John Kerry: Isreal Risks Becoming An Apartheid State

[Bumble_Bee_Tuna]

Well, considering the U.S. has played the false neutrality in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, it's surprising Kerry would utter such words, only to attempt to retract it later. If you don't know Skull and Bones Kerry, he has a history of uttering nonsensical statements which blow back in his face. It was the same Kerry, who in the Syria crisis, when asked what would prevent U.S. bombing, he rhetorically stated:

"Sure, he could turn over every single bit of his chemical weapons to the international community in the next week - turn it over, all of it without delay and allow the full and total accounting (of it), but he isn't about to do it and it can't be done."

And it was this statement that left egg on his face, as it was seized upon by Putin and Lavrov in a geopolitical stroke of genius to strike a deal for Assad to dismantle and dispose of his chemical weapons, thereby avoid war, and throw a lifeline to the vacillating Obama.

Kerry is a witless half-wit if there ever was one, and a bumbling fool at that. He is a shill, a paid agent and a rogue element in the Obama administration. Who would ever want such a character to be their dignitary to the rest of the world?

 

[Bumble_Bee_Tuna]

Fuck Israel. They need to be publicly mocked as much as possible. Potential loss of international face seems like it might be the only thing to make them take the peace process more seriously.

Now, now, let's not get emotional, as such thinking leads to the dark side, which leads to the destruction of Israel. After all, we must be wary of the Samson option.

 

[Gervinho]

Well, considering the U.S. has played the false neutrality in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, it's surprising Kerry would utter such words, only to attempt to retract it later. If you don't know Skull and Bones Kerry, he has a history of uttering nonsensical statements which blow back in his face. It was the same Kerry, who in the Syria crisis, when asked what would prevent U.S. bombing, he rhetorically stated:



And it was this statement that left egg on his face, as it was seized upon by Putin and Lavrov in a geopolitical stroke of genius to strike a deal for Assad to dismantle and dispose of his chemical weapons, thereby avoid war, and throw a lifeline to the vacillating Obama.

Kerry is a witless half-wit if there ever was one, and a bumbling fool at that. He is a shill, a paid agent and a rogue element in the Obama administration. Who would ever want such a character to be their dignitary to the rest of the world?

Kerry said what he believes is the truth and what most people believe is the truth. Only in politics does one have to apologies for saying the truth. As far him being weak and being played by Syria/Russia? I am really not buying that. America really didnt want to go to another war and force another regime change and would have gained absolutely nothing bombing Syria. So in the end they found a solution that suited everyone. And Russia didnt gain anything.

 

[tkotom]

lol such a goofball

 

[LucasWithLidOff]

lol such a goofball

Who, Kerry?

 

[tkotom]

Who, Kerry?

Yeah.

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

what he said is what political leaders in israel like livni and barak have said, you either get a 2 state solution, or you are left with 2 options, and 1 state that is an apartheid state where palestinians in the west bank can't vote and don't have rights, or you give them voting and rights and then you end up with a jewish minority.

what he said is what several israeli leaders have said, in israel this isn't a big deal because it's reality, in america, he's asked to resign.

let's you know who really controls our government.

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

huh? i didnt say anything about anti-semitism. all i said was that there will be no outrage because the left vehemently hates israel, so he can say what he wants and there will be no outrage. as for the sterling quote, it was meant to say that this is a much more important issue to the left. making sure sterling gets what he has coming.

this is one of the most aggravating things about liberal douchebags. they always try to put words in your mouth so it fits their narrative

or perhaps liberals aren't outraged because they know kerry simply said what MANY israeli leaders have also said. plus what he said is actually true. perhaps in this case, liberals know there is nothing to be outraged over and they didn't freak out like conservatives and leap frog each other to sell out their own country to israel?

 

[Jukai]

what he said is what political leaders in israel like livni and barak have said, you either get a 2 state solution, or you are left with 2 options, and 1 state that is an apartheid state where palestinians in the west bank can't vote and don't have rights, or you give them voting and rights and then you end up with a jewish minority.

what he said is what several israeli leaders have said, in israel this isn't a big deal because it's reality, in america, he's asked to resign.

let's you know who really controls our government.

