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Jon Jones is not the GOAT. Here's why

And people are quick to forget Jones left the arena on a stretcher after his fight with Gustaffson in 2014, with his face disfigured.

Yet Khabib, for example, has never even been bruised in his entire career.
Who did Khabib fight exactly? His best wins are Dustin and Conor.. Dustin is a great win.. Conor NOT really seen as a great win anymore.. And he retired with some great fighters on deck..
 
On purely skills based definitional parameters the GOAT is Jones and the P4P GOAT is GSP. Silva is too deficient in the wrestling department and Fedor is too technically lacking all over.
 
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One great big wall of text just to say the typical “ so-and-so fighter were washed at the time they fought JBJ. Of course you weren’t saying that at the time of the fight. You were prolly saying “ Shogun breaks JBJ chicken legs easy win for the PRIDE goat
 
if you dont care about roids then Jones could definitely be the GOAT.

if you do care about roids, then i think its GSP without a doubt.
 
And people are quick to forget Jones left the arena on a stretcher after his fight with Gustaffson in 2014, with his face disfigured.

Yet Khabib, for example, has never even been bruised in his entire career.

It really goes to show how dominant Jones is when the best people can say against him is, "One time, ten years ago, he was actually in a competitive fight."
 
The goat conversations are retarded, It’s subjective and also we won’t know till the end of time.
 
The goat conversations are retarded, It’s subjective and also we won’t know till the end of time.

I think "Greatest of all the history that we've experienced and are aware of thus far in human existence" would have been too long an acronym.

If you truly think GOAT means "greatest that ever was, is, and will ever be," the problem is your own critical thinking, not the concept itself.
 
I think "Greatest of all the history that we've experienced and are aware of thus far in human existence" would have been too long an acronym.

If you truly think GOAT means "greatest that ever was, is, and will ever be," the problem is your own critical thinking, not the concept itself.
Hope you feel better after getting that off your chest sister. You sound like a democrat. Enjoy your shaved head lol.
 
JBJ is clearly the GOAT.
Next best guys are GSP and Silva, this hasn't changed and won't change for a decent amount of time.

You need to defend against the next best guy over a GENERATION to even enter this list.

Nobody else has really done this (lol 1 or 2 defences doesn't count).

That said, its clearly wise for him to duck Tom at this point in his career, given Tom's momentum.
In my mind Tom is like Cain v2, a scary fucking mofo.
 
How recently have you rewatched the Jones Reyes fight?

Bones is a scumbag, but he won that fight, and he's the GOAT.
 
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Jones reminds me of Michael Jordan. It's been programmed to our minds that MJ is GOAT, and we don't even question it, we just accept it because he was before most of our time. Have you ever stopped to think, are you thinking for yourself, or are you letting others decide for you? Well let me tell you, Jordan is not the GOAT, or better put, he's not my GOAT. Yes he was great, out of this world, but the thing is, in the 80s before MJ could even come near a championship, we had these 3 teams, The Celtics, the Pistons, and the Lakers. These teams were winning championships for fun, and Jordan was no where to be seen. They all had greats, the Celtics had Parish, Larry Bird and Mchale, the Pistons had Isiah, Rodman and Dumars, and finally the Lakers had Magic Johnson, Karem Abdul Jabbar, and Worthy. All these players were winning championships in the era they competed, Jordan couldn't get near a championship playing against these guys. Remember the name of the players I listed and their teams, because now I'm going to provide their statistics. In 84-85 Lakers won over Celtics. In 85-86 Celtics won over the Rockets who had Hakem. In 86-87 Lakers won again over celtics, In 87-88 Lakers won over Pistons, In 88-89 Pistons finally won over Lakers, but Karem retired. in 89-90 Pistons won over Blazers, who had Drexler. If Jordan is GOAT, why couldn't he stop these awesome players and win? The next year 90=91 Jordan and the Chicago Bulls finally won, beating the Lakers, but as I said Karem had retired, and magic Johnson was diagnosed with HIV/aids later that same year. Also Larry bird had retired, although he would come out of retirement for the 1992 Olympic games. All these players I listed had either retired or gotten old. The Bulls beat tbe Pistons in the semis that year, but Isiah was old and retired. All MJ's championships came when all these dominant players had retired. I'm sorry MJ is not the GOAT, people have been brainwashed and accept things without asking questions. The same thing the UFC are trying to do with Jon Jones. Please don't get me wrong, Jordon was elite and up there with the very best, but all those championship rings came in an era were he had no real elites to compete against. They're great players, but not like the ones I listed.

Also sorry for ever comparing Jones to MJ, they are not in the same league. I just needed to make a point.

Have a nice day.
MJ scored 63 points against the 1986 Celtics, and compelling Bird to say it was God disguised as MJ. Jordan did not have Scottie Pippin until the following season & had no other All Stars on his team. 1986 Boston had 3 All Stars & Bill Walton won 6th man of the year. They lost 1 regular season home game … Jordan averaged 43-6.3-5.7 with 2 steals & 1 block per game in that series. Jordan shot .505 from the floor.

The Pistons beat the Lakers in 1989 with Kareem, albeit his final season.

Jordan pushed Detroit to a 7 game 1990 ECF & and had Detroit down 0-2 in the 1989 ECF. In the 1989 ECF MJ averaged 29.7 - 6.5 - 5.5 and 2 steals per game. MJ shot .460 from the floor. Bulls had 0 All Stars in 1989 EXCEPT MJ. In the 1990 ECF MJ finally has another All Star, who didn’t play in game 7 because of migraine headaches. Jordan averaged 32 - 7 - 6 and 2 steals per game. He shot .467 from the floor.

You’re better comparison is Babe Ruth who didn’t compete against Blacks or Rocky Marciano who retired before facing Sonny Liston & Floyd Patterson; and fought an Ezzard Charles who was a LHW, smaller than the undersized Marciano, and Jersey Joe & Joe Louis who were pushing 40.
 
Wayne Gretzky disagrees!
I was talking about mma lol. Whos that guy?Hockey?

Iverson and MJ are the best to me … many others will say Lebron or Russell. Football ( soccer ) is another endless battle. So many to consider goats but my favorite is this guy….


 
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