Media *** Jon Jones/Islam Makhachev P4P #1 Fighter Discussion Mega Thread ***

[LeBron]

What a snake in the grass rat piece of shit. Never wants to give Islam credit.

Dana White rejects Islam Makhachev as No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter after UFC 302, Jon Jones responds

Dana White explains why he still ranks Jon Jones as the No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world — and how Islam Makhachev will likely never jump him to take that spot.

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[chinarice]

Your first problem was giving a shit what that dumbass thinks.

 

[Gabe]

He said he thought Jones was number one pound for pound. I hear stupider takes on here everyday.

 

[Leinster Rugby]

Dana is Jones' bottom bitch

 

[Marko Polo]

He’s invested a lot into Jones - he’ll call him the goat until Jon retires and then that mantle will be passed onto the next guy in the company. The very same day too

 

[IloveTHIS]

It's Jones. Stop being so dramatic and emotional

 

[RockyLockridge]

What a snake in the grass rat piece of shit. Never wants to give Islam credit.

Dana White rejects Islam Makhachev as No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter after UFC 302, Jon Jones responds

Dana White explains why he still ranks Jon Jones as the No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world — and how Islam Makhachev will likely never jump him to take that spot.

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he's very obviously right.

To be honest, him fighting porier and letting the fight being that close kinda proves he's not Number 1 p4p.

 

[Striker Fox]

he's very obviously right.

To be honest, him fighting porier and letting the fight being that close kinda proves he's not Number 1 p4p.

Islam did better against Poirier than Jones did against Santos and Reyes.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Islam did better against Poirier than Jones did against Santos and Reyes.

yeah but this is only the second time islam has fought a top 10 fighter in his own weightclass. A fighter who is past it, and islam still struggled quite a bit. He's not someone who has cleared out any division or anything.

 

[contrail]

Jones is the biggest draw Dana has right now outside another mentally unstable drug addict who fights even less often and can't win at the elite level anymore (which says a lot about the state of "star power" in the current roster...) so of course he's going to gas the man up as much as possible. He also doesn't want Islam moving up right away so discrediting his p4p placement helps bend the narrative away from that happening, at least for now.

I think if they both weighed the same Islam would beat Jones at this point, which is what the fundamental philosophy is behind the p4p list. Jon hasn't been prime for several years now, it's just that HW is extremely lean so he can and should dominate everyone there outside Tom.

 

[Portland8242]

Yeah kind of weird how he took that question and turned into a massive glazing session on Jones, barely mentioned Islam or other fighters at all.

Also him calling Gane the #1 HW completely ignoring his loss to Ngannou was so hilarious. Dana really knows how to gaslight lmao

 

[Striker Fox]

yeah but this is only the second time islam has fought a top 10 fighter in his own weightclass. A fighter who is past it, and islam still struggled quite a bit. He's not someone who has cleared out any division or anything.

You're really arguing that a washed up Jones who arguably lost to Santos and Reyes 4 years ago, and is currently ducking the interim champ is a better p4p than Islam?

 

[StonedLemur]

yeah but this is only the second time islam has fought a top 10 fighter in his own weightclass. A fighter who is past it, and islam still struggled quite a bit. He's not someone who has cleared out any division or anything.

Clearing out a division is not what P4P means though sir.

 

[MMAJunkie]

You're really arguing that a washed up Jones who arguably lost to Santos and Reyes 4 years ago, and is currently ducking the interim champ is a better p4p than Islam?

He is ducking a fighter on a 2 fight win streak with a fake belt? Lmao fake fans...flash in the pan fans...

 

[RockyLockridge]

Clearing out a division is not what P4P means though sir.

Ok, Well what does it mean then?

When it comes to people in FW he has struggled badly against Volk, when it comes to People in his weight Class he struggles with Porier... Who is a fighter considering retirement, his only other top 10 LW win is charles, which he looked much better against.

I think He'd lose at WW badly based on what I saw last night, I do not think he has a goddamn thing for Leon, shavkat, Ect.

So why is he p4p no 1? honestly Poatan should be higher P4P. he's beaten More ranked fighters in 2 weight classes than Islam has in one.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

 

[StonedLemur]

Ok, Well what does it mean then?

When it comes to people in FW he has struggled badly against Volk, when it comes to People in his weight Class he struggles with Porier... Who is a fighter considering retirement, his only other top 10 LW win is charles, which he looked much better against.

I think He'd lose at WW badly based on what I saw last night, I do not think he has a goddamn thing for Leon, shavkat, Ect.

So why is he p4p no 1? honestly Poatan should be higher P4P. he's beaten More ranked fighters in 2 weight classes than Islam has in one.

P4P was created in boxing as a fantasy matchmaker to hypothetically see if a lighter weight class was capable of beating a bigger boxer had they been the same weight.

Nothing more nothing less sir.

 

[b00tysweat]

You're really arguing that a washed up Jones who arguably lost to Santos and Reyes 4 years ago, and is currently ducking the interim champ is a better p4p than Islam?

you're really arguing that a guy who arguably lost to a FW is better than the GOAT who just made the #1 contender at HW tap in less than 3 minutes?

 

[Pechan]

Agreed, Christianity is #1

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Just checked the rankings and Dana is categorically wrong.

But this is obviously hype for the next Jon Jones fight where he randomly faces the #6 ranked heavyweight for some reason.