunk or not, if someone starts telling me they know people who can "disappear me"...that motherfucker is in my (metaphorical) scope. It's not trivial bullshit. There's shit you don't say to people.
 
mkess101 said:
So, here's the thing:

"Annoy or offend" is stupid. That's a criminal charge? GTFO. The rest is kinda serious shit. So...

1. Yes that works in Jones' favor that he didn't make the call.

2. Not gonna matter a whole lot. Just not a defense for...you know...threatening a cop on the phone that you can have him whacked.

3. Irrelevant given that in most interactions between a cop and a civilian they're "complete strangers". Threatening a LEO's life isn't harder to prosecute because the guy who made the threat doesn't know the cop LOL.


4. This is relevant, but only to a limited degree. The threat isn't presented as an imminent one. Jones isn't enraged saying he's gonna come after the cop right then. He's saying he "knows people" that can make the cop disappear. Jones not leaving his home doesn't factor in a ton in relation to the type of threat he made.

Honestly, it's kinda weird that people hear that and think "Meh, whatever. Threatening a cop's life over the phone while drunk is just a Thursday night. No need to get worked up or file more charges". Like...wtf? Drunk or not, if someone starts telling me they know people who can "disappear me"...that motherfucker is in my (metaphorical) scope. It's not trivial bullshit. There's shit you don't say to people.
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First point: the charge has nothing to do with threatening police. The person threatened happened to be with law enforcement, but calling up a drunk stranger and saying you're with the police won't support a finding that the drunk person believed or should have believed you were with the police.

Second point: If you read a story about the police deciding it would be a great idea to goose arrest numbers by calling up known drunks, secretly recording the calls, antagonizing them until they said something profoundly stupid, then charging them five months later with making threats over the phone on no evidence beyond the secret recordings and testimony verifying the recordings, I'm 100% confident you'd be so outraged by the police action that your head would explode. The only reason you believe there is merit to this charge is that it is being brought against Jon Jones.

Jon Jones is a horrible human being. This charge is an absurd and extremely unusual charge that would never be brought except as leverage for something else. Let your mind hold these two very obviously true ideas at the same time and you'll be a better person for it.
 
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JBJ was here said:
First point: the charge has nothing to do with threatening police. The person threatened happened to be with law enforcement, but calling up a drunk stranger and saying you're the police won't support a finding that the drunk person believed or should have believed you were the police.

Second point: If you read a story about the police deciding it would be a great idea to goose arrest numbers by calling up known drunks, secretly recording the calls, antagonizing them until they said something profoundly stupid, then charging them five months later with making threats over the phone on no evidence beyond the secret recordings and testimony verifying the recordings, I'm 100% confident you'd be so outraged by the police action that your head would explode.

Jon Jones is a horrible human being. This charge is an absurd and extremely unusual charge that would never be brought except as leverage for something else. Let your mind hold these two very obviously true ideas at the same time and you'll be a better person for it.
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The flaw in this imo is that the call came from the woman's phone that Jones was with. The cop didn't call him, right? Jones talked to the woman first...he clearly knew who it was. And since he fled the scene of an accident, any reasonable person would assume that Jones also knew she was handing the phone to a cop who was on the scene.

Or is your contention that they don't have enough evidence that Jones was there? That's a different story if that's the defense. My understanding is that it's accepted he was there and it's just "who was driving?" that's in question. If it's conceded he was there, these arguments of "he couldn't reasonably ascertain it was a cop" fall apart. Because if we concede he was there in the car, we concede he knows the woman who's phone the call came from. And also that he fled the scene where police would obviously have arrived shortly after.

I'd also need to listen again maybe, but what did the cop say that you'd categorize as "antagonizing"? And why are we categorizing threats to someone's life as merely "extremely stupid".

I've said some stupid shit in my life. Really dumb stuff. Some while drunk. Wanna know what I haven't said? That I know people that will make someone disappear.
 
Something that's weird here is the second case being filed, which Jones' attorney is calling duplicate, has an ENTIRELY different date of offense.

The original case is:
66-7-201(D) - Leaving the Scene of an Accident (No Great Bodily Harm or Death)
Misdemeanor charge on 02/24/2025

The second case is:
66-7-201(D) - Leaving the Scene of an Accident (No Great Bodily Harm or Death)
30-20-12 - Use of Telephone to Terrify, Intimidate, Threaten, Harass, Annoy or Offend
Both are misdemeanor charges on 02/21/2024

So did they typo both the year AND the day? Cuz even if they meant 2025 instead of 2024, that's a different incident date, which imply it's not a duplicate. We had already known that the crash was reportedly on 2/21/25. Did they just fuck up the date twice while double charging him?
 
That would be an insane coincidence if Jon had 2 separate incident, both late February (2024 & 2025) both involving leaving the scene of an accident.

That seems too ridiculous even for Johnny Boy


Albuquerque police just randomly finding abandoned crashed driverless Bugatis and Ferrarris and Bentleys is amusing to me.
 
