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Jones beats Fedor 9/10 But...

JKS said:
People don't understand the combo of speed and power that Fedor hits with. There were big HW that were 280lbs+ fight time that were knocked senseless. Jon wouldn't take the punches. Fighters with good and fast hands were always his weakness. Fedor lands and good night.
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Which big skilled hw’s weighing 280+ did he knock senseless? You think the Brett rogers fight is a great example to use here?
 
Vehap1 said:
Like Reyes? like Gustafsson? One-legged santos?

Believe in the UFC-hype machine, Jones sucks, only entered HW as soon as Francis left
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Reyes- Had success in a close fight that he lost.

Santos- Lost the fight. His knee was fked up when he missed a leg kick that Jon avoided (good work Bones)

Alex- Lost the fight.The 5th and final round was the one Bones needed to win and was the round he won. He was then obliterated in the rematch.

To your other point, I’m sure the UFC was trying to make that fight and we all know about the fiasco that went on with Ngannou’s contract! The UFC was only going to have Jones in a title fight (nothing else). The UFC was held up with Francis’ negotiations for a year from his last fight.

So my question is, mom, sister, girlfriend or all? Which one did he sleep with?
 
JKS said:
Reyes and Gustaffson! Come on, how can you miss that. Those were his closest fights.
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Ok how tall is Fedor compared to those guys. You are missing a whole part of the equation.
 
kflo said:
Which big skilled hw’s weighing 280+ did he knock senseless? You think the Brett rogers fight is a great example to use here?
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I am talking about power here. The fact that Fedor was able to put out big HWs and drop guys like Sylvia with his speed and power is certainly worth mentioning. Rogers wasn't a great HW by any means, but he was a big HW and got put out cold. That shot lands on Jones and it's lights out.
 
NoSmilez said:
Ok how tall is Fedor compared to those guys. You are missing a whole part of the equation.
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Reyes and Fedor have the same reach and Reyes has a few inches in height. Fedor never had issues getting inside on taller fighters. Look how quickly he landed on Sylvia who was 6'8 with a 80+ reach. Guys like Santos and Cormier who are shorter with a smaller reach were able to get in on Jones. Look how well Cormier did getting inside.
 
Recency bias of course.

Prime for Prime i actually think Prime Jon Jones is the most dangerous fighter against Prime Fedor. I still can't bet against Prime Fedor because he has so many ways to win.

Prime for Prime i say Fedor wins 70% of the fights.

Jon Jones is very talented, in my opinion maybe the most talented since Anderson Silva or GSP.
 
JKS said:
Reyes and Fedor have the same reach and Reyes has a few inches in height. Fedor never had issues getting inside on taller fighters. Look how quickly he landed on Sylvia who was 6'8 with a 80+ reach. Guys like Santos and Cormier who are shorter with a smaller reach were able to get in on Jones. Look how well Cormier did getting inside.
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Are you serious or trolling?
 
OldBoy91 said:
Fedor fans are not rational people. Its weird how good posters turn into smooth brained retards any time Fedor's name gets brought up.
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I'm a Fedor fan and I agree with you. Fans seem incapable of viewing fighters in context. Fedor was the best HW of his time but his time was only in the early to mid 2000s. His last great performance, in my opinion, was against Tim Sylvia way back in 2008. Sure he had highlights afterwards but after that, he negelcted his ground game, started to headhunt and then his chin went. He fought for another 15years.
 
JKS said:
People don't understand the combo of speed and power that Fedor hits with. There were big HW that were 280lbs+ fight time that were knocked senseless. Jon wouldn't take the punches. Fighters with good and fast hands were always his weakness. Fedor lands and good night.
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Which legit fighter was knocked 'senseless' by Fedor again?

Apart from a hail mary punch KO against Arlovski (who was outstriking Fedor with ease before the KO), Fedor has literally never knocked any legit fighter senseless during his prime.

This is evidence that Fedor stans are often not only delusional, but also disingenuous in their argumentation.
 
MartinBrowntree said:
Which legit fighter was knocked 'senseless' by Fedor again?

Apart from a hail mary punch KO against Arlovski (who was outstriking Fedor with ease before the KO), Fedor has literally never knocked anyone legit, senseless during his prime.

This is evidence that Fedor stans are often not only delusional, but also disingenuous in their argumentation.
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We're talking about power here. The fact he was able to drop big HWs like Sylvia with his power shots, a guy like Arlovkski was put out cold. A 280+ lb Rogers was put out cold. That is the factor here, power. Those guys go down, what do you think he will happen to Jones?

And I like how you automatically bring up Fedor fans. I am not even a big Fedor fan, I am just as much a Jones fan. I don't even have Fedor in the top 3 greatest of all time, I have Jones at #1. But I am calling this right down the middle. I think Fedor would knock him out.
 
NoSmilez said:
You really think Jon's weakness is when someone gets close to him? Do you watch his fights? You really think Fedor can just waltz in and put Jon out?
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Yes, I've seen every single one of his fights. What I've seen is a guy who has issues with fighters who have good and fast hands. Have a look at the second Cormier fight and how a 5'11 fighter with a 72" reach got in on Jones with good footwork and handspeed. Cormier was walking Jones down and landing power shots consistently.

And yes, I do think that Fedor would walk in and KO him. I think after finding his rhythm he would land a power shot and finish Jon off. All it takes is one my friend.
 
Vehap1 said:
Like Reyes? like Gustafsson? One-legged santos?

Believe in the UFC-hype machine, Jones sucks, only entered HW as soon as Francis left
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This argument doesn't work when listing 3 people Jones has a win over lol
 
JKS said:
Yes, I've seen every single one of his fights. What I've seen is a guy who has issues with fighters who have good and fast hands. Have a look at the second Cormier fight and how a 5'11 fighter with a 72" reach got in on Jones with good footwork and handspeed. Cormier was walking Jones down and landing power shots consistently.

And yes, I do think that Fedor would walk in and KO him. I think after finding his rhythm he would land a power shot and finish Jon off. All it takes is one my friend.
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Ok I am done. Your analysis of interesting. Jones will get knocked out easily and finished. Just like that.
 
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