Jones beats Fedor 9/10 But...

[BFoe]

Jones beats Fedor 10/10 but Fedor is still godlike and a GOAT

Damn man, O Ye of Little Faith. 10/10???
We’ve seen Jones fight at HW exactly one time. He subs a grappling white belt in 2 mins and that means he beats prime Fedor 10/10 times? Sheesh.

 

[The XL]

Hilarious that we're still talking about this fat guy who got KOed by a 40 year old middleweight, nearly got KOed by Fujita, and nearly got submitted by Mark fucking Hunt(lmao) as the greatest at anything. Most overrated fighter in the history of combat sports, and by quite a comfortable margin.

 

[Guffman]

Recency bias

The" Bones is invincible" recency bias on this forum is off the charts right now.

 

[StonedLemur]

Again. You are playing a game entirely your own and talking out of your ass again.

"You seem to be saying Vitor would beat Fedor"

Stop right there. Where did I say or even imply this? I said Vitor is a better fighter than fighters Fedor struggled against, and is less of an embarrassment for Jones to have almost got caught in an armbar against him than for Fedor to get controlled on the ground and almost keylocked by Mark Hunt who didn't even train on the ground at the time.

You seem to be chronically unable to stop using your ass to talk.

Ok sir, I feel the same way about every post you made in this thread, yet I don't have to talk shit to do it.
You speak in absolutes about Fedor and Jon and there is no way of proving what you say.

Im merely saying you can't just dismiss Fedor because he had a hard time with a couple of guys, because Jon had harder times with lesser fighters.

You don't need to reply, because you look silly trying to talk to my ass.

 

[BFoe]

Fedor would lose to most of Jones opponents, even OSP. Fedor wins over Chael and Rampage both looked like works.

lmao wtf. Rampage was so out of shape he could barely move, they hardly needed to work that fight. If Chael was taking a dive, he could’ve just done it in the first 5 seconds after Fedor sent a missile into his jaw.

I guess Bader must not like piles of money, and just refused to work a fight? Lmao, a fairytale ending for Fedor’s career would’ve been nice, why didn’t they work that fight? Instead they choose to fix Fedor vs fucking Rampage??! <Lmaoo>

 

[OldBoy91]

Ok sir, I feel the same way about every post you made in this thread, yet I don't have to talk shit to do it.
You speak in absolutes about Fedor and Jon and there is no way of proving what you say.

Im merely saying you can't just dismiss Fedor because he had a hard time with a couple of guys, because Jon had harder times with lesser fighters.

You don't need to reply, because you look silly trying to talk to my ass.

I haven't spoken in any absolutes. I also don't need to talk shit, it's just easy to when you are being this wilfully ignorant and constantly making shit up in order to try to have some semblance of a point.

And lol at Jones struggling against lesser fighters than Feodr did. Nobidh Jones had issues with is as bad as Fujita, Maldonado etc. Hunt was a novice on the ground, no the ground was where he has Fedor in trouble. Meanwhile Vitor was a Carson Gracie black belt. You try to equate the two as though they are similar situations. They are not.

I have not dismissed Fedor at all, I have said, having seen both of their careers play out, I think Jones beats him more often than not. The best Jones absolutely beats the best Fedor. You didn't like my opinion and proceeded to claim I've never seen Fedor fight and just saw highlights. I called you out and you've still not addressed it since.

 

[Prince Nephilim]

Damn man, O Ye of Little Faith. 10/10???
We’ve seen Jones fight at HW exactly one time. He subs a grappling white belt in 2 mins and that means he beats prime Fedor 10/10 times? Sheesh.

There is zero indication that Fedor can beat Jon Jones at any point of his career.

DC beats Fedor 8/10 times (that’s fair) so I give Jones 10/10.

How many times has anyone flat out beat Jones…Jones is virtually Undefeated…on a bad day he finishes Fedor. Stop following false gods

 

[GIBLERTBAPTISTA]

Fedor would lose to most of Jones opponents, even OSP. Fedor wins over Chael and Rampage both looked like works.

Lmao Gane v Jones looked more fixed than either of those.

Also you definitely lick windows if you think OSP has anything for prime Fedor

 

[BFoe]

There is zero indication that Fedor can beat Jon Jones at any point of his career.

DC beats Fedor 9/10 times so I give Jones 10/10.

How many times has anyone flat out beat Jones…Jones is virtually Undefeated…one a bad day he finishes Fedor. Stop following false gods…ye of little faith

No one flat out beat Fedor in his first 28 fights either. Everyone will get beat if they stick around long enough.

But it’s not possible to debate with someone’s imagination. If your logic is that you imagine DC beats Fedor 9/10, therefore it makes sense to imagine that Jones beats Fedor 10/10, what is anyone supposed to say to that? Imagine away, man.

 

[Prince Nephilim]

No one flat out beat Fedor in his first 28 fights either. Everyone will get beat if they stick around long enough.

