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Jones has spent his career ducking and afraid of everyones hes faced.I'm sure he waited for DC to retire because he was scared. Doesn't matter that they fought twice and Jones won both times. He is definitely ducking anyone good.

How the hell are you just ignoring the FACT Jones actually said it though?I wish DC would come out of retirement to fight Bones at HW...and then when Bones beats him (again), the same people who a few years back were saying "Jones won't fight DC at HW because he knows he would lose" could continue living in their fantasy world with things like "But if this fight had happened in (insert year here), DC clearly would have won because (arbitrary and non-applicable reason)"
“I’m a realist,” Jones said. “Daniel Cormier is a special athlete and anyone can be beat. I think my greatest chance of losing would be to a guy like Daniel Cormier. We’d be giving him a power and strength advantage over me; it just doesn’t make sense.
“Right now, I make light heavyweight very easily, and it would just make no sense to fight a guy who, I think, technically (is) on your level and to give him a size advantage. I’m not doing it. I’m sure my fans don’t like to hear me talk like that, but that’s just me being a realist – and being respectful of Daniel’s abilities.”
i think there's been a thread about this already. or twenty.
I think Stipe could still pose some problems for Jones, not giving him enough credit there TS.
Not sure if serious if you don't think stipe has been washed up for a while now. Even in his last win against DC he looked bad.
1) Jon would not give this ADVANTAGE to DC (by fighting at HW). Very different than running from someone he beat a few times already. But he said (for a very long time) that he wanted to move up. Even before DC!
Not true. Jones IS great. And Jones would probably beat Pavlovic and others in the division.Once again, we're back at denying Jones' GOATness by simply pretending his opponents suck instead of him being so great.
Stipe theoretically poses the same problems Gus originally did which was that he's a big boxer, good power, and good wrestling.
The question is whether Stipe can still do that. More importantly, though the rematch went extremely differently and dominantly for Jones so is that actually even an issue if he can.
This is only because the fight went the distance instead of being a 2nd round KO for Stipe. In the 2nd Stipe slumped him again and tried to finish him but it was right near the bell so DC was able to tie him up from mounted and survive.
We'd be talking about things a lot differently if Stipe went from 4th round KOing DC in a hard fought fight to easily 2nd round KOing him. Still, he clearly won the decision regardless.
If we wanted to argue something about where Stipe looked bad it was his fight IQ in the Ngannou rematch. He got dropped like a sack, quickly tried to fight back and surprisingly briefly stunned Ngannou in his tracks, and then took that to try and finish Ngannou himself instead of get a breather. That got him KO'd.
People are always so dishonest about this. The context was DC had already moved up to HW a year and a half ago and had 2 fights under his belt again, meanwhile Jones was still and had always been a LHW. DC did have an advantage over him by having adjusted up to HW while Jon was still a LHW. He was entirely correct to say that RIGHT NOW he didn't think it was in his interest to move up given DC currently had an advantage.
Anybody pretending like the current HW Jones, who already has successfully moved up to HW, wouldn't have fought that HW DC is being silly. The entire issue was about a LHW challenging a HW. He's a HW now and perfectly fine fighting other HWs now that there's no longer that difference. Just like he was at LHW.
Let alone the irony behind all of this is that the person actually ducking was DC. He was stripped of his LHW belt because he refused to defend against the returning Jones so the UFC had to make Jones/Gus II for a new title. Then the night before he was being stripped he pettily vacated the title so that history wouldn't officially record him of being stripped for failing to defend against Jones.
I hope I never meet you, or your offspring. You must be so proud to bring up children teaching them people like Jones are actually heroes, and should be adored.
Jones also didn't want to fight a prime Miocic in 2017:Wow, so Jones said he was afraid to fight Cormier at HW initially and waited for him and Francis to retire and leave UFC before calling out a washed up 40 year old who hasn't fought in over 2 years
Stipe theoretically poses the same problems Gus originally did which was that he's a big boxer, good power, and good wrestling.
The question is whether Stipe can still do that. More importantly, though the rematch went extremely differently and dominantly for Jones so is that actually even an issue if he can.
Wow, so Jones said he was afraid to fight Cormier at HW initially and waited for him and Francis to retire and leave UFC before calling out a washed up 40 year old who hasn't fought in over 2 years, also a part time fire fighter... Cormier already softened Miocic up, and Francis already ko'd him pretty good. This should be an interesting fight though, what kind of shape Miocic comes in and how this 2 years went, he is certainly out of his prime.
Not sure if serious if you don't think stipe has been washed up for a while now. Even in his last win against DC he looked bad.
Dude , stipe looked slow as hell and sloppy in his last fight with DC. DC looked even worse. I called the Francis would merk him in the rematch which he did.