Joe Rogan isnt sold on the Bing Bang theory finds Jesus resurrection more plausible

[Hog-train]

"However, 54% of weekly JRE listeners leaned toward Donald Trump in the 2024 US presidential election in a late October poll; just 26% favored Kamala Harris. (Rogan endorsed Trump on the eve of the election.)"

from your link. not to nitpick, but that doesnt seem like a balanced audience if over 2x the number of people vote for one candidate rather than the other.

in the end though, Rogan's opinion shouldnt influence anyone. the guy is a grey blob, a fence sitter, a wishy washy wet noodle. he changes his opinions according to who he is interviewing, generally.

Since when it is it a requirement for his audience to be "balanced?"

Most of his audience are males - many of which are MMA fans. They tend to be more supportive of Trump.

 

[Bob Gray]

"However, 54% of weekly JRE listeners leaned toward Donald Trump in the 2024 US presidential election in a late October poll; just 26% favored Kamala Harris. (Rogan endorsed Trump on the eve of the election.)"

from your link. not to nitpick, but that doesnt seem like a balanced audience if over 2x the number of people vote for one candidate rather than the other.

in the end though, Rogan's opinion shouldnt influence anyone. the guy is a grey blob, a fence sitter, a wishy washy wet noodle. he changes his opinions according to who he is interviewing, generally.

I mean, Harris lost badly. There was a massive shift towards Trump in that election. Its not as simple as Harris Voter vs Trump Voter.

 

[Bob Gray]

Any idea why he completely ignored Wladimir Klitschko's request to come on the pod and correct the misinformation and propaganda that he felt was coming from some of the guests or Rogan himself?

Rogan not only didn't bring him on the pod (it's been months), he completely ignored it as if it didn't exist, no rebuttal, no comment, nothing.

The same guy who was talking about litter boxes in classrooms somehow didn't know a famous world class elite boxer was directly reaching him out to him on an important current events topic lol.

Hes a pussy and he definitely caters to his audience. He'll always blow where the wind is going, and he's very careful to not disrupt the momentum. In LA, nonstop talk of DMT and the power of cannabis. In Texas, keep everything hush hush and don't bring up how Texas is one of the most ridiculous states when it comes to state legalization (since hes now butt buddies with Abott and Paxton)

The new Rush Limbaugh.

I have no idea why he makes any decisions. Why are you asking me?

You guys are absolutely bonkers if you think money is what motivate people like Rogan. Rogans a weed bro that digs stories about UFOs and Bigfoot. Having these people come on his show and shooting the shit with them while commentating for the UFC on his off time is the guys absolute dream come true. He's not in the background saying "Oh, what can I say to appease Trump voters who listen to my mega podcast channel that needs absolutely zero growth whatsoever and if I made another 10 million dollars from it, I wouldn't even notice?"

He got one of the most ridiculous podcast contract ever. He doesn't need any money. Money is inconsequential to him at this point.

Its basically a conspiracy theory based on nothing but your own political bias. Its projection.

 

[MrShady]

I have no idea why he makes any decisions. Why are you asking me?

You guys are absolutely bonkers if you think money is what motivate people like Rogan. Rogans a weed bro that digs stories about UFOs and Bigfoot. Having these people come on his show and shooting the shit with them while commentating for the UFC on his off time is the guys absolute dream come true. He's not in the background saying "Oh, what can I say to appease Trump voters who listen to my mega podcast channel that needs absolutely zero growth whatsoever and if I made another 10 million dollars from it, I wouldn't even notice?"

Its basically a conspiracy theory based on nothing but your own political bias. Its projection.

People like you are clowns who always correlate money with power/attention.

Of course Rogan doesn't give a shit about making more money (but of course they do, that's how a millionaire becomes a billionaire, it's an addiction you may never understand and that's a good thing).

More important than money, is the ATTENTION. People like Rogan feed off that attention, they needed it ever since they were kids who didn't get it from their fathers who abandoned them.

People in Rogan's position not only crave to be the number one most watched/listened podcast, they can't live being the number 2. It hits their ego more than you may realize.

 

[White Whale]

Since when it is it a requirement for his audience to be "balanced?"

Most of his audience are males - many of which are MMA fans. They tend to be more supportive of Trump.

It's crazy they bring that up when NPR which receives government funding had no Republicans in editorial positions.

Joe Rogan just has conversations with people and many of his listeners are truck drivers.

 

[Blastbeat]

Since when it is it a requirement for his audience to be "balanced?"

Most of his audience are males - many of which are MMA fans. They tend to be more supportive of Trump.

i was responding to the post i quoted saying that Rogan's audience was pretty evenly politically split. i dont think it is, and i quoted the voting percentages to reinforce my point.

male MMA fans might be more supportive of Trump, but i am unsure about men as a group. Rogan had Bernie Sanders on not too long ago and lots of guys like him.

