Is that how you end all your arguments? who in this board is trying to compete at high level? ill make a guess and say nobody, including you.
But sure, keep smashing the new guys and only roll with the veterans, that will surely make them feel welcome, you dont need to pay the bills anyway. Every person that walks the door, walks in with a different purpose.
BJJ is not wrestling and its not judo, for 99% of the people out there is a hobby, and i get reminded of it everytime that im training with that just one guy that remains after a month of training judo with a bunch of regular joes.
I have seen exactly 4 judo dojos start with 20 people to end up with less than 3 in a month, and i have spent several months of my payment trying to open up dojos, just to be able to have a single guy who to drill with.
But yup, keep lecturing me on how i have never trained hard in my life and how you are the head coach of the russian olympic wresting team. Its the internet after all we can be whoever we wanna be.
Never said I was the head coach of the Russian Wrestling team mr strawman, And there is a reason I'm saying that. Because I actually have perspective, and understand the difference between a relaxed training atmosphere for hobbyists where people are still getting better, and just letting it devolve into pig shit just to get paying customers because the person in charge doesn't know how to coach, develop or even the practice room equivalent of classroom management. Or that having someone with actual experience and perspective in charge who will make sure higher/more experienced belts/practitioners aren't being bullied or if it going on, smash those responsible. (i.e. controlling the room and being aware)
Most of the kids I coach are the teenage equivalent of bjj hobbyists, who have NEVER done anything difficult before, come from both the most ghetto and suburban backgrounds, and are actually more likely to quit after being embarrassed or being whooped than the hipster "well paying" customers you're talking about. But I know what hard work is and how to bring people along into getting better and tougher and having fun doing it, even if next to none of them will even think about wrestling in college
And most importantly all of the gyms that I have been in that did a good job keeping people who were hobbyists, old, never competed, never played any other sports, were well run, expected hard work (or the best that person could do or "attitude and effort" if you will), had clear expectations and basic rules, including focusing on rolling not talking joking too much (which is actually a safety concern btw).. and shocking to some of the people on this thread, joked in between goes, had fun, smiled before and after rolls etc.
In fact the gyms that are run this way almost always have a better time keeping and retaining students and developing them. The ones that have the problems you talk about are run by people like you. Wannabe's who've never competed or trained long enough at a high enough level to have perspective (asides from getting smashed at a little training camp with the Cuban National Team) and don't understand how to run a room or manage intensity but hey, you've researthched a lot of things about it. am I right or what
So once again, it comes through you've never actually trained at a high level or been fortunate enough to be around a well run gym that develops people. Or are you going to try to make up the strawman again that I endorsed bullying.