JM Press

[KnightTemplar]

Does anyone use the JM Press in their training? I've heard a lot of good things about it, but never tried it myself. It looks like it could be hard on the elbows.

Thanks.

 

[deadshot138]

Does anyone use the JM Press in their training? I've heard a lot of good things about it, but never tried it myself. It looks like it could be hard on the elbows.

Thanks.

It is hard on the elbows but I like it. Err on the side of not going down far enough,

 

[rikwebb]

Does anyone use the JM Press in their training? I've heard a lot of good things about it, but never tried it myself. It looks like it could be hard on the elbows.

Thanks.

They can add some serious size to your triceps when done properly, but also you don't need to go too heavy wither especially with the positioning of the lift, even more so if you don't have a spotter.

I don't do them as much as i used to but every now and then i still knock a few sets out

 

[Poon Goon]

It is hard on the elbows but I like it. Err on the side of not going down far enough,

Seems that the current consensus is that most muscle gain is going to come from tension in the most stretched position. Lengthed partials are popular for that reason. If the goal is muscle growth then I don't understand why you'd purposely remove that part of the movement.

Maybe reduce the weight and see if you get a good stimulus. If you don't and it just hurts your elbows then maybe that's not the lift for you.

 

[deadshot138]

Seems that the current consensus is that most muscle gain is going to come from tension in the most stretched position. Lengthed partials are popular for that reason. If the goal is muscle growth then I don't understand why you'd purposely remove that part of the movement.

Maybe reduce the weight and see if you get a good stimulus. If you don't and it just hurts your elbows then maybe that's not the lift for you.

There's no definitive end range for JM presses. It's supposed to be when your forearms touch your biceps but that standard was set by roid monsters with huge forearms.

 

[Poon Goon]

There's no definitive end range for JM presses. It's supposed to be when your forearms touch your biceps but that standard was set by roid monsters with huge forearms.

Yes that's the natural end range for guys with big arms. That's probably why JM presses on the smith machine can work better for guys that don't have massive arms. When you said "not going down far enough" that sounds like a half rep to me. So it seems like using a lighter weight or different exercise to get into the fully stretched position would be a better use of time/energy.

 

[deadshot138]

Yes that's the natural end range for guys with big arms. That's probably why JM presses on the smith machine can work better for guys that don't have massive arms. When you said "not going down far enough" that sounds like a half rep to me. So it seems like using a lighter weight or different exercise to get into the fully stretched position would be a better use of time/energy.

Nah it's just the consequences of going down too far outweigh not going far enough lol I've taken JM presses too far down and your elbows instantly remind you of your error. They were my go to tricep builder when I was focused on powerlifting,

 

[Poon Goon]

Nah it's just the consequences of going down too far outweigh not going far enough lol I've taken JM presses too far down and your elbows instantly remind you of your error. They were my go to tricep builder when I was focused on powerlifting,

It sounds like we are having two different conversations then. I thought the point was gaining muscle size so that approach is going to be different than a strength accessory movement.

 

[deadshot138]

It sounds like we are having two different conversations then. I thought the point was gaining muscle size so that approach is going to be different than a strength accessory movement.

Yeah I would do more extension type movements for hypertrophy. The JM press was the supplemental bench movement and the extensions were accessories

 

[NoSmilez]

I used to do a lot of JM press. My arms are kinda big though for a normal guy so the ROM for JM press isn't crazy like touching my chin or something. It is probably 6 inches above that. There is no way for me to go really low while keeping my elbows up and in front like how the inventor of the press teaches it. I only did them in small sets of 5-8 with light to moderate weights. I never went over 185 lbs. I found that if I went heavier then I would cheat on it by flaring out elbows too much or letting it fall too much to the side. I did them with a thumbless grip so there was always this fear of dropping it on my neck if somehow my grip or tricep fails. It is easy to progressively overload though.

I never used it for hypertrophy purposes but it does get your triceps strong. The JM press never bothered my shoulders or elbows. I see it a press going up and a partial skull crusher going down. I haven't checked the internet about it in a long time. I am under the impression everyone does them slightly differently. I learned it from a Tate video and realized many years later that the creator had a different form than Tate. You kind of play with it a little with the bar only until you find the right angle/position. You will feel your triceps burn when you punch it up. Especially when you pause during the stretched position before you punch it up.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Yes that's the natural end range for guys with big arms. That's probably why JM presses on the smith machine can work better for guys that don't have massive arms. When you said "not going down far enough" that sounds like a half rep to me. So it seems like using a lighter weight or different exercise to get into the fully stretched position would be a better use of time/energy.

I was surprised to learn, given how many people don't like the Smith for benching and Squatting, that JM Presses on the Smith Machine have a lot of fans. For pretty much exactly the reason you state: if you don't have huge arm cannons, it's much easier and safer to use the Smith for JM's.