I hate to say it, but outside of the last sentence, this is one of the truest statements Nicky has ever made

 

[Its Me Austin]

Kerry thought it was a good idea to invade Iraq. A damn shame that he still holds such a powerful position.

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

Kerry thought it was a good idea to invade Iraq. A damn shame that he still holds such a powerful position.

then got nominated as an anti iraq war candidate lol.

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

I hate to say it, but outside of the last sentence, this is one of the truest statements Nicky has ever made

i'm just sayin, in israel they discuss this openly, in america you are asked to resign, do you think that's by chance? or because of the israeli lobby machine in the us?

american politicians are sometimes more neo zionist than israeli politicians.

 

[Jukai]

i'm just sayin, in israel they discuss this openly, in america you are asked to resign, do you think that's by chance? or because of the israeli lobby machine in the us?

american politicians are sometimes more neo zionist than israeli politicians.

I think it has to do with the strong Israeli lobby machine but more because the GOP is so fucking shark like and nonsensically vicious that they will pounce on any populist point they can get to fuck over the other party.

 

[Quipling]

It's worth mentioning that when people discuss "The israeli lobby" in the U.S., they are discussing several different entities with different interests, but often are referring to an organization that strongly favors support of the right-wing of Israeli politics.

An analogy for americans might be an organization in China that lobbys for the interests of predominantely republican businessmen that is called "the american lobby"

 

[Its Me Austin]

then got nominated as an anti iraq war candidate lol.

It was just as bad as Romney being a nominee in 12.

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

I think it has to do with the strong Israeli lobby machine but more because the GOP is so fucking shark like and nonsensically vicious that they will pounce on any populist point they can get to fuck over the other party.

that too! lol.

but if it was said about any other country it wouldn't be this bad.

 

[Jukai]

that too! lol.

but if it was said about any other country it wouldn't be this bad.

Not sure about that, I don't think any other ally is doing shit like Israel is doing mostly because no other ally would be in a conflict for 70-years and not be allowed to wipe the other side out.

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

Not sure about that, I don't think any other ally is doing shit like Israel is doing mostly because no other ally would be in a conflict for 70-years and not be allowed to wipe the other side out.

no any other ally would have been forced to make peace decades ago by the un, israel gets special consideration.

 

[Jedi Silva]

It still amazes me how a hyper-power can be so politically in thrall to such a small demographic. I just don't understand it. The Dems and Repubs can't agree on what color the sky is but when it comes to to isreal they are tripping over each other for a chance to suck that countries dick.

(Disclaimer: Not a jew-hater or anything like that)

On the money, more than conspiracy theories is the conjunction of interest. Neo Conservatives support Israel because Israel is run by right wing hard liners, always ready to kill some Arabs and Israel is always the best opportunity to have the next war, Iran? And we know how Right wingers love to keep the possibility of a war open. Also there is the christian thing, but I am not sure to which extent is true.

The left is very conflicted about Israel, for the Jewish Americans they are all love, Jewish American basically define and articulate what a sound Liberal policy is. NYT, Paul Krugman, Jon Stewart, Bill maher,CNN and much of the media. Usually the best and most articulate left wing pundits are Jews.

The left and much of the Jewish Americans, see Israel like that Crazy uncle that has a gun threats to shot off anyone who seems treating, says a bunch blunt things from time to time, embarrasses you in front of you friends etc. At the same time he is "family" can't degrade him, you got to keep in doors and try to down play it as much as possible, after all, blood is thicker than water.

So in summary, is basically a conjunction of factors, the right you got a trigger happy Israel, with a New conservative always willing to embarrass the current president in Netanyahu And for the left is that crazy uncle that you disagree so much with it, but still is part of the family.

The mistake now though, is that they believe by surprising open criticism of Israel in the media and through politicians, that they can keep their dirt in a good light and that their control and influence goes unnoticed. Yet, more and more when you actually read people direct perceptions in forums, newspapers stories etc. usually 80% of the people are very critical of Israel and don't appreciate their influence more and more.

There is a storm coming for Israel, if they don't begin doing right thing and get their act together.

 

[Jukai]

If it hasn't been stated enough, Netanyahu is really fucking crazy