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Movies JOKER v.3 (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen JOKER, how would you rate it?


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This song is actually in the movie during a serious scene

It completely killed the scene




Holy shit I completely forgot about this. My litmus test for these choices is usually "wtf is this playing for"?

It makes more sense after the fact but I'm not sold on using that.


The step scene was completely different than I had anticipated. For some reason I had it in my mind he was going to serenade Sophie.

I guess Heath on my mind

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Update: October 6, 2019

JOKER Gets the Last Laugh with Record-Breaking $93.5 Million U.S. Debut, $234 Million Globally

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Todd Phillips' Joker got the last laugh in its box office debut, earning a huge $93.5 million domestically from 4,374 theaters to set a new opening record for the month of October despite heightened security at cinemas across the U.S.

The dark, R-rated supervillain movie starring Joaquin Phoenix as a mentally ill misfit turned homicidal maniac did even more business overseas, raking in $140.5 million from more than 70 markets for a global start of $234 million (it doesn't yet have a release date in China). Both figures likewise set new benchmarks for the month.

The dark R-rated supervillain movie starring Joaquin Phoenix bested last year's Venom, which started off with $80.3 million. To boot, Joker danced to one of the best three-day openings of all time for an R-rated title, as well as the fifth biggest weekend launch of 2019 to date. It's also Warner Bros.' highest opening in two years.

Joker — far from an ordinary superhero pic, but instead an origin story laced with realism — has sparked widespread headlines and concern for its nihilistic themes and violence, prompting cinemas and police departments to ramp up security and remind patrons that face paint, face masks and toy weapons aren't allowed. Theaters are also checking IDs and informing guests that the fiim's rating is a "hard R," and that anyone under 17 must be accompanied by a parent or adult when buying a ticket.

Only 8 percent of ticket buyers were between ages 13 and 17, according to PostTrak's exit polling service (stats aren't available for those 12 and under). Overall, males made up 62 percent of the audience. Joker played to an ethnically diverse crowd: 44 percent of ticket buyers were Caucasian, followed by Hispanics (24 percent), African Americans (16 percent) and Asians/Other (14 percent). The majority of the audience (65 percent) was between ages 18 and 34.

Audiences gave the film a B+ CinemaScore, while its Rotten Tomatoes Score is 69 percent. Village Roadshow and Bron Studios each have a stake in the film, which cost north of $60 million to produce before marketing.

Joker also opened in earnest overseas timed to its U.S. launch. On Friday it earned an impressive $32.7 million from 73 markets for for a three-day total of $57.2 million. Full weekend numbers will be released later this morning.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-joker-gets-last-laugh-record-935m-bow-1245685
 
It's like the whole movie they tried to give it that late 60's, seventies vibe with the decor, music and tv show Carson look. But then out of nowhere, A 90's Jock Jams song...
I understand the backlash to the song but in fairness the song was first released in 1972.
 
I understand the backlash to the song but in fairness the song was first released in 1972.

Interesting...

I did not know,

Yet still vexed about the option...

Just really didn't go with the mood of the movie imo. But oh well, still good.
 
Interesting...

I did not know,

Yet still vexed about the option...

Just really didn't go with the mood of the movie imo. But oh well, still good.

It did though.. It was ridiculous. He had just done what he did and you were made to feel his ridiculous zeal. It fit perfectly.
 
I didn't like how he started talking like a f*g in the Murray interview. Joker is not supposed to sound like a dinner masher IMO
 
Interesting...

I did not know,

Yet still vexed about the option...

Just really didn't go with the mood of the movie imo. But oh well, still good.

I'm kinda with you, I didn't think the song fit. They could have picked something a lot better 4sho.

So far my favourite things about the movie is....

1) Phoenix's performance.
2) The cool Cello soundtrack
3) how much it's triggering left-leaning reviewers
 
I didn't like how he started talking like a f*g in the Murray interview. Joker is not supposed to sound like a dinner masher IMO
I don't like the way you put it, but this was admittedly a problem. He was making a transition into somebody that would talk with more confidence, and somebody that would embrace the madness.

As I've stated ad nauseam, the movie flowed pretty perfectly until that scene. It took a 1.5/10 off the score for me, and I'm thinking now maybe 2. I was actually hyped to see his transition into embracing the laugh and rolling with it etc... That scene wasn't it.

