John Danaher: “Khabib thicker, bigger, and heavier than GSP throughout career”.

[Thepaintbucket]

As it's already been said walking weight is worthless and If you seriously think 155lb peak khabib was even remotely as big as GSP from a few years back, or at the peak of GSPs career at 170, I don't know what to say lol.

 

[Joss]

You guys don't understand its about the frame. If Khabib put on the same amount of muscle on his frame he'd be LHW or something. GSP-s frame is smaller than Khabibs. Khabibs torso is like a concrete block.

 

[ClosetVitorFan]

and everyone has either ignored you or countered you because you are talking out of your arse. Tony and Kevin Lee are massive LW...but strangely you dont mention them...#ClosetKhabibhater

No doubt in my mind Khabib is bigger than both Tony and Lee. It's not being a hater. If he can make the weight that's fine. Connor killed himself to make 145. And Khabib missed weight a couple times.

 

[MCS]

One cuts to 155, the other to 170. One stays in shape, the other gets fat. This is number one bullshit, homer.

 

[mst-dot]

I know lol, some people are just legitimately smart. I've seen this criticism of Danaher so often, I honestly think a lot of people are too dumb to comprehend what he says sometimes and think he's just being pretentious.

You can be smart and pretentious.

This is a criticism often thrown at guys like john Danaher and Luke thomas..

 

[mjfan23]

Khabib ducked Jon Jones confirmed.


But who is this guy? How does he know how heavy they feel (whatever that means)?

 

[BrockLesnarsTurtleBack]

no hes not, hes the right size for LW, its just dumbarse Conor load garglers who want to make out that their boy wasnt a weight bully at FW and that he was ' moving up' ( reality moving to his natural weight class) and fighting the bigger( IE his size) guys. There was 2lb difference between Khabib and Conor on fight night..
Dont kid yourself that Conor does it easily , he has made comments in the past about the difficulty in weight cutting, why do you think he fought Cerone at WW? because he CBF weight cutting to LW.
A LW trying not to cut LW by fighting at WW weight brackets but still wanting it to count as LW..LOLOLOL He was going to try it again at his next fight until Dana put a stop to that .
Conor will never ever be fighting at FW again..

Neither will Khabib ever fight at LW again.

Conor made the FW division, with less struggles than Khabib had in LW. Those are the facts... it's not my problem that you don't like it.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

don’t you think that various people who are actually responsible for these innovations should get some credit too? Not just the guy who brought them over to jiujitsu?

the Luta livre guys, catch wrestlers, japanese jujutsu practitioners and others that either came up with these systems or helped pass them down in a continuous lineage.

I got leglocked by my friend who did traditional Japanese jujutsu. He wasn’t great in other positions but when we hit 50/50 he caught me in a leg lock that I have not seen to this day again.

there is so much history in martial arts to learn from and it’s all there for you to access. Hundreds of years of trial and error, you just have to know how to sift through all the bullshit. Danaher isn’t the only one who knows how to do this. He is also good at reorganising it into a system that is relevant to Brazilian jiujitsu today. He does deserve credit there too.

He just so happen to be one of the few to be open minded amongst his peers who are all still part of that bjj cult mentality of ‘we are the cutting edge of martial arts.’ Walking around the dojo like they are in Silicon Valley. Now those same leeches have attached themselves onto Danaher and are completely oblivious to the historical context of what he is actually doing.

Yes they all get credit, but who help make it mainstream in BJJ? Who created set ups in BJJ particularly for it? Who designed a whole system for leg locks in BJJ? You have to give credit where it's due. Yes lots of other people are responsible for it, that's like trying to take credit away from the Gracie's and creating BJJ just because techniques were orignially from Japanese Jujutsu. They changed the way you apply the techniques and set ups for it, which in turn made it new.

 

[fortheo]

You guys don't understand its about the frame. If Khabib put on the same amount of muscle on his frame he'd be LHW or something. GSP-s frame is smaller than Khabibs. Khabibs torso is like a concrete block.

Khabib's got that ninja turtle like back, too.

 

[Prudlioto]

Danaher is comparing cock size.

 

[krelianx]

For real, most of Pure Mathematics imo are giant wanking session, but those giant wanking are not necessarily useless. Because like abstract algebra sometimes you will find some of its properties in quantum physics.

Or like the use of imaginary numbers in Schrodinger's wave equation. Which is mindblowing application/useage of pure maths to me.

What I am saying is that, part of academic fields are just 'playground for adult'. Ted Kaczynski shared this same sentiment.

Like chess. Chess is inherently useless to society unless if it was turned to a sport, or a competition.

I am undermining Bertrand Russel status as a philosopher simply due to his inability to appreciate Hegel.

It's not due to jealousy like how Schopenhauer felt on Hegel's stature in their college in 1800s which is far more respectable.

I'm not insulting higher education, but what I will say is this: many of these experts are not necessarily wiser or useful to the world at large. They may happened to be more eloquent to address or to be nuanced to articulate abstract thoughts - but life is more than that.

Some of our approach to life and universe will not be useful or wise - but you can't see this if you spend your life concentrating in one or two fields which are kinda similar.

Yeah man, Betrand Russell is overrated because he didn't appreciate Hegel. And pure mathematics is just masturbatory, unless it is applied or applicable to practical purposes.

The sad part is that you think you have the knowledge or capacity to actually judge the relevance someone like Russell. It's pathetic, actually.

 

[SteelEz]

He huuuge

 

[Greyscale]

People here were seriously telling me he was smaller than McGregor and Poirier, lol.

 

[Bacco]

 

[Squarechoke]

Khabib ducked Jon Jones confirmed.


But who is this guy? How does he know how heavy they feel (whatever that means)?

He's a BJJ instructor (sixth degree black belt under Renzo), has a PhD in philosophy and is one of the smartest guys I've listened to in the MMA world.

I know GSP has trained with him but I'm not sure of his experiences with Khabib.

 

[glavinator]

Lol what? Khabib may have been heavier in between fights because he has terrible diet discipline and gets really fat, but in terms of frame and pure muscle georges was way bigger, especially on fight night. Khabib looked the same size or smaller than most his opponents on fight night

You prob know better than a guy who rolled with both of them a lot

 

[brownsmith76]

If Conor can fight at 170 pounds, then Khabib can fight at 170, too.

Khabib has strong grip strength and a strong core. Look at his chest and back. These are good for wrestling and grappling. If Khabib gets a bear hug on you, then it's going to be difficult to get him off of you if you are under 180 pounds.

 

[HHJ]

I like John Danaher,but he's talking a bit of the bollocks.

It were GSP what went up to MW,not Khabib. Slow down there,chief.

 

[HHJ]

I've been saying this for years and Khabib dick riders always covered for him. Saying hes "not that big of a LW" hes a massive LW.

We didnt listen to you back then,and we dont listen to you now. Which makes us,pretty much,like anyone else.

 

[CPH]

The term weight bully is so misused on these forums. Conor and Max at 145, Khabib at 155, GSP at 170, Jones at 205 - none of these guys are/were weight bullies and it is retarded to suggest that they were.

If you make the weight and are fighting other fighters who are elite at that weight, you are not a weight bully.

A true weight bully is a guy like Jake Paul, a cruiserweight who lures washed wrestlers into boxing matches. I have utter contempt for that guy. Biggest bitch in combat sports, hands down.