Joe Rogan completely self obsessed and annoying (Curtis Blaydes vs Jailton Almeida) UFC 299

[Brendan The Hybrid Schaub]

man did you know steel cups can help with an armbar? you know leg kicks really changed the game

 

[Howard Moon]

man did you know steel cups can help with an armbar? you know leg kicks really changed the game

Did you know Randy Couture actually preferred half guard to mount?

 

[fzoid4454]

Rogan does seem to get overly obsessed with certain things (usually if he likes a fighter) .

I like Wonderboy Thompson, very good fighter and nice guy, but Rogan goes hysterical every time he throws a basic leg kick, but when the opponents lands flush shots to Thompsons face, Rogan just ignores it and keeps going on about a leg kick that Thompson threw.

That's literally what happened with the first Machida/Shogun fight, which was actually a closely contested fight.

 

[YSB]

When Joe still understood he was there to entertain people as a color commentator, he was fine.

Then he shaved his head for no reason, got a podcast, took enough HGH to kill an elephant, and started thinking he was the ultimate authority on MMA.

 

[BigNick100]

The whole bit when Joe kept saying he thought Curtis Blaydes caught Jailton Almeida coming in with an uppercut.

It was pretty obvious that it wasnt the case and it was a similar KO to Travis Browne vs Josh Barnett back in the day.

But Joe just wouldnt let it go, asks the people controlling the broadcast to show the clip again in slomo - even after DC said that there wasnt an uppercut.

THEN..

Joe goes into the cage and the first thing he asks Curtis is whether he hit Almeida with an uppercut and Curtis says No.

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Was very annoying listen to Joe doing all this purely because he cant accept that he was wrong.

*As a side note i saw Joe Rogan perform comedy live and when he came out he was legit 5'4 lol

As sherdoger self obsessed with Rogan is kinda weird too...

 

[Howard Moon]

self obsessed with Rogan

Self obsessed means obsessed with self.

Self obsessed with someone else is like a leg kick to the head.

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

Prove it. Go start your own show and do what he does if hes so bad at

I could not say the stupid shit he says 95% of the time with a straight face. His talent is being just dumb enough to appeal to Muricans.

 

[Megatronlee]

I could not say the stupid shit he says 95% of the time with a straight face. His talent is being just dumb enough to appeal to Muricans.

Excuses. Go get rich

 

[AstralPanda]

Sometimes I wonder what some of you nerds look like

It feels a projection of insecurity

Like you want to feel this strange imaginary sort of superiority over Rogan.

So you just highlight anything and everything he does, even corny irrelevant shit.

That kind of hate never comes from above.

 

[AstralPanda]

Rogan is what stupid people think smart people sound like.

Rogan plays the fool

As in he plays far dumber than he actually is for the general audience.

I would question the intelligence of anyone who can't see it. They definitely don't know anywhere near as much as they think.

They're unable to see past the layers and masks that public figures show to the general audience.

You see glimpses of his real self come out in slices. Mostly with pertaining to more mystical, occult, philosophical topics and anything related to psychedelics, also martial arts.

Even then, it's likely to be highly controlled, just because of the sheer amount of topics that need to be danced around on a public platform.

Not everyone with a brain needs to use big words and come off like a standard intellectual. That sort of thinking just puts you in a box.

Many brilliant humans abhor that sort of mentality and do the bare minimum, not even attempting to fit in the standard confines of what is viewed as intelligent.

There's also much to be said about the multiple forms of intelligence beyond the mind. Particularly social, which is another layer in itself.

All entertainers at that level are at the highest level of social competency.


Seems you may have some sort of derangement syndrome when it comes to Rogan. Nothing accurate will ever come from such bias.

Emotions is never how you analyze anything, it has to be done cold. Words of wisdom that would help many here on a wide array of topics.

 

[krelianx]

Rogan plays the fool

As in he plays far dumber than he actually is for the general audience.

I would question the intelligence of anyone who can't see it. They definitely don't know anywhere near as much as they think.

They're unable to see past the layers and masks that public figures show to the general audience.

You see glimpses of his real self come out in slices. Mostly with pertaining to more mystical, occult, philosophical topics and anything related to psychedelics, also martial arts.

Even then, it's likely to be highly controlled, just because of the sheer amount of topics that need to be danced around on a public platform.

Not everyone with a brain needs to use big words and come off like a standard intellectual. That sort of thinking just puts you in a box.

Many brilliant humans abhor that sort of mentality and do the bare minimum, not even attempting to fit in the standard confines of what is viewed as intelligent.

There's also much to be said about the multiple forms of intelligence beyond the mind. Particularly social, which is another layer in itself.

All entertainers at that level are at the highest level of social competency.


Seems you may have some sort of derangement syndrome when it comes to Rogan. Nothing accurate will ever come from such bias.

Emotions is never how you analyze anything, it has to be done cold. Words of wisdom that would help many here on a wide array of topics.

His takes on 'philosophy', mysticism, occult things are among the dumbest things he speaks about routinely. Unless, of course, you've never actually read a serious book by any actual philosopher. Then it sure as Hell sounds 'profound'.