Movie could have been a 10/10 for me if that scene is changed.
 
I don't like the way you put it, but this was admittedly a problem. He was making a transition into somebody that would talk with more confidence, and somebody that would embrace the madness.

As I've stated ad nauseam, the movie flowed pretty perfectly until that scene. It took a 1.5/10 off the score for me, and I'm thinking now maybe 2. I was actually hyped to see his transition into embracing the laugh and rolling with it etc... That scene wasn't it.

Movie could have been a 10/10 for me if that scene is changed.

Yeah it was stupid and retarded. Not a good way to end and a bad ending can fuck up the journey
 
Seen this twice now, second viewing was better than the first as I really paid attention and wasn't caught up in all the hype.

Now I am leaning to less of a pure character study and seeing it for a Joker Origin story like it wasn't meant to be.

His henchman rescuing him made me have flashbacks of his henchman in other comics and movies.

He becomes completely psychotically unpredictable just like why he is feared by supervillians when they have to team up with him. You can see it how his co-workers are nervous around him and his boss even mentions it.

Also the destiny between him and young Bruce is more palpable than ever before in the second viewing.

So yeah, it needs another viewing.
 
Yeah it was stupid and retarded. Not a good way to end and a bad ending can fuck up the journey
Well remember the very ending, the last thing you literally see of him. That made me chuckle and was pretty good.
 
Seen this twice now, second viewing was better than the first as I really paid attention and wasn't caught up in all the hype.

Now I am leaning to less of a pure character study and seeing it for a Joker Origin story like it wasn't meant to be.

His henchman rescuing him made me have flashbacks of his henchman in other comics and movies.

He becomes completely psychotically unpredictable just like why he is feared by supervillians when they have to team up with him. You can see it how his co-workers are nervous around him and his boss even mentions it.

Also the destiny between him and young Bruce is more palpable than ever before in the second viewing.

So yeah, it needs another viewing.

I got all that mixed with the character study on first viewing. Still want to see again.
 
Seen this twice now, second viewing was better than the first as I really paid attention and wasn't caught up in all the hype.

Now I am leaning to less of a pure character study and seeing it for a Joker Origin story like it wasn't meant to be.

His henchman rescuing him made me have flashbacks of his henchman in other comics and movies.

He becomes completely psychotically unpredictable just like why he is feared by supervillians when they have to team up with him. You can see it how his co-workers are nervous around him and his boss even mentions it.

Also the destiny between him and young Bruce is more palpable than ever before in the second viewing.

So yeah, it needs another viewing.

But if it's an origin story, he's goddamn late 30s or early 40s in the movie... he's going to be in his 60's by the time Bruce is Batman! How's that gonna work? Batman is in his physical prime and Joker is on high blood pressure medication from chain smoking all his life? Come on man that dog's not gonna hunt.
 
But if it's an origin story, he's goddamn late 30s or early 40s in the movie... he's going to be in his 60's by the time Bruce is Batman! How's that gonna work? Batman is in his physical prime and Joker is on high blood pressure medication from chain smoking all his life? Come on man that dog's not gonna hunt.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. But we can assume Batman just starts a little earlier in his career. And remember this is an elseworlds story. Not necessarily set within the main DC continuity.

Could be Batman becomes Batman because of the joker and uses those opposing ideals to fight crime without ever having to confront the clown himself. Just the spectre of his past actions.
 
This is the dumbest controversy ever. The movie that the shooting took place didn't even have Joker in it. Why is there heightened security for this?
 
Well remember the very ending, the last thing you literally see of him. That made me chuckle and was pretty good.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. But we can assume Batman just starts a little earlier in his career. And remember this is an elseworlds story. Not necessarily set within the main DC continuity.

Could be Batman becomes Batman because of the joker and uses those opposing ideals to fight crime without ever having to confront the clown himself. Just the spectre of his past actions.

That's another thing that kinda bothered me that I didn't mention before... IMO Joker should have his shit together WAY before 40. I mean that's a real late bloomer, unless you have some kind of super villain power.
 
This is the dumbest controversy ever. The movie that the shooting took place didn't even have Joker in it. Why is there heightened security for this?
Because of all the mass shootings that have happened lately, and basically all of those shooters boil down to this origin story of someone who snaps psychologically and starts murdering people due to society rejecting them.

So the media hyped this up as inspirational for those archetypes
 
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