Jones beats Fedor 9/10 But...

[TrueFightFan]

Fedor would lose to most of Jones opponents, even OSP. Fedor wins over Chael and Rampage both looked like works.

Are you saying that Fedor's wins over Sonnen and Jackson looked like jones' win over Gane?

Hmmm... you might be on to something.

 

[Yellowcrab]

You’re such a shill omg. My blood is boiling rn. You do realize Hendo should’ve lost by DQ due to rabbit punches?? U can’t hit the back of the head, period. If ur gonna make an argument, at least be honest & not be a weasel

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

But this version of Fedor would beat the current version of Bones.
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Also Bones has to be at his peak to win!

I agree with OP that this version of Fedor is the GOAT.
As to the other points:
Jones popped for PEDs
Fedor never popped for PEDs
The advantageous effects of PEDs can last for life and at the very least last multiple decades.
A drug cheat should never be considered GOAT.
Jones has only beaten a literal white belt in his HW debut. Let's let him get a couple of fights at HW before we decide how he would do against the undisputed GOAT of the division.

 

[The Last King]

So do you think 2005 Fedor loses to Hendo?


How would you explain Hendo getting mopped by Minotauro?


What does Fedor losing 11 years into his career have to do with a prime Jones vs prime Fedor discussion?

 

[RageQuitLord]

Jon Jones lost to a one legged Maretta and got battered by Dominic reyes View attachment 973532

What were you saying again?

Jon Jones is undefeated he won every fight.

 

[Yellowcrab]

 

[fica]

jon beats nobody especially fedor. fedor mentality is go after it and not sit and wait for right moment how many fights have i seen fedor he throws haymaker guy tries to grab him he frees him self it woudld be like that with jj

 

[Benny 97]

GSP himself considers Fedor the GOAT. But some peasant ufc shill on the internet says otherwise right?! Also those were SHOTS TO THE BACK OF THE HEAD. And u know what else?…. HENDO WAS ON TRT, same with bigfoot silva

 

[Benny 97]

jon beats nobody especially fedor. fedor mentality is go after it and not sit and wait for right moment how many fights have i seen fedor he throws haymaker guy tries to grab him he frees him self it woudld be like that with jj

Nothing but facts my g

 

[Benny 97]

I love how the gif immediately cuts off as soon as Hendo lands a rabbit punch. I guess that fits your narrative… peasant?

 

[Benny 97]

Jon Jones is undefeated he won every fight.

 

[Yellowcrab]

Also, there's the extremely false narrative in this thread that's it's only between Jones and Fedor.

Actually, Fedor would have had a record probably as bad as Mirko in the UFC and several UFC fighters would beat him in BOTH LHW and HW division.

Fedor is irrelevant in modern MMA, it's not only about Jon Jones, but against other UFC fighters.

 

[ilfirin]

Prime Fedor fucking destroys any version of Jonathan.

 

[Benny 97]

Also, there's the extremely false narrative in this thread that's it's only between Jones and Fedor.

Actually, Fedor would have had a record probably as bad as Mirko in the UFC and several UFC fighters would beat him in BOTH LHW and HW division.

Fedor is irrelevant in modern MMA, it's not only about Jon Jones, but against other UFC fighters.

Ok serious question. Are you a troll or a peasant?

 

[Yellowcrab]

I love how the gif immediately cuts off as soon as Hendo lands a rabbit punch. I guess that fits your narrative… peasant?

Because the fight was already over with that punch

 

[The Last King]

Because the fight was already over with that punch

What does this fight have to do with the discussion of 2005 Fedor vs 2011-2015 Jones?

Do you think Hendo would beat a 2005 Fedor? If so why did Hendo get mopped by Big Nog?

 

[Benny 97]

WAR FEDOR
WARRIOR OF THE NIGHT

Come back. We need you to help us destroy these ufc shills

 

[BFoe]

Dude, drom memory and without looking at FF i said, "...in the midst of LIKE a 1-8 run"


It was 1-6


His 6-2 run leading into Fedor fwatured MWs Babalu, Ninja, and the mirko fluke .and he was finushed in 2 of 3 prior to Fedor.

He waz 17-16 career and lost bt standing guillotine to Mirko lol


This is the man you're comparing to Bones.

And yes, using Randlemans creds as somehow indicative of what Fedor could do against Bones means you are directly comparing Randleman to Bones

And here comes more dishonesty…. Come on Martin, you can be honest if you try, i have faith in you. Regarding these wrestling credentials, I said:

If what you want is some sort of imagination and conjecture as to who would or wouldn’t outwrestle him in an imaginary fantasy fight, I don’t really see the point in that. Fedor has fought several guys with better wrestling credentials than Jones, and those guys—particularly Coleman and Randleman—used their wrestling very well in MMA. Fedor beat those guys, all 3 of the ones I named on the ground, in fact. That’s really all you can say.

My entire point about that dude’s “wrestling in an MMA setting” schtick is that it’s NOT indicative of how a Jones-Fedor fight would go. The dude’s question was meaningless. If the question is, “Has Fedor ever fought anyone with better wrestling credentials?”—then the answer is yes. He beat those 3 fighters I named. He also lost to one: Dan Henderson. Actually, that jogs my memory because Hendo didn’t qualify for the Olympics because he was beaten by Matt Lindland. I didn’t list Lindland previously, but that would be another fighter with better wrestling credentials than Jones. Bader too, I suppose, but the Fedor-Bader fights were so past Fedor’s prime I don’t see how they’re relevant, really. Certainly not relevant to this thread topic.

—Anyway, none of that shit is indicative of how Fedor vs Jones would go, that’s my point.

Regarding this business of Randleman’s record at the time of the Fedor fight, what I’m criticizing is the dishonest spin you put on Randleman’s record. Bald Goof Dana loves to do the same thing regarding Hunt. Mark Hunt was 5-2 overall, 4-1 in his previous 5, consisting of a 4 fight win streak that included Wandy and Mirko, with a loss to Barnett in a title eliminator, going into the Fedor fight. Dana loves to say that Fedor “fought Hunt as part of a 6 fight losing streak,” because of the losses that came after, which is a super dishonest way to spin Hunt’s record.

I guess I should start saying Jones fought Lionheart “as part of” a 1-3 skid, or OSP as part of a 1-4 skid, Reyes as part of an 0-4 skid, Gustafsson as part of a 1-3 skid the first time and 0-4 skid the second time…
It’s just a dishonest way to manipulate a fighter’s record.

 

[HHJ]

Come back. We need you to help us destroy these ufc shills

Look for me on the light of the 5th day

 

[BFoe]

Serious wuestion: Do you and TheLastKing argue over what to wear?


Fedor was a can crusher. Get over it, Cybil

A can crusher, and yet it’s only now, after 15 years of fighting, that Jones finally got as many ranked wins as Fedor has.
Took him long enough.