Jon Jones is declining, the end is near

Jon rises to the level of his competition and he got progressively more bored by the challenges. The perception that he's declined stems from that.

I think this whole HW talk is just a distraction. Either he took time off to just fuck around from boredom or, well, last time he popped, he took time off to bodybuild and now he's taken time off to bodybuild, so I don't know. Some of the rumors out there ring kinda true to me.

And if having a reach advantage was so crucial at LHW, more lanklets would be at the top, but they're not. So I'm not feeling the quasi-attempt at discrediting the earlier day talent who Jon beat.

The perception that he's declined comes from his age, the length of his career, and the fact he's barely scraping by average fighters which he never did before. No one stays at the top forever and Jones has already had a longer career than most. Time comes for everyone.

So many people want to deny reality and wait for the guy to get knocked out and go on a losing streak before they accept that he's past prime.
 
He seemed bored in his last couple fights. He's already rich, and the LHW GOAT, arguably the P4P GOAT. Maybe HW will reinvigorate him.
 
i agree with Ts but despite those wins jones looked bad.

I think he relyed too much on roids and athleticism that when he became clean, he lost some edge and couldn't perfom like the old jones; he didn't had good boxing defense, but his freak reach advantage was enough to defend shots.. the smith fight wasn't a good indicator but the Santos and the Reyes fight shown a very slow jones. All this smoke he's making about fighting at HW where the strenght is bigger and guys don't have to rush to get into jones is just a gimmick, he won't fight Stipe or Ngannou unless the UFC pays a lot.
I'm an old guy so" I could be wrong about this, but you said you "agree with Ts", doesn't that mean that you agree with Transvestites because "TS" means Thread Starter, right? You know the thing, man.....well, anyway....
 
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Jon Jones has looked worse in each of his last 3 fights Coincidence? i think not

vs Smith: could have LOST VIA DQ
vs. Santos: SPLIT DECISION even with 2 blown out knees, Jones couldnt do sh*t
vs. Reyes: won by UD but OUT-STRUCK, knocked down, and horrible judging.

based on the tape I've watched, he's noticeably slower, less explosive, and powerful. His wrestling looks regressed. The man who thoroughly outwrestled DC couldn't take down a one-legged Santos once.
The Reyes fight showed a visible regression in chain wrestling and he gave up on attempts quickly, relative to before. As for striking - significantly less volume. The stats say it all, but watch the fights for yourself. He used to throw combinations, unpredictable strikes, he was good at keeping the opponent guessing. These days? You don't see a single combination in his last 3 fights. None of those tricky "look low, kick high" shenanigans.

Jones initially built his tainted legacy from an era where LHW's were shorter. 5'11-6'1. Smith is 6'4, Santos is a thick 6'4, Reyes is 6'5. Much of his game stems from distance and using his length to not get hit.
dont want to get into the juicy juice but he popped for Gus and Smith, two fights he dominated. He did not pop for Santos and Reyes. At a certain point, correlation becomes so certain it reasonably indicates causation.

he knows he is on borrowed time and a loss is inevitable if he keeps fighting.
guys like Prochazka would literally kill him, i just couldn't see him beating all three of Jan, Jiri and Rakic.
he was smart to move to HW - if he is going to lose, only losing to Francis(and collecting 30m lul) or Gane will keep his reputation intact.
we've already seen moving up and losing doesn't affect perceptions of you (see Adesanya v Jan) so there's nothing to lose, everything to gain going to HW and nothing to gain in staying at LHW.
Agreed. The evidence against jones is so overwhelming is laughable he is still able to compete let alone be considered goat. Jones juiced his way to the top and off the roids he will get smoked by the heavies. I suspect his hiatus is so that he can perfect a way to beat usada while bulking up.
 
Thank you.
How about this: HE NEVER FUCKING LOST!

That alone kills all your asinine thoughts about him.

Win by an inch, win by a mile. It's the same. The pay is the same.
So he merely quieted down and does not feel the need to impress anymore. So he just does enough to eek out a win and go home with a paycheck that YOU contributed paying to see him lose. No need to be flashy or train too much.
Despite your crying, all the guys you mentioned LOST to him.

The only one that was conceivably a bad decision was Gus (first fight). And he beat Gus decisively in the rematch.

Hell, I am not even saying that I like the guy. I don't.
But he is indeed one of the best fighters ever despite your hate and if you can't see that, shame on you.

