Thought this thread was about Johny Hendricks..
Same. Thought he came out of retirement or something. Still not convinced that wasn’t planned by TS... who else spells the name that way?Thought this thread was about Johny Hendricks..
I've been watching since UFC 40, as a hardcore MMA fan and enthusiast. I also train multiple TMA discipline myself. I'm telling you as someone who doesn't let fandom cloud my judgement that moose is maybe #5. Maybe! He didn't pass the test that mattered when the UFC pushed him to the top. 4 main events in a row to start his UFC career. 4!!! He went 2-2! After a win streak over no one of note he was pushed again and given a gimme fight in Hall and choked again. He almost lost to schlemko after leaving the UFC knowing it was either fight Romero and lose his title aspiration again or go to the Bleague and shine. Hes hardly shined though, performed poorly against Alex, won the title and fought another guy who proved he wasn't the top of the heap in the A league in Rory. What is Moose marquee win that makes him #1? Answer that and maybe you could change my mind. Trying to be an MMA elitist against someone like me wont work tho. I follow it and don't watch any other sport so your not going to convince me of anything a fighter wouldn't already have done for you
Dude idk how everyone is all on the moose. What is his marquee win that makes him #1? Why did he go 2-2 in his first 4 fights in the UFC that were all main events? Why did he choke against hall. Why did he leave the UFC instead of sign to fight Romero. Why did he get a gift against slem? Why did he defend his title against a UFC WW washout who couldn't cut it at the top either?
I've been watching for 20 years and it's my opinion when it comes to Gegard Mousasi, you don't know what youre talking about for reasons I ALREADY STATED. You do understand that most UFC champions had come to UFC at first and suffered setbacks and then came back to become champ .You do understand that ? It's common fucking sense. Chris Weidman was always a great stand up fighter in the sense of keeping distance and keeping opposition at the end of his punches. Gegard only fighter to blow that up (standing). Chris didn't know what to do as for first time was backing up and getting pelted until he looked for a way out (and got it).
It means I understand what I'm watching on a different level than you. What is his marquee win again?
Lol- let's say 20 of his 46 wins are marquee. Do you know how hard it is at 46-6 and showing no worse for weAr at age 33? We call that a paradox.
You lost man, just move on
It’s nice to have dreams. Keep it up bro..
No I get to add you to " my own list"...and I should feel proud because of your, lol, multi-disciplined background....but im not cause you're not" much" different than everyone else.
I'm not calling you out to fist fight me over an internet debate, don't e-thug me or claim I called you out firstly. If Romero was anywhere near or less than -275 Favorite I'd clean that bookie out. Once again, you are out of your depth here if you are claiming Romero isn't a substantial favorite over moose. He has zero marquee wins against a true top 5 opponent at 185(weidman was on as good of a getting stopped streak as moose was on the stoppage streak you keep foaming at the mouth about, which actually isn't even true. Leites survived the whole fight without ever being in danger of being put away. Damage doesn't equal a finish, so quit trying to fool people reading your c level analysis. Woodley and Stipe stayed in the big league and still won the belts is the difference between them. No one except Jones is unbeatable and the other champs currently all have equal or less UFC losses than moose! You are wrong about this one guy, white flag and move along
Dude, I stopped at the 42 year old stamina issued Romero-275 over Mousasi. ... oh and the extremely uncompetitive fight between Mousasi and Leites. I mean do you have eye balls? The guy took the beating of his life and flopped on his back for last minute so he wouldn't get finished ( unlike 3 months prior when he took " the great coward Bisping " for a 25 minute walk down in a split (now, there's the difference from a good fighter (Bisping) and an elite (mousasi) and they were only months apart.
275- I almost just got into a car accident. Lol .
You are insane if you think a guy who struggled with Alexander schlemenko is any where inside the range of +200 underdog to Yoel. Where this myth comes about Romero stamina is a joke. He has so many 3rd round stoppages its insane. You're out of your depth and dodged every fact i threw at you and now are acting like a gambling guru to avoid losing the battle of fact vs fiction. Its embarrassing for you honestly
Once again, he DID NOT STOP THALES LEITES. YOU CANT CALL IT A 5 FIGHT STOPPAGE STREAK WHEN THE JUDGES DECIDED THE WINNER. Just throw up the white flag. When did I ever claim Mike to be elite? Never, that's when. However, I would favor Mike over Mousasi as an underdog and not be surprised if he got a ud over moose even a little. Bisping matches up great against him, cardio is close, bisping is more technique oriented as far as the boxing goes, and could win by countering him for 3 rounds and have good enough tdd to stop the grappling (only ever tapped to Rockhold and didnt tap to GSP)
I already explained the schlemenko situation you dumb....(forget it- go bust your orbital and come back and post ).
Now it's official. You have no clue. Mousasi would be a -400 favorite today over bisping and a -300 favorite over Bisping when he was still fighting AND TURNED DOWN TITLE FIGHT AGAINST GEGARD at end of mousasi s contract .
