Jones beats Fedor 9/10 But...

Yellowcrab said:
Meanwhile : —The old, decrepit Hendo is the one off TRT, that Cormier and Moose fought. I’m a Hendo fan, but every accolade he ever achieved in the sport was on TRT. Off TRT, he went 2-6.
Those are facts, bud.

I mean literally even in this message <36>

And once again, it is the worst possible argument as i've already said.

Without TRT his illness wasn't treated anymore, so obviously it could have an impact on his performances (assuming being off TRT is the actual reason) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypogonadism

It still doesn't mean he ever abused TRT, you still don't understant that simple point...



Please, he lost against Jake Shields in 2010 yet beat Fedor in 2011 <36>



Because not a single great fighter, NO MATTER THE FIGHTING SPORT, ever lost in the same conditions than Fedor :

- Against a smaller guy coming from a lower weight class
- By KO in the first round
- Against a fighter as old as Hendo + with such an age difference in favor of Fedor

Do you understand ? Not a single great fighter... there's no possible excuse for such a bad loss except for being completely overrated by some fanatics.
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Hendo is an all time great who has historically performed better at LHW. His loss to Shields is really taken out of context. Hendo has stated he had a back injury in training camp and still nearly killed Shields in the first round and gassed trying to finish and then got laid on for the rest of the fight taking no damage.

Hendo also knocked out multiple all time great LHWs like Wand and Shogun who aren't smaller than Fedor on fight night. He also knocked out Babalu who was coming off a win over Lawler and knocked out Feijao who was coming off KO wins over Romero and King Mo. Then Hendo beat Fedor and went back to the UFC to beat the hell out of Shogun and got a LHW title shot against Jon Jones.

You really think that Shields was better than Wand and Shogun? You really think the Hendo who beat these guys and got a title shot against Jones was the same guy who got a LHW title shot agaisnt Jones was the same guy who lost to Shields? Smh

Or are you just a low integrity internet loser who is trying to get a rise out of strangers on the internet?

Hmmmm
 
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The Last King said:
You're waiting because you're low iq

DC beat Bigfoot 2 years and 9 fights into his career.

Cain beat Bigfoot 10 fights and 6 years into his career.

Fedor lost to Bigfoot 35 fights and 11 years into his career.

Cain and DC were both retired 10 years into their careers.
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Cain & DC made good money fighting for the UFC, unlike Fedor who would have been the highest paid HW ever in the UFC but you know his management persuaded him to not sign.

There is still fighters to this day like Jon Jones who has been fighting for over decade against top competition and winning, the moment Fedor wasn't fighting pro wrestlers and in America he started to lose.
 
Kb7 said:
Cain & DC made good money fighting for the UFC, unlike Fedor who would have been the highest paid HW ever in the UFC but you know his management persuaded him to not sign.

There is still fighters to this day like Jon Jones who has been fighting for over decade against top competition and winning, the moment Fedor wasn't fighting pro wrestlers and in America he started to lose.
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Fedor has made more money than 90% of UFC fighters in the last two decades.

Secondly this has nothing to do with my post. Low iq deflection from you. Congrats.
 
The Last King said:
Fedor has made more money than 90% of UFC fighters in the last two decades.

Secondly this has nothing to do with my post. Low iq deflection from you. Congrats.
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I think you over estimate the amount of money Fedor got paid throughout his career, there is a reason why he was still fighting until recently & it was because he enjoyed getting beat up.

If he fought for the UFC & was successful I have no doubt he would have had the same post fight career as Noguiera.
 
Bones would turn prime Fedor into his little Russian mail-order bride.
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Kb7 said:
I think you over estimate the amount of money Fedor got paid throughout his career, there is a reason why he was still fighting until recently & it was because he enjoyed getting beat up.

If he fought for the UFC & was successful I have no doubt he would have had the same post fight career as Noguiera.
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The guy I was debating with compared Fedor losing to Bigfoot 11 years and 35 fights into his career to DC beating Bigfoot 6 fights and 2 years into his career and Cain beating Bigfoot 10 fights and 6 years into his career.

This wasn't about money it was about a fighters peak and the difference in their trajectories when they fought Bigfoot which is a significant element in this debate and you turned it into a debate about money. Smh.

Fedor has been making close to 2M a fight in Bellator and has had 8 fights there. That's 16M. How many UFC fighters have seen 16M in their whole career? Let alone in 8 fights?

This doesn't count what Fedor made in Strikeforce which was also close to 2M per fight and what he made in Affliction which was also in the same ballpark.

How many guys in the UFC saw that kind of bread? Now tell me more about Nogueira lol
 
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The Last King said:
The guy I was debating with compared Fedor losing to Bigfoot 11 years and 35 fights into his career to DC beating Bigfoot 6 fights and 2 years into his career and Cain beating Bigfoot 10 fights and 6 years into his career.

This wasn't about money it was about a fighters peak and the difference of their trajectories when they fought Bigfoot which is a significant element in this debate and you turned it into a debate about money. Smh.

Fedor has been making close to 2M a fight in Bellator and has had 8 fights there. That's 16M. How many UFC fighters have seen 16M in their whole careers? Let alone in 8 fights?