 

[Blastbeat]

But he does have influence, especially to the impressionable "bros".

i know, i said he shouldnt, not that he doesnt.
celebrity worship is cringe

 

[heloder]

Mathematically.... it takes far more faith to believe in the Big Bang Theory without a high power than to believe in Intelligent Design. The Atheists are some of those with the greatest faith and many of them are too dumb and/or arrogant to realize it.

I like how you put the word "mathematically" at the front, apropos of nothing, to make that statement sound less dumb. I mean, you do realize that putting that word there actually defeats your own statement? Because if you're going solely by the mathematics, the Big Bang Theory is the only one there that actually makes sense.

I do think it's funny that you think believing in the Big Bang Theory, which has loads of evidence pointing towards it, takes way more faith to believe than this other thing which has absolutely no evidence pointing towards it.

 

[ermac88]

Rogan slams atheists for believing big bang, "I'm sticking with Jesus"...

Joe Rogan sticking with Jesus. Sounds like something trump would say after an Epstein party



Is this after he did a line of coke or shrooms ?

Assuming thats still what he talks about.

 

[Andy Capp]

Where will have all the energy gone when the last black hole decays into a state without mass? What is the difference between that final stage of the universe and what existed "before" it? If something can become nothing why can't nothing become something? Philosophical and not testable science but at least it attempts to push the limits of our cause and effect based intelligence. Saying god did it is is just giving up trying to understand creation by kicking the can down the road.

That is called the heat death of the universe, where all the black holes have evaporated leaving only photons criss-crossing the entire universe in every direction. The expected time this process will take was recently shown to take far less time than previously believed, most likely. The new calculation puts the figure at around 10^78 hundred million years.

The physics actually says explicitly that something can come from nothing, especially if the nothingness is absolute, which is how they think the big bang occurred. Check out the link I posted earlier ITT.

 

[SurferH2O]

I like how you put the word "mathematically" at the front, apropos of nothing, to make that statement sound less dumb. I mean, you do realize that putting that word there actually defeats your own statement? Because if you're going solely by the mathematics, the Big Bang Theory is the only one there that actually makes sense.

I do think it's funny that you think believing in the Big Bang Theory, which has loads of evidence pointing towards it, takes way more faith to believe than this other thing which has absolutely no evidence pointing towards it.

No dummy. You didn't follow. The Big Bang Theory could be part of Intelligent Design. Please follow along.

The exceptional amount of extreme outliers required to make it just a chance occurrence from chaos requires absolute extreme faith. To be an Atheist means you defy Math.

 

[Bob Gray]

People like you are clowns who always correlate money with power/attention.

Of course Rogan doesn't give a shit about making more money (but of course they do, that's how a millionaire becomes a billionaire, it's an addiction you may never understand and that's a good thing).

More important than money, is the ATTENTION. People like Rogan feed off that attention, they needed it ever since they were kids who didn't get it from their fathers who abandoned them.

People in Rogan's position not only crave to be the number one most watched/listened podcast, they can't live being the number 2. It hits their ego more than you may realize.

Yeah, like I said. Its just conspiracy theories and assumptions based on than your own bias.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

The Bing

I almost feel sorry for the poor simpletons who think Rogan is profound.

Yeah, the big bang is implausible- it's MORE plausible that a magical guy in the sky flicked his bic and created the universe in an instant. OK.

The big Bang is just the most plausible theory we have at the moment to explain the existence of our universe it certainly isn't written in stone .

Personally I like the theory that we are in a black hole ... It's incredibly interesting

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Lma

No dummy. You didn't follow. The Big Bang Theory could be part of Intelligent Design. Please follow along.

The exceptional amount of extreme outliers required to make it just a chance occurrence from chaos requires absolute extreme faith. To be an Atheist means you defy Math.

Lmao

 

[MrShady]

Yeah, like I said. Its just conspiracy theories and assumptions based on than your own bias.

Easy to say that about most subjects if you wish to remain ignorant.

He went from "I would never have Trump on because I don't want to help or humanize him" to "Yeah I just want to have a conversation".

You know why? Because Theo had him on first. Can't handle being the number 2 guy, especially to another comedian who Rogan himself brought out to the public sphere.

 

[TUFNewb]

That is called the heat death of the universe, where all the black holes have evaporated leaving only photons criss-crossing the entire universe in every direction. The expected time this process will take was recently shown to take far less time than previously believed, most likely. The new calculation puts the figure at around 10^78 hundred million years.

The physics actually says explicitly that something can come from nothing, especially if the nothingness is absolute, which is how they think the big bang occurred. Check out the link I posted earlier ITT.

