Jon Jones' main weakness vs Miocic

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In my opinion, it wasn’t about speed as a whole. I’ve just rewatched the fight — probably for the 7th time, lol — focusing mainly on the moments when Stipe was attacking with strikes.

Jon’s attacks were definitely quick, no doubt about it. Every time he threw kicks — whether it was head kicks, leg kicks, front kicks, or spinning kicks — they were fast. Honestly, they looked as fast as his kicks at light heavyweight, maybe even sharper, because they were less telegraphed. For comparison, against Reyes, Jon’s kicks were still fast, but you could kind of tell what type of kick was coming much more easily. Against Stipe, his kicks were not only fast but also came more "out of nowhere," less predictable.

His jabs were also really quick. So much so that they became one of his main weapons. And every time Stipe dodged them with head movement, it really showed just how fast those jabs were — almost like one of those "super speed" movie scenes (I’m exaggerating, of course, but it really did look that fast).

I also felt Jon’s reflexes were on point. He didn’t seem to have major issues in that department. When they were facing off at close range, both calculating, that’s when Stipe’s fastest punches came in — and Jon was able to dodge those cleanly. For example, that first straight right from Stipe: Jon slipped it and immediately countered with a front kick. There were also other fast punches — straights or tighter hooks — that Stipe threw, and Jon managed to dodge and counter quickly.

Basically, when Stipe wasn’t rushing, he was actually throwing his fastest punches, and Jon handled them pretty well. But when Stipe tried to blitz — not full-speed blitzes, but quick enough bursts — Jon seemed a bit more defensive, like he wanted to shut it down immediately. He would often put his hands out, covering Stipe’s face to disrupt the attack and quickly back away. It felt like even though Stipe lost a bit of speed and accuracy during those blitz attempts, Jon still treated them seriously and reacted fast, as if thinking: "Nope, not letting this happen!" ... It seems quick burst and blitzes are just a weakness for JJ, since Stipe sacrificed speed for those blitzes... They were by then, way slower than, let's say DDP's blitzes. Or Dominick Reyes' blitzes, as well. So I wonder how JJ sees this weakness (which was more apparent when he faced Thiago Santos and Reyes, the only really fighters who faced JJ who adopted those high pressure volume offense, those "quick bursts")...
 
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Imo it wasn't speed as in, speed as a whole. I've just rewatched, maybe for the 7th time lulz, while trying to focus mainly on the striking moments that Stipe was attacking.

JJ's attacks were quick. No way around it. Whenever JJ threw in kicks, be it headlocks, leg kicks, front kicks or spinning kicks, he was quick. Seemed as fast as LHW but sharper since there was less telegraphed kicking moves. Vs Reyes as comparison, JJ's kicks would be fast but he would kinda give in what kind of kick it'd be considerably moreso than vs Stipe, since they were quick but more that "all of a sudden". And his jabs were pretty quick, so much so it was on of his main weapons, when the times Stipe dodged that with head movement, it was apparent how quick of a jab it was, seemed like those super speed movie scene (exaggerating ofc, but it looked pretty quick).

Jon's reflexes seemed also good to me, like, didn't seem so much of an issue... When they were each in front of each other calculating, that was when Stipe's fastest hits came... And JJ would dodge the quickest ones (first straight right that Jones dodges and counter with a front kick), plus another real fist quick right or les straight / hook Stipe tried landing and JJ dodged swiftly and countered... Basically, whenever Stipe wasn't rushing, he was throwing the fastest hits, which JJ had an easier time against, but whenever Stipe would go on a sort of blitz (sort of, ofc as those blitz were really not that fast, but quick enough for Jones) JJ seemed to desperately try to shut it down, like putting his hands momentarily covering Stipe's faces so he could back away. It seemed even though Stipe's sacrificed speed and punching accuracy in these blitz (more like attempted ones since JJ would generally cover Stipe's face getting away real quick, like, no, not this!), JJ would be just wary of them.
So what do you think Jon's main weakness was? I couldn't tell by reading your post.
 
Done. Changed now, the AI in me kicked in and it made my brain piece the words together better. Haha. It's way more readable now.
 
I think you are asking to be banned, not sure
?? .... I don't know what you're even on... Could you explain? Where am I off here with those threads? Because I'm just bringing topics that I am interested in, I'm not interested to provoke ill reactions. In fact, I never throw any jabs towards ""haters of JJ""" in my threads, I post what I find interesting. I literally dunno why many ppl are saying I should be banned. Like, no clue at all. I didn't even praise JJ saying he is the goat or anything if you had even read the thread... WTF man...
 
Jon's main weakness is himself. When he isn't training for a fight, he gets into trouble. Drinking, drugs, hitting people with his car etc etc.

I really want the Tom fight to happen. This way when Jon beats him people will then say 'Tom wasn't that great' 'Jon beat another weak heavyweight' blah blah blah
 
Jon's exits were very slow. A younger, faster fighter would have hurt him on those slow and sloppy exits out of his attacks with his hands down. Jones decision making is still fast.
This is true but he was also basically playing with his food

So, he gave Stipe a lot more leeway than he would against an opponent where speed and a higher threat level was expected I feel.

He could basically do whatever he wanted, which reflects in the urgency and openings allowed.

Was definitely much slower though, but I think that would be navigated differently against more dangerous opposition.

If he does fight again, I think it's gonna be grindy, with some tactical striking mixed in, we won't be seeing him just standing up for a solid round without wearing his opponent down first.
 
I really want the Tom fight to happen. This way when Jon beats him people will then say 'Tom wasn't that great' 'Jon beat another weak heavyweight' blah blah blah

Jon has 2 wins in the last 5 years lol & the majority of the cage time was against an old retired firefighter, what makes you so confident in him at this point lol.
 
Jon has gotten easier to hit over the years. Not saying he’s hittable but the tail end of his career, he’s much less elusive than he was when he was young.

Tom can and will find Jon’s chin but Jon has a good one and is the smartest fighter ever. That’s why it’s so intriguing
 
Jon has gotten easier to hit over the years. Not saying he’s hittable but the tail end of his career, he’s much less elusive than he was when he was young.

Tom can and will find Jon’s chin but Jon has a good one and is the smartest fighter ever. That’s why it’s so intriguing

You're setting this up for replies like "Oh, Jon is elusive. At least he's good at ducking".
 
GOAT duck ever. Clearly lost a step in the cage but his GOAT fight IQ is why I’m so interested in that fight. Can he overcome every physical disadvantage and smash a dominant and much younger HW at this stage in his career? Shame we’ll likely never know.
You're setting this up for replies like "Oh, Jon is elusive. At least he's good at ducking".
 
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