This doesn't count what Fedor made in Strikeforce which was also close to 2M per fight and what he made in Affliction which was also in the same ballpark.

How many guys in the UFC saw that kind of bread? Now tell me more about Nogueira lol
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Lol, at you believing Fedor made that much. But I wouldn't expect nothing less from someone as delusional as you when you talk about Fedor.

There is a reason Fedor kept fighting, it's because he needs money, Noguiera literally has a post fight career where he doesn't need to get obliterate by UFC rejects.
 
Kb7 said:
Lol, at you believing Fedor made that much. But I wouldn't expect nothing less from someone as delusional as you when you talk about Fedor.

There is a reason Fedor kept fighting, it's because he needs money, Noguiera literally has a post fight career where he doesn't need to get obliterate by UFC rejects.
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I've had dinner with Fedors manager and persosnally know Steve Bash who was Fedors attorney when Fedor fought in Affliction. So I know exactly how much he's made.

Nogueira is a one eyed CTE fossil who can't finish a sentence or hit pads without looking like a decrepit mummy. Fedor knocked out a top 20 HW in his last fight who has wins over multiple top 10 HWs in the UFC today. Fedor is 9-3 in his final 12 fights. Nogueira is a legend but didn't have the psychical capacity to keep going like Fedor.
 
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I don’t even like Jones at all, but this should be obvious. Even without the heavyweight bulk, Jones beats Fedor.
 
The Last King said:
I've had dinner with Fedors manager and persosnally know Steve Bash who was Fedors attorney when Fedor fought in Affliction. So I know exactly how much he's made unlike you who is a random toxic internet loser fueled by hate for Fedor.

Nogueira is a one eyed CTE fossil who can't finish a sentence or hit pads without looking like a decrepit mummy. Fedor knocked out a top 20 HW in his last fight who has wins over multiple top 10 HWs in the UFC today.

You're a pathetic low integrity chump like the rest of the clowns in this thread. If you had to post your pic before posting you losere would disappear from this forum forever. Cheers.
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Sure you did buddy, what does posting a pic before posting have anything to do with Fedor? Lol. Dude, you're a weirdo and your obsession with Fedor changing every single narrative about him except you deflect and can't accept the fact he fought a few cans and the moment he fought in America and with legit competition he lost. Tim Johnson is ranked closer to 50 and has NO wins against a top UFC HW currently ranked in the top 10 today.
 
That would’ve been an epic fight.

Fedor would really struggle to get within range, but if DC could have success in the clinch then Fedor would too.

Styles make fights, and a peak Jones from the 2014-2017 years is hard to bet against. He would just throw out so much vicious and calculated volume, if you don’t have the height or reach it gets really brutal and dangerous. Fedor would have his moments like DC did, except his power and speed would be even more prevalent. But Jon has so much length with an excellent clinch game and TDD.
 
The Last King said:
Yea I made all that up to argue about Fedors fighter pay with some random brokie internet loser on sherdog. There is a correlation between toxic internet trolls and fat basement dwelling losers who have never trained and don't interact with women. I'll bet my equities portfolio that you and the rest of the toxic losers in this thread fit into that category. Low life peasant behavior.

Tim Johnson beat Volkov and was robbed and also beat Tybura and Ibragimov who were both in the top 10 in the UFC in the last 2 years. Youre a dishonest low integrity chump. Cheers.
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Lol, you're a weird fella, first thing you run to is insults. I train, I have a family & I have a career. All you're doing projecting, clearly you're that basement dweller jumping ib every single Fedor thread to white knight & change narratives. Tim Johnson is not a top 20 fighter he's closer to the top 50, he hasn't beaten a top 10 HW aside from Tybura who is borderline top 10. You can't accept the fact Fedor fought less than stellar competition in Japan Circuit and the moment he fights in America against good competition, we all seen what happened.
 
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For all the clowns in this thread claiming that Fedor would have no chance of landing good shots on Jones because of his reach disadvantage. Fedor had similar frame and reach to that of DC.

The only difference is that 2005 Fedor was much faster than DC and packed more power in his punches than LHW DC. Prime Cro Cop was much faster than Jones and DC and Fedor beat him to the punch for the majority of their fight. Big Nog fought both Fedor and Cop and said that Fedor was the fastest and hardest hitting fighter hes ever fought.

Jones is lucky that he had every steroid under the sun in his system when he fought DC. It's the only way one can explain his ability to eat those shots from DC without getting badly hurt. Jones was so juiced when he fought DC that he was still pulsing with traces of steroids in his system 5 years later.

Fedor had insane speed and demonstrated the ability to land his right cross, his left hook and his right overhand in different scenarios throughout his career which leads me to believe that he would have similar success finding Jon's chin just like DC did. Jones wouldn't even be in the top 3 strikers Fedor has ever fought.

This doesn't mean Fedor would win or lose it just means that it's not insane to assume that he would have successs striking with Jones because prime 2005 Fedor was a better, faster and more powerful striker than DC. Those saying that prime 2005 Fedor would have nothing for Jones are low integrity, dishonest UFC fanboy shills who are simply insecure about Jones.
 
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You cant compare fighters in another time.
Mike tyson betas easy mohamed ali??
Its stupid and not realistic
 
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