Jones beats Fedor 9/10 But...

HHJ said:
almost doesnt count for shit.
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I mean, you'd think "the GOAT" wouldn't struggle on the ground with a pure striker or do the chicken dance against an overmatched pro wrestler but It definitely shows that he was never unbeatable, even during his prime. He had issues against fighters that are nowhere close to being on Jones' level.

But let's go to his actual losses then. Submitted by Werdum, no shame in that.

TKOed by Bigfoot, no shame in that either, TRT Bigfoot was a beast. Not the best by any stretch as proven by his brutal losses to Cain twice, and against Cormier, Werdum etc, but he was good.

KTFO by middleweight Dan Henderson who had to bulk and struggled to make 206 the day of weigh ins. KTFO by Mitrione, KTFO twice by Bader. Got the shit kicked out of him by Maldonado.

This guy ain't beating Jon Jones. I like Fedor a lot more than I like Jon, but they just aren't in the same league. Jones is in a league on his own.
 
OldBoy91 said:
I mean, you'd think "the GOAT" wouldn't struggle on the ground with a pure striker or do the chicken dance against an overmatched pro wrestler but It definitely shows that he was never unbeatable, even during his prime. He had issues against fighters that are nowhere close to being on Jones' level.

But let's go to his actual losses then. Submitted by Werdum, no shame in that.

TKOed by Bigfoot, no shame in that either, TRT Bigfoot was a beast. Not the best by any stretch as proven by his brutal losses to Cain twice, and against Cormier, Werdum etc, but he was good.

KTFO by middleweight Dan Henderson who had to bulk and struggled to make 206 the day of weigh ins. KTFO by Mitrione, KTFO twice by Bader. Got the shit kicked out of him by Maldonado.

This guy ain't beating Jon Jones. I like Fedor a lot more than I like Jon, but they just aren't in the same league. Jones is in a league on his own.
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Because he subbed Gane?
 
Jones would be significantly weaker in Pride with a lot less space to move in the ring. Distance and lenght have allways been the biggest assets of Jones, and he would lose a lot of that in smaller square ring. Jones is almost impossible to reach in big octagon, but it would be different ballgame in the ring. Also he would lose elbows which are one of his main weapons.

Someone like Santos just missed him by an inch in the octagon, but would hit Jones in the corner of the ring.
Jones is a lot easier and more beatable in the ring and Pride rules than in UFC cage.
 
That lounging punch in the gif would be easily countered by Jones. Bader did it twice.
 
HHJ said:
Because he subbed Gane?
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No, because of what I've seen from both throughout their whole careers.

I actually agree that Gane win is very meh and means very little going forward.

Though I find it funny Fedor zealots of all people are talking about Jon's wins. The same people who touted Jaideep Singh and Brett Rogers and Gary Goodridge as legit impressive wins for Fedor.

Gane would be like Fedor's 10th best win. He's a better fighter than anyone Fedor fought post PRIDE and better than a good number of guys Fedor fought in PRIDE.
 
HHJ said:
lolololol @ this shit

People call themselves Fedor fans,and throw it in trash and bendover cos Jones submitted s kickboxer w no ground game

OOOOOOOOOO shiny!
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We already know the truth sir, no sense in trying to get it through to thick skulls that will only believe they are right no matter what you say.
 
OldBoy91 said:
Fedor was amazing but he was almost KTFO by a Japanese pro wrestler and almost submitted by a version of Mark Hunt that didn't even train bjj at the time.

Jones would have dismantled him.
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FFS Fedor was not almost submitted by Mark Hunt <45>

It’s always interesting to me how people bring up the Fujita fight, when it’s the only example of Fedor being rocked by a strike in a decade of fighting HW. The lesson should be that such a thing was exceedingly rare, but somehow people conclude that it’s the likely outcome lol.

Fujita hit like a truck, Jones doesn’t. Prime Fedor vs prime Jones will always be debatable, but Fedor at his best against the HW version of Jones we just saw? Come on now. Fedor is too fast, too explosive, hits way harder than Jones, and would not be submitted by Jones either. If Jon could fight smart, maybe Fedor would only decision him. If Jones makes a mistake, Fedor either knocks his head off or takes home a limb like Vitor almost did.
 
BFoe said:
FFS Fedor was not almost submitted by Mark Hunt <45>

It’s always interesting to me how people bring up the Fujita fight, when it’s the only example of Fedor being rocked by a strike in a decade of fighting HW. The lesson should be that such a thing was exceedingly rare, but somehow people conclude that it’s the likely outcome lol.

Fujita hit like a truck, Jones doesn’t. Prime Fedor vs prime Jones will always be debatable, but Fedor at his best against the HW version of Jones we just saw? Come on now. Fedor is too fast, too explosive, hits way harder than Jones, and would not be submitted by Jones either. If Jon could fight smart, maybe Fedor would only decision him. If Jones makes a mistake, Fedor either knocks his head off or takes home a limb like Vitor almost did.
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They bring up Hunt but never mention Vitor, a guy that's really only known for striking damn near tearing Jon's arm off.
Its always funny reading these threads because you can tell most of them didn't watch Fedor, but highlights or gifs sir lol.
 
StonedLemur said:
They bring up Hunt but never mention Vitor, a guy that's really only known for striking damn near tearing Jon's arm off.
Its always funny reading these threads because you can tell most of them didn't watch Fedor, but highlights or gifs sir lol.
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Yeah. I mean, I agree that it’s not like Fedor was unbeatable. But watch the Vitor, Gus, Santos, and Reyes fights and it’s clear that Jones isn’t unbeatable either. His performance against Gane was very impressive, but I predicted Jones to win by sub for a reason: Gane is a fucking white belt, and I knew if/when Jones got him down he was gonna get eaten alive. It’s a mistake to assume Jones can just go around doing that to people.
 
StonedLemur said:
They bring up Hunt but never mention Vitor, a guy that's really only known for striking damn near tearing Jon's arm off.
Its always funny reading these threads because you can tell most of them didn't watch Fedor, but highlights or gifs sir lol.
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Juiced up Vitor is 10x the fighter that any version of Fujita was and a damn sight more dangerous on the ground than Hunt was at any point in his career, let alone in PRIDE.

And yeah, I watched Fedor and PRIDE back when they actually happened. Gomi is still my favourite fighter of all time due to his run through Bushido.

Stop talking about shit you know nothing about.


Sir.
 
Vehap1 said:
Like Reyes? like Gustafsson? One-legged santos?

Believe in the UFC-hype machine, Jones sucks, only entered HW as soon as Francis left
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Jon won all three of the fights you mentioned!
 
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