Movies JOKER v.3 (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen JOKER, how would you rate it?

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Oogie Sharp said:
Seemed improbable that cute black girl with the child would be attracted to him and want to be in is life.

Girl WTF is wrong with you.

That aside, good movie, super intense, and am not too eager to rewatch. Ala Taxi Driver, I'm not into that weird, incel, weirdo psycho movies, sick violence. Too unsettling.
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lol did you not see that the girl being into him was all in his mind?
 
method115 said:
lol did you not see that the girl being into him was all in his mind?
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Really? That would make better sense, but how could you tell?

If I think about it .. when he went in her apt. sitting on her couch, she acted strange when she came out and discovered him, really startled and "wtf are you doing here, please get out quick" vibe.

Which struck me as..well shit, why so cold, aren't you 2 going out.

THAT would explain how she acted.

That is subtle, deep and slipped over my head.

Especially with scenes like her at the hospital with him, at his mom's bedside consoling him, their walk in the streets together. Subtle stuff.

But that would make her apt. Scene make sense if it was all imagined.

Some deep shit. I missed it
Dude just struck me as a psycho of epic proportions from his first second in the movie. <45>

And just a weird decaying, shot to hell, topsy turvy town.

Ok...this is a weird place, weird people, ok maybe she's into this psycho? Everybody seems crazy. <45>
 
The line you may have missed is when she says, "Your name is Arthur, right?" I think she also mentions that she recalls that he lives with his mother.
 
Oogie Sharp said:
Really? That would make better sense, but how could you tell?

If I think about it .. when he went in her apt. sitting on her couch, she acted strange when she came out and discovered him, really startled and "wtf are you doing here, please get out quick" vibe.

Which struck me as..well shit, why so cold, aren't you 2 going out.

THAT would explain how she acted.

That is subtle, deep and slipped over my head.

Especially with scenes like her at the hospital with him, at his mom's bedside consoling him, their walk in the streets together. Subtle stuff.

But that would make her apt. Scene make sense if it was all imagined.

Some deep shit. I missed it
Dude just struck me as a psycho of epic proportions from his first second in the movie. <45>

And just a weird decaying, shot to hell, topsy turvy town.

Ok...this is a weird place, weird people, ok maybe she's into this psycho? Everybody seems crazy. <45>
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There's also a part where they go through all the scenes where he was with her except she's not there anymore to show you that it was all in his head.
 
method115 said:
There's also a part where they go through all the scenes where he was with her except she's not there anymore to show you that it was all in his head.
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Ahh yes I remember that quick flash, didnt absorb exactly what I was seeing, or not seeing.

I need to watch it a 2nd time. A lot of deep stuff going on, I wasnt prepared for. :)
 
Oogie Sharp said:
Ahh yes I remember that quick flash, didnt absorb exactly what I was seeing, or not seeing.

I need to watch it a 2nd time. A lot of deep stuff going on, I wasnt prepared for. :)
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Yea a lot of stuff that can easily be missed. I personally didn't enjoy the movie to much but it was clearly loved by most.
 
Philips said the scenes with Sophie were originally shot to take place in real life. Arthur really was in a relationship with her. My avatar is a scene from the trailer that didn't make the final cut. Arthur leaves the flowers outside Sophie's door along with an envelope containing money and a note asking her to watch him on Murry's show that evening.

They changed it to make Arthur even more disconnected from reality. However, Philips has confirmed that Arthur did not kill Sophie. He just leaves her apartment and goes home.
 
method115 said:
Yea a lot of stuff that can easily be missed. I personally didn't enjoy the movie to much but it was clearly loved by most.
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Yes it was very unsettling, like Taxi Driver, and just not the type of movie I rewatch. I want to feel good after a movie, not disturbed. <45>

Don't want to be around these crazy people or this crazy world.

Hope he gets the best actor. Loved him in Walk The Line. THATS a movie I can rewatch and a world I don't mind spending 2 hours in.
 
Just watched this movie and it was just alright.

Excellent acting by Phoenix. Pretty good as a drama.

But very disappointing considering it's a Joker origin story. Joker's supposed to be a calm, cunning, calculative villain. This Joker is just an emotional mess, caves to pressure and would've been easily manipulated.
 
horc00 said:
Just watched this movie and it was just alright.

Excellent acting by Phoenix. Pretty good as a drama.

But very disappointing considering it's a Joker origin story. Joker's supposed to be a calm, cunning, calculative villain. This Joker is just an emotional mess, caves to pressure and would've been easily manipulated.
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Well he was only Joker for like the last tenth of the movie.
 
GoldenAzazel said:
Well he was only Joker for like the last tenth of the movie.
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If Phoenix's Joker met Ledger's Joker, I get the feeling he'd end up like this guy...

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Finally watched this. Didn't hate it, didn't like it. Kinda hard to buy a naive, talentless, unsuccessful, 30-something momma's boy suddenly flipping out and later becoming a criminal mastermind. Movie would have been better off just being about a man's descent into madness without the joker origin angle. But then again, nobody would've cared about it. $$$.

The story wasn't very interesting. Not as deep as it pretended to be. Unfortunate guy, mental illness, a square peg being shit on by a society he wishes to be a part of, so he decides it's time do things his own way, does a bunch of bad shit and in the end gets the adulation he'd so strongly desired. Ok, so what? He's had a hard go of it and society sucks, I get it already. Why am I watching this? Failed to show any kind of authentic human side to Arthur before the transformation, basically just a caricature of a mentally ill and pathetic man. Dead-end themes failed to reach any real points worth exploring. The actions of the characters and sequence of events were not believable. Didn't even think JP 's acting was great. But some scenes were sorta cool though, I guess...
 
horc00 said:
If Phoenix's Joker met Ledger's Joker, I get the feeling he'd end up like this guy...

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Heath Ledger's Joker would fuck up most iterations of the Joker if we're being honest. My point was just that a lot of Joker's origin stories start out with him being a complete wimpy loser.
 
Have now seen this movie doe the second time. I can't think of a better film performance in the last ten years. Movie is almost perfect.
 
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