Movies JOKER v.3 (Dragonlord's Review)

[armbarforhire]

Uh huh.. Yeah.. No offense, but what one recent line of comics did doesn't supersede the previous 55 years; it is all at the whim of writers who can switch it up whenever they want without adherence to anything like you are pretending, and you are pretending so wrong is real and concrete that doesn't really exist. No offense. It's cheap entertainment. There is nothing in stone, and fans sad attempts to pretend their is kind of has to puzzle the dudes that wrote the stuff.

There are two rules of the comic world.. It's entertaining, or it isn't.

I see what you are saying, but is the same reason we dont see funny 60s Joker and Batman anymore, things are superseded as they go along to adapt to the times.

It works for this movie, it would not work if they wanted to continue this story with Batman, in fact it will be pretty bad if they bring superheros in to this world, just the hints at batman are enough.

 

[Steve Rogers]

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Um... Wonder Woman scored 93% on Rotten Tomatoes and made over $800 million. Aquaman made over $1 billion. Shazam! didn't do great financially but its Rotten Tomatoes score is 90%.

Wonder Woman and Aquaman both sucked balls and Wonder Woman especially only scored high for the same reason Joker is getting review bombed. Woke bullshit.

Rotten tomatoes scores are utterly irrelevant nowadays.

 

[Zazen]

B+ on cinemascore isn't that good. Wonder why it didn't do as well as inferior comic back films that normally get an A

 

[Steve Rogers]

B+ on cinemascore isn't that good. Wonder why it didn't do as well as inferior comic back films that normally get an A

Its Rotten Tomatoes audience score is much better. 91%.

 

[Happy Man]

Well, I can see why big wigs were so concerned.

In the right light, it’s nothing short of a call to action. Anyone can be a victim. Even those that society says can never be.

Great movie.

Dark movie.

 

[EvilDDS]

Joker to me was phenomenal! Gawd, the score, ie the cello music was fitting for every scene. Phoenix delivered. It was disturbing, and intriguing

There will never be an MCU movie that has that type of performance. It's dark, twisted, an exposé on mental illness.

That's not a chirp at MCU, they're fun by disney and they know what appeals to make money. They're more light hearted, funny and quite good. I own Ininity War and End Game in my collection. Love Iron Man 1, and love Tom Holland as Spider-Man.

But damn, Joker was a damn beast in this

I think RDJ is the best actor in the MCU, love the dude, Less Than Zero is one my faves. What Joaquin did was spectacular, the weight loss, the acting just great.

Cello heavy in this movie, and it plays perfectly. I used to play violin so i was wrapped up every time that cello started

"I hope my death will make more cents than my life"

 

[minute bull]

It's a startling character study marred by a few cute moments. Shout out to the Batpole. It's pretty hard to accept the Donald Trump approach to Thomas Wayne -- like, Bruce Wayne is Trump's son?!-- but it was something I had somewhat expected back when Alec Baldwin was cast, given that the story would be told from Joker's perspective. I don't usually assume films take politically stances even when they use social contexts, so I'm kind of interested to see if anyone has a problem with the perspective of Joker the character being aligned with the left, and whether they would then speculate JOKER the film was aligned with the right (Batman, son of Trump).

It was those clever tie-ins to current political dynamics and conspicuous allusions to Bstman and the Wayne family that interfered with my absorption of Phoenix's performance. Kinda in the same way his age is bothering other people. Not really, but yeah I noticed it.

Coincidentally, JOKER sorta hovers on the nexus at the middle of the Scorsese conversation of whether the MCU constitutes cinema. Todd Phillips made the conscious decision to go into comic book films because he saw that no other genre had a real chance at the box office. While this is more a financial decision, it can also be used as an example of how there doesn't necessarily have to be a divide between something that EVERYONE can point at and call "Cinema" while still being a money making comic book blockbuster.

 

[IndyCovaHart]

The first incel biopic.

Great movie but I don’t think I could ever be that socially irresponsible to create it. They know exactly the disenfranchised subculture they are appealing to as well.