 

[Tweak896]

Looked to me like how Barnett got KO'd. I don't expect commentators to get it right every time. Slow mo proved me right when I was wondering about Joe.

 

[AstralPanda]

His takes on 'philosophy', mysticism, occult things are among the dumbest things he speaks about routinely. Unless, of course, you've never actually read a serious book by any actual philosopher. Then it sure as Hell sounds 'profound'.

I don't think he's ever trying to sound profound.

That's the thing.

It's just a lot of ideas thrown into the air in a way that's more presentable to the audience.

If you read between the lines, Rogan is way deeper into all of that stuff than he let's on.

But it's his job to play the fool, because it makes the material more relatable and understandable to the audience.

Which is how an entertainer tends to operate.

This is also very true of comedians, many are brilliant. But they don't show their full hand, they break off slices in a way that's presentable.

If they went straight to the abyss, what would happen? You'd just alienate your audience.

I believe he's infinitely deeper into mysticism, occultism and entheogenic truths than he ever let's on. Nobody who's been meditating and had an isolation tank for 20 years is not.

But those things aren't meant to be talked about so haphazardly.

You'll understand a person more by what they don't talk about than anything.

And again, it's that failure to read between the lines which calls into question your own perception and ability to analyze others.

It comes across very surface level, mixed in with some slight derangement ayndrome.

 

[krelianx]

I don't think he's ever trying to sound profound.

That's the thing.

It's just a lot of ideas thrown into the air in a way that's more presentable to the audience.

If you read between the lines, Rogan is way deeper into all of that stuff than he let's on.

But it's his job to play the fool, because it makes the material more relatable and understandable to the audience.

If you actually had a discussion with him off air, I believe he's infinitely deeper into mysticism, occultism and entheogenic truths than he ever let's on. Nobody who's been meditating and had an isolation tank for 20 years is not.

But those things aren't meant to be talked about so haphazardly.

You'll understand a person more by what they don't talk about than anything.

And again, it's that failure to read between the lines which calls into question your own perception and ability to analyze others.

It comes across very surface level, mixed in with some slight derangement ayndrome.

No, actually, you are projecting a faux sense of esoteric wisdom attributed to some obscurantist notion of cognitive-spiritual depth that is hidden from the purview of common man, and thatis only accessible through psychedelics or other forms of alt-experiences. Because it allows you to think that the kind of elevator-pitch Enlightenment that Rogan-types and other obscurantists offer is a way to access some recondite illumination that the common folk cannot see.

I'm sorry, but if you think Joe Rogan is a wise person, you probably need to read more and do less isolation tank experiences.

 

[AstralPanda]

No, actually, you are projecting a faux sense of esoteric wisdom attributed to some obscurantist notion of cognitive-spiritual depth that is hidden from the purview of common man, and thatis only accessible through psychedelics or other forms of alt-experiences. Because it allows you to think that the kind of elevator-pitch Enlightenment that Rogan-types and other obscurantists offer is a way to access some recondite illumination that the common folk cannot see.

I'm sorry, but if you think Joe Rogan is a wise person, you probably need to read more and do less isolation tank experiences.

I know he's a wise person, in fact.

But then I also seem to be more astute at reading between the lines and seeing beyond the surface layers and masks of another than yourself.

You see a mask and mistake it for the soul, the higher unseen versions of the person.

Which only showcases that your own cup is too full. That you believe you know and see more than you actually do.

It's also glaringly clear how emotionally invested you are. Which makes it impossible for you to be objective, reasonable and balanced.

You're seeing what you want to see, in your own echo chamber. Not much else.

 

[krelianx]

I know he's a wise person, in fact.

But then I also seem to be more astute at reading between the lines and seeing beyond the surface layers and masks of another than yourself.

You see a mask and mistake it for the soul, the higher unseen versions of the person.

Which only showcases that your own cup is too full. That you believe you know and see more than you actually do.

It's also glaringly clear how emotionally invested you are. Which makes it impossible for you to be objective, reasonable and balanced.

You're seeing what you want to see, in your own echo chamber. Not much else.

It's actually quite a lot sadder. You think you have some exceptional ability to "read between the lines", which is exactly what I said: you believe yourself to possess some esoteric cognitive prowess that enables you to pierce beyond the veil of illusions in which common man dwells. Granted, owing to experiences that trangress the order of things: out of body experiences with psychedelics, isolation chambers to deprive ourselves of the deceptions of the senses and the delusions of the ego, and gurus outside the sterile courts of institutionalized knowledge, like Rogan. The recondite corners of the soul that remain unseen to those hostage to the material realm are, to you, disclosed and accessible, and with it a greater sense of empathy towards others, unclouded by emotional bias, bitterness, and petulance.

But of course if someone were to ask you about Plato, Aristotle, Kant, Hegel, Nietzsche, Goethe, Dante, Schiller, Heidegger, Kierkegaard, Aquinas, Deleuze, Badiou, Proust, Bergson, Asturias, Shariati... you would have nothing to say. Because, of course, that means you would have to read and actually think. And that's too much work. Better to stay in the realm of the ineffable, where 'true' illumination lies.