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<36> <suzylol> {<jordan}

Never fuckin' ends.

Predicable as fuck.

Anyone remember when i told y'all he was going to retire, not care about being stripped, and then unretire for 2026 after Tom is booked.

Did the same with Francis leaving the UFC.
3 fucking years in hiding, waits until the moment Francis leaves to appear at HW.

Officer Nerd.
 
mkess101 said:
So, here's the thing:

"Annoy or offend" is stupid. That's a criminal charge? GTFO. The rest is kinda serious shit. So...

1. Yes that works in Jones' favor that he didn't make the call.

2. Not gonna matter a whole lot. Just not a defense for...you know...threatening a cop on the phone that you can have him whacked.

3. Irrelevant given that in most interactions between a cop and a civilian they're "complete strangers". Threatening a LEO's life isn't harder to prosecute because the guy who made the threat doesn't know the cop LOL.


4. This is relevant, but only to a limited degree. The threat isn't presented as an imminent one. Jones isn't enraged saying he's gonna come after the cop right then. He's saying he "knows people" that can make the cop disappear. Jones not leaving his home doesn't factor in a ton in relation to the type of threat he made.

Honestly, it's kinda weird that people hear that and think "Meh, whatever. Threatening a cop's life over the phone while drunk is just a Thursday night. No need to get worked up or file more charges". Like...wtf? Drunk or not, if someone starts telling me they know people who can "disappear me"...that motherfucker is in my (metaphorical) scope. It's not trivial bullshit. There's shit you don't say to people.
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Just wanna clarify that I don't think the guy on the phone was a cop/LEO. He introduced himself as a PSA, which isn't an officer at all, they're civilians working for the police.

Had he been, Jones would firmly be in felony territory here.

JBJ was here said:
First point: the charge has nothing to do with threatening police. The person threatened happened to be with law enforcement, but calling up a drunk stranger and saying you're the police won't support a finding that the drunk person believed or should have believed you were the police.

Second point: If you read a story about the police deciding it would be a great idea to goose arrest numbers by calling up known drunks, secretly recording the calls, antagonizing them until they said something profoundly stupid, then charging them five months later with making threats over the phone on no evidence beyond the secret recordings and testimony verifying the recordings, I'm 100% confident you'd be so outraged by the police action that your head would explode. The only reason you believe there is merit to this charge is that it is being brought against Jon Jones.

Jon Jones is a horrible human being. This charge is an absurd and extremely unusual charge that would never be brought except as leverage for something else. Let your mind hold these two very obviously true ideas at the same time and you'll be a better person for it.
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Aren't your first and second posts kinda contradictory? You acknowledge this narrative that the PSA was the one antagonizing Jon over the phone until Jon said something stupid, so you're aware that the conversation is purely between the PSA and Jon at that point, but then pretend that the threat must have suddenly shifted subjects and been towards the female

mkess101 said:
I'd also need to listen again maybe, but what did the cop say that you'd categorize as "antagonizing"? And why are we categorizing threats to someone's life as merely "extremely stupid".
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I don't remember it word for word, but I do remember Jon's deleted social media afterwards where he said he was already defensive because the guy was already being a big ol meanie beforehand, and remember thinking that when I saw the video and thought that was a load of shit. Maybe a stern voice and spoke directly, but in no way was the guy rude before Jon pulled out a death threat
 
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Mohawk Banditó said:
Something that's weird here is the second case being filed, which Jones' attorney is calling duplicate, has an ENTIRELY different date of offense.

The original case is:
66-7-201(D) - Leaving the Scene of an Accident (No Great Bodily Harm or Death)
Misdemeanor charge on 02/24/2025

The second case is:
66-7-201(D) - Leaving the Scene of an Accident (No Great Bodily Harm or Death)
30-20-12 - Use of Telephone to Terrify, Intimidate, Threaten, Harass, Annoy or Offend
Both are misdemeanor charges on 02/21/2024

So did they typo both the year AND the day? Cuz even if they meant 2025 instead of 2024, that's a different incident date, which imply it's not a duplicate. We had already known that the crash was reportedly on 2/21/25. Did they just fuck up the date twice while double charging him?
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jeff7b9 said:
That would be an insane coincidence if Jon had 2 separate incident, both late February (2024 & 2025) both involving leaving the scene of an accident.

That seems too ridiculous even for Johnny Boy


Albuquerque police just randomly finding abandoned crashed driverless Bugatis and Ferrarris and Bentleys is amusing to me.
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Having two separate incidents at the of February of different years seems unlikely.

But, if you consider the possibility that he's done this 15 times since 2024 and was only caught twice so far, I think it becomes more realistic.
 
Mohawk Banditó said:
I don't remember it word for word, but I do remember Jon's deleted social media afterwards where he said he was already defensive because the guy was already being a big ol meanie beforehand, and remember thinking that when I saw the video and thought that was a load of shit. Maybe a stern voice and spoke directly, but in no way was the guy rude before Jon pulled out a death threat
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He was entirely passive even during the death threats
 
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