So keep trying, keep hating, keep praying he lose. Or that he won't fight ever again.
But crying for past fights (where he won) and making up stupid accusations is just asinine and tiresome. I mean, fuck! The dud has not fought in years and you can't shut up about it???
When someone is the ufc's greatest cheat and he succeeded at working the system its frustrating. Every other athlete with jones' infractions would be demonised and not compete again. In human cockfighting everything goes i guess.
 
this is always the case everyone is the next guy to beat jones but when they loose all of the suden they become washed up happens every time i wonder how were machida ,shad , rampage , gus 1 and 2 , reyes , santos , smith , chael etc doing before and after they loose to the GOAT <Fedor23>
Well, Machida, for one, was LHW champ (briefly) and then went on a little tear through MW
 
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When someone is the ufc's greatest cheat and he succeeded at working the system its frustrating. Every other athlete with jones' infractions would be demonised and not compete again. In human cockfighting everything goes i guess.
the fact you assume most don't use is impressively naïve within itself :)
but I do share your sentiment.
 
the fact you assume most don't use is impressively naïve within itself :)
but I do share your sentiment.
Show me the proof. Its naive to believe the narrative that they're all using. So someone on a10/10k can afford the regime to beat usada.
 
Thank you.
How about this: HE NEVER FUCKING LOST!

That alone kills all your asinine thoughts about him.

Win by an inch, win by a mile. It's the same. The pay is the same.
So he merely quieted down and does not feel the need to impress anymore. So he just does enough to eek out a win and go home with a paycheck that YOU contributed paying to see him lose. No need to be flashy or train too much.
Despite your crying, all the guys you mentioned LOST to him.

The only one that was conceivably a bad decision was Gus (first fight). And he beat Gus decisively in the rematch.

Hell, I am not even saying that I like the guy. I don't.
But he is indeed one of the best fighters ever despite your hate and if you can't see that, shame on you.

So keep trying, keep hating, keep praying he lose. Or that he won't fight ever again.
But crying for past fights (where he won) and making up stupid accusations is just asinine and tiresome. I mean, fuck! The dud has not fought in years and you can't shut up about it???

Remind us; how many drug tests has he failed?
 
Show me the proof. Its naive to believe the narrative that they're all using. So someone on a10/10k can afford the regime to beat usada.
That's the thing.
Tests are random, and not for everything.
So the system that checks the fighters is very fallible.
They all take supplements. And they share (like we've seen in the case of Yoel Romero, who took a tainted supplement from a female from his gym).
And like you said, many don't have the money to get the good stuff... but the one who has lots of money and can be ahead of USADA choses not to?

To think they catch or will catch everyone is just naïve.
And as such, bashing just those who got caught is being blind to the problem.
 
Different strategy. He is also coming back now, after a pretty long layoff, i think we will see a well prepared Jones
 
Jesus, Jon haters are relentless.


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I mean, keep praying he will lose, but do so silently!
No one likes a whinner!
I really hope that Jones win tho if he either fight against Gane or Ngannou

Because if not somebody in Albuquerque will going to get drunk shot at, or ran over
 
Thank you.
How about this: HE NEVER FUCKING LOST!

That alone kills all your asinine thoughts about him.

Win by an inch, win by a mile. It's the same. The pay is the same.
So he merely quieted down and does not feel the need to impress haters anymore. So he just does enough to eek out a win and go home with a paycheck that YOU contributed by paying to see him lose. No need to be flashy or train too much.
Despite your crying, all the guys you mentioned LOST to him.

The only one that was conceivably a bad decision was Gus (first fight). And he beat Gus decisively in the rematch.

Hell, I am not even saying that I like the guy. I don't.
But he is indeed one of the best fighters ever despite your hate and if you can't see that, shame on you.

So keep trying, keep hating, keep praying he'll lose. Or that he won't fight ever again.
But crying for past fights (where he won) and making up stupid accusations is just asinine and tiresome. I mean, fuck! The dude has not fought in years and you can't shut up about it???
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This isn't accurate. He showed 3 different levels of striking with his left leg in the Santos fight. He attacked leg, body and head. I thought he showed progression in his striking and didn't plan for any wrestling. I remember watching it and thinking he is still learning. Most champions stick to what they are good at.
 
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Well, technically he did not.
Jon did not lose, he was disqualified. ;)
And if anything, that was as bad a decision as Gus first fight, so IMO it's a wash
 
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