Social Jimmy Kimmel gets Canceled

[JudoThrowFiasco]

And that's the problem. Even a minor push is a 1st amendment violation.

So why are all of you MAGA supporters bending over backwards to pretend this isn't a first amendment violation? You keep pushing these narratives that don't change the fact that you're supporting tyranny.

I didn't say it wasn't... I'm saying Kimmel being dead weight is why ABC didn't push back.

 

[Alpha_T83]

I didn't say it wasn't... I'm saying Kimmel being dead weight is why ABC didn't push back.

... that's like saying someone deserved to be stabbed because their friends didn't do anything to help them, and just stood around watching.

Disgusting mindset.

 

[Starman]

It absolutely is a violation of the first amendment boot licking partisan coward. You believe in using the federal government to silence your opponents over protected speech.

Then I'll ask again, where in the constitution is ABC guaranteed the right air television programming for free on public airwaves? Where in the constitution is Jimmy Kimmel guaranteed a right to a job as a late night talk show host?

 

[Alpha_T83]

Then I'll ask again, where in the constitution is ABC guaranteed the right air television programming for free on public airwaves? Where in the constitution is Jimmy Kimmel guaranteed a right to a job as a late night talk show host?

It's in the Supreme Court precedents.

The Supreme Court has already ruled on several high profile cases that, once someone has a platform, the FCC cannot pressure networks to have that person's platform taken away.

I've already linked you these Supreme Court precedents.

 

[fedoriswar37]

Everybody has an opinion... Just some opinions should be kept to yourself.

No they should be shared . Just not on your employers time.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

... that's like saying someone deserved to be stabbed because their friends didn't do anything to help them, and just stood around watching.

Disgusting mindset.

Terrible analogy. It's more like a business who has pushed back against the state and FCC in the past didn't this time because they thought this specific product isn't worth it.

But we are not going to agree on this..so enjoy the rest of your day

 

[HereticBD]

... that's like saying someone deserved to be stabbed because their friends didn't do anything to help them, and just stood around watching.

No, that's a horrible analogy.

This is a useless shit getting taken off the air, because he's a net negative in the financial area, who was damaging the network's brand and made it clear that he was going to continue to do so, despite it being requested by his employers that he not. That's it.

 

[Alpha_T83]

No, that's a horrible analogy.

This is a useless shit getting taken off the air, because net negative in the financial area who was damaging the network's brand, and made it clear that he was going to continue to do so. That's it.

It's not a horrible analogy. You're saying because ABC didn't defend him that the FCC somehow was justified in pushing for him to be fired. That's not how the law works.

This is a 1st Amendment violation if ABC was pressured by the FCC to fire Kimmel. Pure and simple. And you know it. And ABC knows it. That's why they haven't fired him. I think they are going to reinstate him, because otherwise they could be on the hook for a $100M 1st amendment lawsuit.

 

[Crazy Source]

Then I'll ask again, where in the constitution is ABC guaranteed the right air television programming for free on public airwaves? Where in the constitution is Jimmy Kimmel guaranteed a right to a job as a late night talk show host?

Read up, buttercup.

First Amendment​

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

[kflo]

Then I'll ask again, where in the constitution is ABC guaranteed the right air television programming for free on public airwaves? Where in the constitution is Jimmy Kimmel guaranteed a right to a job as a late night talk show host?

Where does the federal government get the right to take away someone’s ability to speak on public airways for speech protected by the constitution and not violating any licensing terms. Again you’re fuckin sad for cheering on blatant abuse of power. Homer.

You have zero principles.

 

[Alpha_T83]

Terrible analogy. It's more like a business who has pushed back against the state and FCC in the past didn't this time because they thought this specific product isn't worth it.

But we are not going to agree on this..so enjoy the rest of your day

Your pathetic attempts to justify a 1st Amendment violation aren't going to work.

This issue isn't going away and Trump won't win. I think ABC is going to bring Kimmel back. They risk a 1st amendment lawsuit if they don't. And even if they fire him, they will have to give him a big fat payout in the settlement, and get him to sign confidentiality + release of claims, to avoid a future 1st amendment lawsuit.

You think they'll cancel the show, lose all their staff, and pay Kimmel $10M? All to make Trump happy? I think they'd rather resume the show.

 

[HereticBD]

It's not a horrible analogy.

No, it is. It makes absolutely no sense.

You're saying because ABC didn't defend him that the FCC somehow was justified in pushing for him to be fired. That's not how the law works.

He has not been fired.

This is a 1st Amendment violation if ABC was pressured by the FCC to fire Kimmel. Pure and simple. And you know it. And ABC knows it. That's why they haven't fired him. I think they are going to reinstate him, because otherwise they could be on the hook for a $100M 1st amendment lawsuit.

So now the whole thing you've been bitching about isn't even happening? Okay then.

