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Movies JOKER v.3 (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen JOKER, how would you rate it?


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That's another thing that kinda bothered me that I didn't mention before... IMO Joker should have his shit together WAY before 40. I mean that's a real late bloomer, unless you have some kind of super villain power.
Well also we can assume due to his abuse etc. He's younger than he looks. I don't think about Jouquins age as being the jokers true age in this movie. He might be only in his early 20s but comes across as older looking due to his life circumstances.
 
He might be only in his early 20s but comes across as older looking due to his life circumstances.

But that doesn't mesh with the facts given in the movie. When he was researching his adoption/abuse scandal, they specified that it was in a file from 30 years ago at the hospital. When they showed him in flashbacks of the abuse, he looked to be anywhere from 7-10 years old, perhaps up to 12. So that would put his age in the movie from late 30s to early 40s.
 
But that doesn't mesh with the facts given in the movie. When he was researching his adoption/abuse scandal, they specified that it was in a file from 30 years ago at the hospital. When they showed him in flashbacks of the abuse, he looked to be anywhere from 7-10 years old, perhaps up to 12. So that would put his age in the movie from late 30s to early 40s.
Ahh ok yeah I forgot about that part. Good catch
 
SPOILER** Thinking that Bruce and Joker were brothers for 30 minutes was a surprising moment.
They still could be. Remember the pic of joker holding up of his mom? It could be real or in his head.
 
It did though.. It was ridiculous. He had just done what he did and you were made to feel his ridiculous zeal. It fit perfectly.

Would have been better with some kind of upbeat circus/clown song...

Or a deep morbid cello instrumental like when he was in the public restroom dancing..

But if you wanna feel like you are tailgating to each their own..
 
Well also we can assume due to his abuse etc. He's younger than he looks. I don't think about Jouquins age as being the jokers true age in this movie. He might be only in his early 20s but comes across as older looking due to his life circumstances.

I would guess around 30. Nobody else could have played him this well throughout, so I understand. He looked 43, but I was guessing he was supposed to be mid 30s. If Bruce was 12, that's 13 years or so until whatever. It's all ridiculous fantasy and timelines do not matter anyway.
 
I would guess around 30. Nobody else could have played him this well throughout, so I understand. He looked 43, but I was guessing he was supposed to be mid 30s. If Bruce was 12, that's 13 years or so until whatever. It's all ridiculous fantasy and timelines do not matter anyway.
Yeah I wouldn't get too upset about joker being 40-45 against a 25 year old Batman
 
Yeah I wouldn't get too upset about joker being 40-45 against a 25 year old Batman
Jack was 53 to keatons 33.

Again, Batman was technically born in the 1930s. These convos are really lame at their core. There is no timeline. The X-Men seroes had no timeline. The people writing give it a little attention, but don't overly stress, and obviously neither should we.
 
They should make a Batman universe, not a DC universe. The other DC heroes don't work on film.
Um... Wonder Woman scored 93% on Rotten Tomatoes and made over $800 million. Aquaman made over $1 billion. Shazam! didn't do great financially but its Rotten Tomatoes score is 90%.
 
Um... Wonder Woman scored 93% on Rotten Tomatoes and made over $800 million. Aquaman made over $1 billion. Shazam! didn't do great financially but its Rotten Tomatoes score is 90%.

May be he meant they don't work in the Batman universe. I tend to agree.
 
Jack was 53 to keatons 33.

Back when Joker could be put down with one good punch in the the jaw just like the Riddler or the Penguin the age difference was no problem , but in the last 10 or so years (and actually his first appearance back in the 40s) the Joker has been shown to be more like a counterpart to Batman, even physically the gap has been reduced, Ledger was a pretty good choice for a modern Joker.
 
But if it's an origin story, he's goddamn late 30s or early 40s in the movie... he's going to be in his 60's by the time Bruce is Batman! How's that gonna work? Batman is in his physical prime and Joker is on high blood pressure medication from chain smoking all his life? Come on man that dog's not gonna hunt.

That's why I thought The Joker killing Bruce Wayne (perhaps even indirectly) would have been a nice twist, but sadly no one else agrees with me
 
That's why I thought The Joker killing Bruce Wayne (perhaps even indirectly) would have been a nice twist, but sadly no one else agrees with me

So what you're saying

is that the end scene should have followed the Flashpoint timeline

That is an indirect as it can get
 
Update: October 6, 2019

JOKER Gets the Last Laugh with Record-Breaking $93.5 Million for October Debut

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Todd Phillips' Joker got the last laugh in its box office debut, earning a huge $93.5 million domestically from 4,374 theaters to set a new opening record for the month of October despite heightened security at cinemas across the U.S.

The dark R-rated supervillain movie starring Joaquin Phoenix bested last year's Venom, which started off with $80.3 million. To boot, Joker danced to one of the best three-day openings of all time for an R-rated title, as well as the fifth biggest weekend launch of 2019 to date. It's also Warner Bros.' highest opening in two years.

Joker — far from an ordinary superhero pic, but instead an origin story laced with realism — has sparked widespread headlines and concern for its nihilistic themes and violence, prompting cinemas and police departments to ramp up security and remind patrons that face paint, face masks and toy weapons aren't allowed. Theaters are also checking IDs and informing guests that the fiim's rating is a "hard R," and that anyone under 17 must be accompanied by a parent or adult when buying a ticket.

Only 8 percent of ticket buyers were between ages 13 and 17, according to PostTrak's exit polling service (stats aren't available for those 12 and under). Overall, males made up 62 percent of the audience. Joker played to an ethnically diverse crowd: 44 percent of ticket buyers were Caucasian, followed by Hispanics (24 percent), African Americans (16 percent) and Asians/Other (14 percent). The majority of the audience (65 percent) was between ages 18 and 34.

Audiences gave the film a B+ CinemaScore, while its Rotten Tomatoes Score is 69 percent. Village Roadshow and Bron Studios each have a stake in the film, which cost north of $60 million to produce before marketing.

Joker also opened in earnest overseas timed to its U.S. launch. On Friday it earned an impressive $32.7 million from 73 markets for for a three-day total of $57.2 million. Full weekend numbers will be released later this morning.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-joker-gets-last-laugh-record-935m-bow-1245685

Another win for DC/WB
 
Back when Joker could be put down with one good punch in the the jaw just like the Riddler or the Penguin the age difference was no problem , but in the last 10 or so years (and actually his first appearance back in the 40s) the Joker has been shown to be more like a counterpart to Batman, even physically the gap has been reduced, Ledger was a pretty good choice for a modern Joker.

Uh huh.. Yeah.. No offense, but what one recent line of comics did doesn't supersede the previous 55 years; it is all at the whim of writers who can switch it up whenever they want without adherence to anything like you are pretending, and you are pretending so wrong is real and concrete that doesn't really exist. No offense. It's cheap entertainment. There is nothing in stone, and fans sad attempts to pretend their is kind of has to puzzle the dudes that wrote the stuff.

There are two rules of the comic world.. It's entertaining, or it isn't.
 

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