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That was very enjoyable. This will turn out to be a mega thread. Every episode.
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This is good news. we need more Liberal Democrats in TV
Is it not gonna be a "weekly" show? Rotating hosts for an actual "daily" show, sounds like a disaster. I don't know how they'd maintain an audience with that format. It'd be a clusterfuck.
"success" for this sort of show is very different now vs. when Stewart originally left the Daily Show
His Apple+ shows were good and some of the clips did really well on social media but the fact is that most content on Apple+ is not watched by anybody. Stewart may have left over editorial disagreements but Apple+ itself was not a good platform if he wanted to be seen by a lot of people. It was a good deal for him in that he got paid well to do a relatively small number of episodes that fit his schedule. Audience reach? Not at all.
Comedy Central was relevant 10 years ago. Now it is just another zombie cable channel trying to coax the last years of cash out of the declining cable bundle. Paramount is up for sale. The Daily Show is probably the last useful brand for the channel and it decreases in value every day because there are fewer US cable subscribers every day.
Stewart brings a boost of attention. He will probably help ratings. It gives him a better platform to get content onto social media. It is a good deal for both parties but it definitely won't mean a return to the cable tv ecosystem of 2014.
I watched a 7.5 minute clip on social media. I thought he was good. Stewart remains as talented as ever. What has changed is the entire distribution model for these sorts of shows.
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"success" for this sort of show is very different now vs. when Stewart originally left the Daily Show
His Apple+ shows were good and some of the clips did really well on social media but the fact is that most content on Apple+ is not watched by anybody. Stewart may have left over editorial disagreements but Apple+ itself was not a good platform if he wanted to be seen by a lot of people. It was a good deal for him in that he got paid well to do a relatively small number of episodes that fit his schedule. Audience reach? Not at all.
Comedy Central was relevant 10 years ago. Now it is just another zombie cable channel trying to coax the last years of cash out of the declining cable bundle. Paramount is up for sale. The Daily Show is probably the last useful brand for the channel and it decreases in value every day because there are fewer US cable subscribers every day.
Stewart brings a boost of attention. He will probably help ratings. It gives him a better platform to get content onto social media. It is a good deal for both parties but it definitely won't mean a return to the cable tv ecosystem of 2014.
I watched a 7.5 minute clip on social media. I thought he was good. Stewart remains as talented as ever. What has changed is the entire distribution model for these sorts of shows.
I think you hit the nail on the head. These shows are not that different from cable news networksThe problem with a show like this nowadays, is that it's hardly different from a cable news network show, or a Late Night talk show. It was fresh when it came out(even though it was basically "Weekend Update" from SNL). Every network has their own version of this show now. Everyone's doing that schtick now. Gonna be hard to stand out, and bringing old man Stewart back, makes it look even more tired.
The problem with a show like this nowadays, is that it's hardly different from a cable news network show, or a Late Night talk show. It was fresh when it came out(even though it was basically "Weekend Update" from SNL). Every network has their own version of this show now. Everyone's doing that schtick now. Gonna be hard to stand out, and bringing old man Stewart back, makes it look even more tired.
Exactly. They need someone “credible” to attack Trump for the 25-50 demographic that no longer watches mainstream news. They hope Stewart can bring them back into the fold
Problem is he isn’t funny anymore, never really was, and his recent show was a flop
Plus part of the problem was creative difference because he couldn’t attack China, COVId policy, etc. Yet now he will prove to be a huge sellout propping up China Joe
Yeah god forbid anyone say anything about china, it's not like they have their own horrible authoritarian stateYoung people already hate Trump. They just don't want to hear about him 24/7 and prioritize fighting him over fighting systems. What the establishment are really looking for is getting young people to act like its 2012 and be enthusiastic about capitalist dems like Biden and Obama. And there is absolutley nothing Stewart can say to people that have checked out that will accomplish that.
If he attacks China I will not watch him though.
Stewart is a bit less less normie and capitalist than those. There are people who find late night to be an insufferable genre and can not watch a single segment of Colbert who can stoumach watching Stewart.
And yes Stewart is responsible for the careers of many of said insufferable people like Colbert(the rest have flamed out by now) but that isn't reflected in his content. Hes a normie celeb but hes really trying his dambdnest not to be and that sincerity carries a certain charm with it even if it ultimatly falls short. That sincerity is sorely lacking in the genre. Conan avoids politics almost entirely so he doesn't count.
Stewart was also responsible for indirectly elevating the career of Tucker Carlson.
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Tbh I think Stewarts takedown of Carlson and Carlsons later rise were completley unrelated. Carlson introduced Bill O Reillys audience to the concept of questioning shit. Thats what made him a star he was giving the Fox News audience content that directly contradicted their regular programming. Carlson on crossfire was just another partisan hack like Stewart said he was.