 

[Starman]

We've been over this. Jimmy Kimmel did not violate FCC standards.

The ONLY power the FCC has to regulate late night TV after 10PM is for obscenity. That's it. And what Kimmel said does not pass the Miller test for obscenity. This has already been discussed in this thread.

So no, the FCC had zero power to regulate Kimmel's speech here.

Yes, he did.

You're wrong, which is why I keep asking you and your other brain-in-a-vat multiple personalities what you think the FCC does, because it's clear you have no clue. Stop depending on reddit or your imagination as your primary source. Political broadcast rules apply across all time zones in perpetuity. Emergency broadcast rules apply across all time zones in perpetuity. Local programming and public interest obligations apply across all time zones in perpetuity.

You don't have a constitutional right to defraud the public at 10:01pm, retard. Nor does the FCC give you that right. And if you think you do, try it.

Finally, the FFC didn't regulate Kimmel's speech. He can still say whatever he wants. What the FCC did do was provide a stern reminder to one of their licensees that Kimmel's behavior violated their policies, which they have every right to do.

Now why don't you or your tranny boyfriend tell me how butthurt you were about the Biden administration violating the first amendment rights of millions of Americans when they bullied social media platforms into censoring and deplatforming those who questioned rigged elections and untested vaccines?

 

[Crazy Source]

"....or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press......."

This isn't an ambiguous law.

 

[Starman]

Read up, buttercup.

First Amendment​

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

What law did congress pass that prohibited Jimmy Kimmel from exercising his free speech?

 

[Starman]

Where does the federal government get the right to take away someone’s ability to speak on public airways for speech protected by the constitution and not violating any licensing terms. Again you’re fuckin sad for cheering on blatant abuse of power. Homer.

You have zero principles.

Where does someone's ability to speak on public airways come from?

 

[Alpha_T83]

No, it is. It makes absolutely no sense.

Makes perfect sense. You're justifying illegal actions being taken against an individual because no one fought "hard enough" to save them.

He has not been fired.

Yes and we are discussing the hypothetical outcomes of what might happen. Many of you are calling for him to be fired, so I am discussing the issues with him being fired and why ABC hasn't done it.

So now the whole thing you've been bitching about isn't even happening? Okay then.

Ah yes, the good old "well I've lost the argument, so I'm going to attack you for speculating on what might happen". That's the whole point of this thread. That's the whole point of MMA discussions on the UFC forum. We discuss what might happen in upcoming fights, what upcoming matchups we might see.

You're really struggling if that's the best you can do.

 

[Alpha_T83]

Yes, he did.

You're wrong, which is why I keep asking you and your other brain-in-a-vat multiple personalities what you think the FCC does, because it's clear you have no clue. Stop depending on reddit or your imagination as your primary source. Political broadcast rules apply across all time zones in perpetuity. Emergency broadcast rules apply across all time zones in perpetuity. Local programming and public interest obligations apply across all time zones in perpetuity.

You don't have a constitutional right to defraud the public at 10:01pm, retard. Nor does the FCC give you that right. And if you think you do, try it.

Finally, the FFC didn't regulate Kimmel's speech. He can still say whatever he wants. What the FCC did do was provide a stern reminder to one of their licensees that Kimmel's behavior violated their policies, which they have every right to do.

Now why don't you or your tranny boyfriend tell me how butthurt you were about the Biden administration violating the first amendment rights of millions of Americans when they bullied social media platforms into censoring and deplatforming those who questioned rigged elections and untested vaccines?

Kimmel didn't defraud the public. What he said was not criminal and it wasn't obscene. Therefore the FCC has zero statutory authority to regulate his speech.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Your pathetic attempts to justify a 1st Amendment violation aren't going to work.

Aren't going to work on whom? I already said we aren't going to agree. Do you think I debate this with ABC or the FCC? Double up on your SSRI's today.

This issue isn't going away and Trump won't win. I think ABC is going to bring Kimmel back. They risk a 1st amendment lawsuit if they don't. And even if they fire him, they will have to give him a big fat payout in the settlement, and get him to sign confidentiality + release of claims, to avoid a future 1st amendment lawsuit.

You think they'll cancel the show, lose all their staff, and pay Kimmel $10M? All to make Trump happy? I think they'd rather resume the show.

I think they pay him to sit out and then don't renew his contract.

 

[HereticBD]

Ah yes, the good old "well I've lost the argument, so I'm going to attack you for speculating on what might happen". That's the whole point of this thread. That's the whole point of MMA discussions on the UFC forum. We discuss what might happen in upcoming fights, what upcoming matchups we might see.

Dude, this entire thread you've been screeching "This is happening! Oh' my God, this is happening!"

Now you're all "Okay, it's not actually happening and it probably won't happen."

That would be YOU ceding ground on your position.