Jon Jones' UFC career officially over?

[dragonsfly]

I think his done for good he was even fading in the end and struggling with fighters he normally dispatches... Meaning he was exiting his prime but most people just didn't notice that because his normally at very high level in his prime plus when his in top shape.. meaning the Jones that fought the last 3 times was not prime Jones..

Even if he was to return which is highly unlikely he will run into to many Ls besides a long time has now past since he fought last time. That Window of him returning has closed..

I like Jones but if he returns out of prime to heavyweight he will get laid out silly which I don't want to ever see that.. I see him as a mythical fighter and I want it to stay that way

 

[Morris88]

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[Gigaton Punch]

Jon wouldn't beat Gane or Francis
He might struggle with Stipe as well but both are past their best so hard to tell. Too much inactivity from both to judge
Jon has not looked nearly as good against people around his size and just the last few years of his career in general. He looked much worse after the second test fail

 

[JBJ was here]

I don't think Jon Jones is finished regardless of the current state of the HW division. He can beat likely all of that respective roster if he wants. I fkin dislike Jon Jones, but that's my opinion.

If Jones take to move to heavyweight seriously - and he seems to be training properly for the move, adding bulk and strength slowly so he can keep all his skills up to pace with his increased size along the way - he's immediately the best kicker in the division, best grappler in the division, has the best speed and reach in the division, and is near the top in pretty much everything else except standing, non-clinch boxing. If he is serious about fighting at HW he'll fight for the right money; if not, he won't. Love him or hate him, the idea that his decision on whether to fight at HW is going to change based on who is the champion is just silly.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

I tend to agree that he does have a price for his 0, but it's nothing the UFC would ever pay and he knows it. So in that sense, is he being transparent or is just a ruse, like many people think?

I guess we’ll see. If he never fights again you’ll have a strong case for sure.

 

[Captain Herb]

come on now, DC was not "built for HW".
If anything he looked far healthier and in-shape at LHW.
Matter of fact, Fat DC looked terrible against Miocic on their last 2 fights.

And again, you have no clue what to expect from Jon at HW.
He can completely change his style, or remain much as Gane, fighting from outside. his style is different than anyone Gane or Francis fought.
To claim Jon, a fighter who has one loss (and due to DQ no less) has no chance against some neophyte like Gane is not only a disrespect, but flat out blind hate.

DC may have been healthier at LHW but his advantages in fighting were at HW because of his relative speed there. His chin and KO power were also good for HW. (We know Jon has no power in his hands and we don't know if his chin would hold up there). No one looks that great just before retirement, and probably has something to do with why they did retire. Conversely, Jon looked slow and sluggish putting on all that weight and his body proportions were a little comical. He was probably right all these years, saying he belonged at LHW. As for Gane, I would hardly call him a neophyte, he's something like 10-0 MMA and 15-0 Kickboxing

 

[sb413197]

Unless Jon spends his money on inhalable powders at such an extreme rate that he runs his bank account dry and is no longer able to purchase it, I don't see him coming back to fight

 

[Captain Herb]

I see it the opposite. Jones has no shot against Francis, and could go shot for shot with Gane.

We don't know if Jones has anything to stop a HW from walking him down. At least with Ngannou, Jones could run around and hope he gasses. With Cyril I don't think that's an option, plus Cyril does everything Jon does, but better and has HW power

 

[Skandal]

There are plenty of his fights to rewatch and he is not what he used to be.

 

[BForrester]

whatever you say hater.

Keep crying, or whatever the fuck this is

Ad hominem...the last refuge of someone with no argument.

 

[GordonMMARamsey]

Lol what?

 

[GordonMMARamsey]

"There is no way Jones can win"


Might as well change the discussion to "Was Jones ever good?"

 

[mmaknight]

If Jones take to move to heavyweight seriously - and he seems to be training properly for the move, adding bulk and strength slowly so he can keep all his skills up to pace with his increased size along the way - he's immediately the best kicker in the division, best grappler in the division, has the best speed and reach in the division, and is near the top in pretty much everything else except standing, non-clinch boxing. If he is serious about fighting at HW he'll fight for the right money; if not, he won't. Love him or hate him, the idea that his decision on whether to fight at HW is going to change based on who is the champion is just silly.

On point.

 

[jx820]

Of all the things that could be problem for Jon (milage, age, ring rust, mental health, contract issues, usada) I'd consider Gane pretty low risk.

If Gane ever beat Jones in a fight, the last thing I'd be inclined to think is "wow, Gane is such a dominant fighter". I'd immediately gravitate to "76 championship rounds is apparently one too many", "Eleven years at Jon's level is just too much" or "damn Jon's really lost the magic".

 

[Natural Order]

I don't think Jones has any form of noteworthy power at HW. I don't think he's gained anything of significance, at least nothing more than a relative gain with general mass. There's something in his upper body movement that has always been rigid and prevents fluidity in boxing motions. Doesn't generate much power and never really did as far as I can tell. Not to say simple fundamentals can't beat power all day, just that a typical trait is probably missing here.

However I think if he used his fight IQ and kept almost every encounter with the same gameplan of dragging it to the ground quickly and looking for the easy armbar or rnc he could find success, even without the typical power needed at that weight class. He plays paddy-cake in the pocket with the big boys and it could be a quick return to the pillow fists of Anthony Smith! Could be wrong, hopefully he's improved his game there. All hypothetical still though, as we're now into a decade of him pretending he's going to fight at these weights.

 

[Jon's Drug Dealer]

I'm sure his USADA suspension will end at some point this year.

 

[icemun]

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I'm sure his USADA suspension will end at some point this year.

Fantasy u crafted?

 

[djacobox372]

Jon wouldn't beat Gane or Francis
He might struggle with Stipe as well but both are past their best so hard to tell. Too much inactivity from both to judge
Jon has not looked nearly as good against people around his size and just the last few years of his career in general. He looked much worse after the second test fail

Francis only has a punchers chance in the first couple rounds against Jones, then he's dead meat. And Jones has fought a long line of danerous strikers and never really been in trouble, or hurt.

 

[Billthebutcher]

jon should fight bkfc.

 

[Cowboy Kurt Angle]

Jones was confident Stipe was gonna beat Francis. And when he got koed Jones was like well I need money. If Francis wins Jones doesn’t fight him. Francis loses he will just say haha yeah your shit your not gonna fight me now like he said against Izzy