But it’s not possible to debate with someone’s imagination. If your logic is that you imagine DC beats Fedor 9/10, therefore it makes sense to imagine that Jones beats Fedor 10/10, what is anyone supposed to say to that? Imagine away, man.

I don’t have to imagine…we live in a world where Jones hasn’t been beat and Fedor has been pancaked face down ass up.

Fedor fought nowhere near the level of competition Jones has in MMA. The greater of Fedors record is padded with absolute nobodies.

Jones never fought Zulu’s and TK at the height of his career…check the stats. You still living in the dead past, hanging on to Pride fantasy world logic. That’s why you’re fighting a lost battle.

 

[NoSmilez]

Not a knock on Fedor. He is from a different time. It's not a skill issue. He gives up weight because he is very skillful. The gap between Jon and him isn't that wide to do so. 5'10-5'11 heavyweights aren't competitive at HW anymore. Fedor has fought men bigger than him but guys like Choi and Zulu were not skilled. People on the forum used to give Fedor a ton of props for beating Choi. Something about Korean wrestling+GP champion. They didn't watch those events.

Fedor loses to Jones but it doesn't change what Fedor has achieved. He fought the best of his time for a long time too.

 

[ComfortablyNumb55]

So Jones beats peak Fedor after arguably losing to Reyes, taking three years off because he knew LHW was catching up, and then beating the worst UFC wrestler on the roster?



Peak Fedor would drop a bomb on his head and he'd be removed from consciousness.

 

[Guffman]

Lmao Gane v Jones looked more fixed than either of those.

Also you definitely lick windows if you think OSP has anything for prime Fedor

Don't believe it, but it did cross my mind at the time.

 

[kalabula]

And the debate rages on. It’d probably be a close fight. It’d be cool if odds makers made odds for hypothetical fights, for fighters in their primes. My guess, Jon would be around -165 or something.

 

[MMA Maine-iac]

Who's easier to trigger, Fedor fans or BJ fans?

 

[MartinGibson86]

Jones wouldn’t hang under pride rules with a 10 minute first round at HW and multiple fights in one tournament.

You mean Minowa, Yoshida, and Wand---Mirko's run to the mythical GP finals---?


He crushes all 3 on the same night

 

[OldBoy91]

Who's easier to trigger, Fedor fans or BJ fans?

Fedor fans. You don't even have to insult or underrate his career to get them foaming at the mouth.

You can say "Fedor was amazing, absolutely the best of his era, but he certainly wasn't unbeatable like some people like to think" and your replies will be filled with mouth breathing idiots REEEEing.

BJ fans were nuts, but fewer in number and didn't lash out because you said don't think he was perfect ENOUGH like Fedor zealots do.

 

[BFoe]

I don’t have to imagine…we live in a world where Jones hasn’t been beat and Fedor has been pancaked face down ass up.

Fedor fought nowhere near the level of competition Jones has in MMA. The greater of Fedors record is padded with absolute nobodies.

Jones never fought Zulu’s and TK at the height of his career…check the stats. You still living in the dead past, hanging on to Pride fanboy logic. That’s why you’re fighting a lost battle.

Fedor also has just as many ranked wins as Jones, and as many UFC champs’ heads on his wall as Jones despite never fighting in the UFC.

Again, the logic of “Fedor eventually lost and Jones hasn’t yet, therefore current HW Jones beats prime Fedor” makes absolutely no sense at all. I’m no boxing expert, but I certainly wouldn’t claim that Marciano beats Muhammad Ali 100% of the time simply because Ali has some losses on his record and Marciano doesn’t.

But that’s Sherdog for you. Leading up to the Jones fight, we all noticed he looked flabby, slow, slow on the pads, and people even wondered if he was injured. Jones quickly subs an absolute noob grappler, so that must mean he beats the absolute best, and one of the most well-rounded, HWs in MMA history 100% of the time. Good lord.

 

[B-Level]

lolololol @ this shit

People call themselves Fedor fans,and throw it in trash and bendover cos Jones submitted s kickboxer w no ground game

OOOOOOOOOO shiny!

Jones subbing Gane while taking no damage at age 35 is a lot more impressive than Fedor getting KO’d by a 40 year old MW while fedor was 34.

 

[Superzorro]

All those attacks Fedor used to get on people like arm bars from bottom, sweeps, reversals, they don’t happen as much in elite MMA anymore for whatever reason. I’m not sure if it has to do with overall skill increasing or the opposite. It seems tactically safer to be a wrestler on top with GNP. Because of that, I would probably favor Jones in his prime. But it’s a tough fight either way. Fedor definitely beats current, fat Jones. In their primes, it’s kind of like GSP vs Silva in the sense of technical superiority, fighting safe and good defense vs speed, power, reflex, killer instinct etc. But idk, tough call.