Photons don't have mass so what does it mean that the only things that exist don't have any scale in the context of time and space? Is that uniformly distributed state of thermodynamic equilibrium actually "nothing"?

The idea something from nothing is derived from the principals of quantum uncertainty, which we can observe to an extent. It still doesn't address the philosophical aspects though, how can this quantum uncertainty exist? How can there be physics in the first place? How is it that these constants exist in what we think of as reality? It's sort of like asking what is north of the north pole, it's a dumb question lol.

 

[Andy Capp]

I tend to agree with him that the Big Bang theory sounds just as ridiculous if not more…and there is no less “faith” connected to that theory once you ask somebody to expand on it. Just like the resurrection

Lol, big bang is even dumber idea than made up jealous man god making it all.

Both are peak cope for having no answer.

The big bang theory is just a theory, we have no idea if it's correct. We just theorize that all matter had a starting point because of the expanding universe but we really don't know.

Please see my post from earlier in the thread, quoted below since you may have missed it, judging by these posts.

I disagree that the big bang is implausible. I concur with Stephen Hawking on this subject.

Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe

Stephen Hawking, in his final book, argues there's no possibility of God existing because time didn't exist before the Big Bang.

www.livescience.com

To Hawking and many like-minded scientists, the combined laws of gravity, relativity, quantum physics and a few other rules could explain everything that ever happened or ever will happen in our known universe.

"If you like, you can say the laws are the work of God, but that is more a definition of God than a proof of his existence," Hawking wrote.

With the universe running on a scientifically guided autopilot, the only role for an all-powerful deity might be setting the initial conditions of the universe so that those laws could take shape — a divine creator who caused the Big Bang to bang, then stepped back to behold His work.

"Did God create the quantum laws that allowed the Big Bang to occur?" Hawking wrote. "I have no desire to offend anyone of faith, but I think science has a more compelling explanation than a divine creator."

"The universe itself, in all its mind-boggling vastness and complexity, could simply have popped into existence without violating the known laws of nature," he wrote.

That still doesn't explain away the possibility that God created that proton-size singularity, then flipped the quantum- mechanical switch that allowed it to pop. But Hawking says science has an explanation here, too. To illustrate, he points to the physics of black holes — collapsed stars that are so dense, nothing, including light, can escape their pull.

Black holes, like the universe before the Big Bang, condense into a singularity. In this ultra-packed point of mass, gravity is so strong that it distorts time as well as light and space. Simply put, in the depths of a black hole, time does not exist.

Because the universe also began as a singularity, time itself could not have existed before the Big Bang. Hawking's answer, then, to what happened before the Big Bang is, "there was no time before the Big Bang."

"We have finally found something that doesn’t have a cause, because there was no time for a cause to exist in," Hawking wrote. "For me this means that there is no possibility of a creator, because there is no time for a creator to have existed in."

It's not "faith", it's not cope, it's not "just a theory. It's a consistent framework for every single experimental observation of the universe since man first noticed the phases of the moon.

You may just be trolling, or just too uninformed on the subject to speak so authoritatively, but that kind of shit is what helps cast doubt on the reliability of Scientific Method and that's a harmful. GPS is so accurate because we have a complete understanding of how time dilation affects the passage of time for the satellites relative to the surface of the Earth. Is that just faith or cope?

 

[Andy Capp]

Photons don't have mass so what does it mean that the only things that exist don't have any scale in the context of time and space? Is that uniformly distributed state of thermodynamic equilibrium actually "nothing"?

The idea something from nothing is derived from the principals of quantum uncertainty, which we can observe to an extent. It still doesn't address the philosophical aspects though, how can this quantum uncertainty exist? How can there be physics in the first place? How is it that these constants exist in what we think of as reality? It's sort of like asking what is north of the north pole, it's a dumb question lol.

No one is claiming that a universe filled with photons is nothing, but rather the final step in the evolution of the universe we live in. The claim is that there was nothing and then the big bang happened. After that, it evolved according to the laws of physics and will continue to do so forever.

There will not be an equilibrium because as the universe continues to expand and density decreases, the photons we're talking about become ever more dispersed. Eventually, there may even be empty regions of space large enough for the process to start all over again, resulting in new big bangs, though I admit that last bit is speculative.

 

[Andy Capp]

The Bing
The big Bang is just the most plausible theory we have at the moment to explain the existence of our universe it certainly isn't written in stone .

Personally I like the theory that we are in a black hole ... It's incredibly interesting

I strongly disagree. Again, I think it's important to understand that there is a difference between "did the big bang happen?" and "what is the origin of the big bang?"

 

[DoctorTaco]

highly stylized and crafted for the authors intended theological purposes?

Sounds like that’s a fancy way of saying, “explain away the magic”. There’s tons of magic in the New Testament too. Did Jesus perform magic or was that also highly stylized and crafted for the authors theological purposes?