This definitely comes off like a call to arms. I just hope that doesn’t pan out.

 

[minute bull]

The first incel biopic.

Great movie but I don’t think I could ever be that socially irresponsible to create it. They know exactly the disenfranchised subculture they are appealing to as well.

This definitely comes off like a call to arms. I just hope that doesn’t pan out.

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[Shoguns Prodigy**]

You're an idiot.

 

[MicroBrew]

Took the nephew to see it.
I rated it a 5.

Here's my reason:
The movie is very slow paced. They really should have moved things along a lot faster. While sitting through it I wondered if the stories of people leaving the movie part way through was not due to its violence as reported but because their patience at its slow pace finally wore out.

Some news articles reported that people left because of the violence, but they must have been watching a different movie because Deadpool was far far more violent than this movie. Joker isn't even particularly violent.

Some critics seemed to be miffed that Joker has been humanized and portrayed in a way that elicits sympathy . While that is true for the first 3 killings, when he kills his mother, the sympathy was greatly diminished and it went totally out the window when he killed the psychiatrist.

The script needed some more work to make it believable. Are we supposed to believe that a high profile murder suspect, one whose killing started a riot and movement, is only transported in a cop car with no other back-up, while protests and rioting is going on ? This is a guy who is also blamed for the severe beat-down the 2 detectives received on the subway. The cops of Gotham in the movie are really really soft, which doesn't seem believable for a major city , one modeled on NYC.

The 2 detectives never thought to search the Joker's home for the gun, or search the Joker? The dwarf guy didn't run to the cops after witnessing the murder?

 

[FyrFytr998]

Thanos has spoken.

 

[Peteyandjia]

Shout out to the Batpole.

Literally my favorite part of the movie. It got a “Hah!” out of me at the theater, & the oblivious noob cans around me just gave me a weird glance like I was Arthur Fleck or some shit.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

The first incel biopic.

Great movie but I don’t think I could ever be that socially irresponsible to create it. They know exactly the disenfranchised subculture they are appealing to as well.

This definitely comes off like a call to arms. I just hope that doesn’t pan out.

Must suck to live life in such fear.

 

[MicroBrew]

Thanos has spoken.

That's a great critique and introspection of society (real life society)

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Thanos has spoken.

The movie isn't that deep tbh

 

[IndyCovaHart]

Must suck to life life in such fear.

You obviously aren’t aware of the subculture that lurks in the dark recesses of the web.

It’s just a matter of time and I doubt it will take long.

 

[Steve Rogers]

Took the nephew to see it.
I rated it a 5.

Here's my reason:
The movie is very slow paced. They really should have moved things along a lot faster. While sitting through it I wondered if the stories of people leaving the movie part way through was not due to its violence as reported but because their patience at its slow pace finally wore out.

Some news articles reported that people left because of the violence, but they must have been watching a different movie because Deadpool was far far more violent than this movie. Joker isn't even particularly violent.

Some critics seemed to be miffed that Joker has been humanized and portrayed in a way that elicits sympathy . While that is true for the first 3 killings, when he kills his mother, the sympathy was greatly diminished and it went totally out the window when he killed the psychiatrist.

The script needed some more work to make it believable. Are we supposed to believe that a high profile murder suspect, one whose killing started a riot and movement, is only transported in a cop car with no other back-up, while protests and rioting is going on ? This is a guy who is also blamed for the severe beat-down the 2 detectives received on the subway. The cops of Gotham in the movie are really really soft, which doesn't seem believable for a major city , one modeled on NYC.

The 2 detectives never thought to search the Joker's home for the gun, or search the Joker? The dwarf guy didn't run to the cops after witnessing the murder?

Spoiler

"Given the movie’s slippery relationship with certain basic facts, it’s fair to wonder, as some fans have, if Fleck was actually in Arkham Asylum the entire time and merely imagined the whole narrative as a kind of pathological mental confabulation or demented form of wish fulfillment."

'Joker' ending explained: Director Todd Phillips on fan theories and open questions

 

[MicroBrew]

Joaquin Phoenix did one hellva of a job.