You can but that doesn't change what I said. You can have a conversation about damn near anything with talking about every aspect of that thing. Meaningless statement.
Trump ran on repealing the ACA. He was not a pro-liberal health care reformist: as far from it as possible. He and Bernie, who promoted a single payer system, the opposite of small government, were diametrically opposed on that issue. Everyone boasted they would clamp down on Wall Street abuse, and helping the middle class. It's how they promised to do that made them different.
Concession noted. You should've called it a day earlier, there was no need for it to go this far.
While you raise some good points in a general sense, and which I agree with in a general sense, in my particular case, you're looking at it the wrong way. Again you're citing a political compass I took only a few months ago AFTER my views had already changed. At the time we're talking about, political compass tests I took reflected that I was a center-right libertarian. Furthermore I was not overall a fan of Trump. I was highly critical of BOTH Trump and Hillary (and frankly I still am). I briefly supported Trump as the lesser of two evils because I believed that having Napolitano on the Supreme Court would be a godsend. You're a smart guy, but rather obtuse at times. You have to look at things in perspective and context rather than jumping on anything that satisfies your confirmation bias and preconceived notions.
You responded and continue to respond to me, stop trying to twist it.I concede nothing. I'm just done with you.
You made a statement, i responded, you claim my response has nothing to do with your statement. Fine.
This thread is not about race anyways and both know that conversation is not going to produce anything anyways.
SO have a good day
Of fuck off.
Or just stop derailing the thread.
Whatever works for you.
Heres a nice ass to promote an amicable ending to this conversation.
There's only one reason, it's easier to polarize and put and an idiot on a pedestal for everyone to gawk at. I don't find Trump to be far off from that.
Well, that's how my Poli Sci teacher explained it to me when I was taking college classes at 15. Can't say I see otherwise 10 years later.
Would you look at that, a reasonable shartdogger. How refreshing.
That shit is disturbing, those same types of peoples created that honey boo boo thing
Can't say I disagree with anything you said there. I had a guy in my poli sci class when I was 15 and I believed that socialized healthcare was the beginning of socialism whose story gave me a different perspective. In my shoes at the time I had full health care coverage under my dad, so I'd say I was ignorant to stuff like that because I just didn't know, but I'll never forget when we had a discussion on socialized health care and this Indian/Sikh guy quietly listened to what the entire group had to say and told his us his story. This guy was maybe 19-21, but he was already 1.2 million in debt because of all the cancer treatments he's been going through and said he already knows at this point in his life that he will be forever in debt. That got me thinking, fast forward 10 years later and I got medical now and these dudes took over 1 year just to cover an x-ray that I got done last June for a broken finger. Every single lettter or form of textual contact I've had with medical is downright convoluted. I always wondered why my dad would have to fly to see his parents just to help them with their medical/medicare paperwork because the stuff is so confusing I don't think someone with a basic education would be able to circumvent these issues. There were some letters they've sent me that literally aren't even grammatically proper, or make any logical sense. I don't know how many times I've had to ask my parents, who are both PHd drop outs, to help me read these letters they send and even they have a hard time understanding much of what they say in these letters. What's stupid is I was supposed to be initially covered for that x-ray but because some dumb ass didnt 'link' my foodstamp account with my medical account so it made my medical inactive at the time. The worst part is I sent in a waiver form for it 3 times, 2 of those times the fax numbers I was given went nowhere, when they did receive the 3rd one they sent me another convoluted letter about how they weren't going to cover it because of some bs. Then a month later I got another one of those dreaded bills in the mail, but low and behold it was a letter stating that it would be covered. I literally had 3 ear infections, and a lung infection last semester but I refused to go to the doctor out of fear of being raped for my money. I have a fear of going to the doctor now, especially after I was forced against my will San Francisco EMT's when I was 20 into a 2 block ambulance ride that cost my parent's insurance company 40k. I failed my EMT certification so I knew all the laws told them so, and they broke them. These guys didn't even know they had to turn on the oxygen tank before they stick a nasal cannula in you. That wasn't even the worst part, these dumb fucks strapped me to a backboard while I was being surrounded by an entire skate contest worth of people and motherfuckers start fighting around and over me while they were trying to move me out of there. Then I got to bleed out for 4 hours while looking like I had dumped my head in a bucket of blood. These fools forgot about me and I was stuck in a hallway the entire time and had to watch some old lady get 5150'd as she ripped out her fucking urethra waste device. No one helped me until I started making a scene waving bloody hands around and repeating WHAT THE FUCK. Then these fucking cunts made me wait in some basement floor for another 2 hours so they could assemble a bunch of premed students who all took turns giving me local anesthesia. I don't even want to get into the prescription drug trade but man is the health care system sheitsty and this is why I have an innate fear of the government having too much control over anything.
I saw that double yellow card and had a similar reaction.
San Francisco General Hospital is run by the government, the 40k two-block ride was facilitated by a government-run EMT company and I wouldn't have been in that situation had I not been helped my people who barely passed their EMT-B class, Medical is run by the government and is literally the most unpolished pos, but surely you've never had trouble with a government-run agency? You ever try to get a passport? that's where the term going postal comes from. Anything and everything run by the government is convoluted and inefficient.