It's a rather fabulous way to justify one's laziness under the pretext that it is in truth the holder of a higher wisdom.

Simple question: how do you know he is a wise person?

 

[AstralPanda]

No, actually, you are projecting a faux sense of esoteric wisdom attributed to some obscurantist notion of cognitive-spiritual depth that is hidden from the purview of common man, and thatis only accessible through psychedelics or other forms of alt-experiences. Because it allows you to think that the kind of elevator-pitch Enlightenment that Rogan-types and other obscurantists offer is a way to access some recondite illumination that the common folk cannot see.

I'm sorry, but if you think Joe Rogan is a wise person, you probably need to read more and do less isolation tank experiences.

A wise man has more questions than he is certain

You seem so utterly certain about Rogan being this and that

And as a result, you fail to look deeper than those initial reads.

This isn't a way to analyze anyone. Or anything. It's a way to become a beacon of bias. Lost in your own false perception of intellectual superiority, while failing in crucial areas of discerning truth.

 

[AstralPanda]

It's actually quite a lot sadder. You think you have some exceptional ability to "read between the lines", which is exactly what I said: you believe yourself to possess some esoteric cognitive prowess that enables you pierce beyond the veil of illusions in which common man dwells. Granted, owing to experiences that trangress the order of things: out of body experiences with psychedelics, isolation chambers to deprive ourselves of the deceptions of the senses and the delusions of the ego. The recondite corners of the soul that remain unseen to those hostage to the material realm are, to you, disclosed and accessible, and with it a greater sense of empathy towards others, unclouded by emotional bias, bitterness, and petulance.

But of course if you someone were to ask you about Plato, Aristotle, Kant, Hegel, Nietzsche, Goethe, Dante, Schiller, Heidegger, Kierkegaard, Aquinas, Deleuze, Badiou, Proust, Bergson, Asturias, Shariati... you would have nothing to say. Because, of course, that means you would have to read and actually think. And that's too much work. Better to stay in the realm of the ineffable, where 'true' illumination lies.

It's fabulous way to justify one's laziness under the pretext that is in truth the holder of a higher wisdom.

There's nothing special about that ability. It's critical thought, asking questions, holding little conviction, with a good chunk of intuitive perception.

Some have it more than others.

Others have their own gifts.

Acknowledging Rogan is more than you believe him to be.

Has nothing to do with philosophical discipline and hard work.

Everything you mentioned is great. There's no shortcut for thinking and putting in the work and time.

But, that still doesn't mean what I'm saying is false either. Because it's glaringly clear that there's a lot you miss.

Your cup is so full to the point where you believe you see more than you actually do.

What did Nietzche say? Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies?

I don't doubt that you know a lot by the way, but there's definitely something missing when it comes to deeper perception In analyzing others.

Especially complex figures who tend to only show so much of themselves.

It's all good, we all have our areas. If you want to talk wisdom, I just think you'd be wise to play devils advocate a lot more.

Perhaps you'd be surprised at things you missed.

 

[AstralPanda]

@krelianx

Comedians are very tricky to read



They show so many versions of themselves, I can see how it would be hard to know which one to take seriously. So much of what they say is laced in metaphors, truth behind hidden behind walls and humor.



Entertainers in general are like magicians in a way. Actors. Creating all sorts of illusions behind their work, masks about who they are. There's a lot of PR, things they can't talk about, so you really only ever see a chunk of what they're about.



it's tricky stuff. That's why it's wise to never be too certain about any of them.



They're almost always a lot brighter than they appear to be.

 

[krelianx]

There's nothing special about that ability. It's critical thought, asking questions, holding little conviction, with a good chunk of intuitive perception.

Some have it more than others.

Others have their own gifts.

Acknowledging Rogan is more than you believe him to be.

Has nothing to do with philosophical discipline and hard work.

Everything you mentioned is great. There's no shortcut for thinking and putting in the work and time.

But, that still doesn't mean what I'm saying is false either. Because it's glaringly clear that there's a lot you miss.

Your cup is so full to the point where you believe you see more than you actually do.

What did Nietzche say? Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies?

I don't doubt that you know a lot by the way, but there's definitely something missing when it comes to deeper perception In analyzing others.

Especially complex figures who tend to only show so much of themselves.

It's all good, we all have our areas. If you want to talk wisdom, I just think you'd be wise to play devils advocate a lot more.

Perhaps you'd be surprised at things you missed.

Perfect example. You quote Nietzsche. An aphorism of his.

Do you know where it comes from? Do you know what it means? Have you actually read Nietzsche's works, and understand what he means by this?

Is it, as you seem to be suggesting, that Nietzsche is implying that dogmatic conviction prevents one from reaching the truths that we virtuously aspire to achieve, or is it actually saying that holding convictions provides more ammunition against an illusory idea of truth than merely lies.

What did Nietzsche think about truth? Did he think it was indeed a virtuous ideal?

See, this is what happens when your sense of wisdom comes from morsels of amputated information, knowledge, or elevator-pitch experiential shortcuts as opposed to patient meditation.

And yes, comedy and comedians can be indeed wise and insightful. Rogan is not, however, one of them.