Social Jimmy Kimmel gets Canceled

[Hit-N-Run]

ABC offered little resistance. I wonder why.

Should they have had to offer resistance in the first place?

The Trump regime used the powers of government to silence a private citizen from saying things they did not agree with.

If that is not a blatant violation of the first amendment I don’t know what is.

 

[HereticBD]

None of them had had the government infringing on their free speech.

This time you have the FCC threatening a company and you are fine with it.

You do not understand the first amendment and only want your speech to be free from government persecution.

"No, no, you don't understand. It's (D)ifferent now."

ABC operated as a private company back then, and they're operating the same right now. If Jimmy wasn't a money pit, they wouldn't have canceled(or indefinitely suspended) him. If they were looking for an excuse to get rid of him, they got it. The FCC is not God, and if Jimmy was worth it, they'd leave him on the air, like many other controversial figures that have dealt with FCC complaints who actually make the network money.

Do you seriously think this is first time the FCC has complained to networks over controversial employees? You're either worth the fight or you're not. Jimmy was not.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

So from what I understand is the problem wasn't about the joke with Trump not caring.. it was about him making a claim early on that a right winger did it? Maybe my info is off, but that is what I saw.

I can at least understand that versus the joke itself.. it wasn't about the joke, it was about the info leading to it.. is that right?

That is my understanding as well

FCC chair Carr explains it.

 

[IanEdwards]

But the value of making your case isn't necessarily always in convincing the OP, but rather future readers who might not post at all, so I kinda think that's okay.

And if someone doesn't have an answer or respond - I think that's okay too. No need to take a walk of shame every time someone is wrong imo.

yeah i agree, one way or another its all okay. I'll only do dialogue/rebuttal if i feel good faith is likely, otherwise I go straight to shotgun sarcasm, I have like 2 settings lol

 

[Mr Holmes]

Yes. Fuck him. The majority of people upset by this are only mad because it happened to their disgusting tribe.

 

[Pittie Petey]

I didnt care for it when it was the blue haired alphabet weirdos cancelling people for mean words and I dont care for it now that its white victimhood warriors cancelling people for mean words but such is life in America, I guess


Interesting to see the same people that were angry and outraged last year are the snowflakes cheering it on this year

 

[Xanzito]

"No, no, you don't understand. It's (D)ifferent now."

ABC operated as a private company back then, and they're operating the same right now. If Jimmy wasn't a money pit, they wouldn't have canceled(or indefinitely suspended) him. If they were looking for an excuse to get rid of him, they got it. The FCC is not God, and if Jimmy was worth it, they'd leave him on the air, like many other controversial figures that have dealt with FCC complaints who actually make the network money.

Do you seriously think this is first time the FCC has complained to networks over controversial employees? You're either worth the fight or you're not. Jimmy was not.

As it was already said, South Park, Bill Maher, hell, even Rachel Maddow that said a bunch of ignorant false shit, but brings the best numbers they have.... Bet they brought more headaches than Kimmel ever had. But... they had the numbers.

 

[Gamer2k4]

I started with "Nope" and changed my vote to "It's complicated." In a vacuum, no, those brief lines were mild and surely no worse than anything else he's said before. That alone shouldn't have gotten him kicked off the air. (I actually kind of liked the "Trump stages of grief" line, because he's using humor to point out someone else's callousness, not being callous himself.)

On the other hand, it's a decision of a private company, and they have the right to cancel his show for whatever reason they like if it violated their standards. Free speech is free from government prosecution, not from consequences overall.

On the third hand, if they were looking for an excuse to get rid of him because of low ratings and low profits, surely that in itself is an excuse? If his show is losing money, cancel him for that and let people speculate that there's the ulterior motive. Don't cancel him for an inoffensive joke; cancel him for being economically bad for business.

 

[Bojka]

They probably just don't think he's relevant anymore. Same as Don Lemon.

 

[Confucamus]

That is my understanding as well

FCC chair Carr explains it.

Kimmel has a lot of influence with the left and he could have used his show as a way to call out the radicals who were openly celebrating Kirk's murder. He could have helped heal the political division in America. Instead he chose to intentionally lie about the motives of Kirk's assassin as a way to fan the flames in a country where the temperature is already high.

 

[Mr. Shickadance]

Kimmel said: “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the Maga gang trying to characterize this kid who killed Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.”

Read it again , he didn’t say the shooter was MAGA you’re moronically doing the very thing you complain about. But that is par for the course for you.

 

[AWilder]

My thing about this is that if his show was cancelled because of bad ratings than that's fine.

But if it was because the FCC / Brendan Carr and Donald Trump forced Disney / ABC their hand sort of sense than that's not good.

We shouldn't have the government censoring people just because they have differing views.

Or the other story I'm hearing is ABC waited for a excuse to remove Kimmel, so using the FCC and Trump threats as a way to give a reason to cancel him.

But anyways let's see what the numbers will look like.

If the government cancelled him it's a clear violation of 1st amendment rights. The thing right wingers have been imagining for years.

 

[IanEdwards]

Kirk has a lot of influence with the right and he could have used his podcast as a way to call out the radicals who were openly celebrating the attack on Paul Pelosi. He could have helped heal the political division in America. Instead he chose to joke about it that an 'amazing patriot' should 'bail out' Pelosi's attacker, because he wanted to be an edgelord and because he was the kind of creature who could find amusement in the violent assault on an old man if that old man represented his plitical enemies

change just a few words and see what happens.

 

[Starman]

None of them had had the government infringing on their free speech.

This time you have the FCC threatening a company and you are fine with it.

You do not understand the first amendment and only want your speech to be free from government persecution.

It had nothing to do with the government, you fucking retard. Nexstar and Sinclair both yanked his ass before the FFC said anything, cutting him off from millions of homes already. Disney had a civil war on their hands and there was nothing they could do about it.

And don't even PRETEND like you care about government leaning on private businesses to censor free speech. When Fakebook, Shitter, Instasham, and ALL the other social media companies were being leaned on by the government to censor conservatives challenging stolen elections or killer vaccine shots, all you cucks CHEERED.

So again, FUCK YOU.

 

[USA!USA!]

Kimmel has a lot of influence with the left and he could have used his show as a way to call out the radicals who were openly celebrating Kirk's murder. He could have helped heal the political division in America. Instead he chose to intentionally lie about the motives of Kirk's assassin as a way to fan the flames in a country where the temperature is already high.

Or, in my opinion what he should do, just shut up about politics.

 

[ajccoming]

I started with "Nope" and changed my vote to "It's complicated." In a vacuum, no, those brief lines were mild and surely no worse than anything else he's said before. That alone shouldn't have gotten him kicked off the air. (I actually kind of liked the "Trump stages of grief" line, because he's using humor to point out someone else's callousness, not being callous himself.)

On the other hand, it's a decision of a private company, and they have the right to cancel his show for whatever reason they like if it violated their standards. Free speech is free from government prosecution, not from consequences overall.

On the third hand, if they were looking for an excuse to get rid of him because of low ratings and low profits, surely that in itself is an excuse? If his show is losing money, cancel him for that and let people speculate that there's the ulterior motive. Don't cancel him for an inoffensive joke; cancel him for being economically bad for business.

Now this is a great answer

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Read it again , he didn’t say the shooter was MAGA you’re moronically doing the very thing you complain about. But that is par for the course for you.

What do you gain from continuing to gaslight?

 

[Mr Holmes]

Read it again , he didn’t say the shooter was MAGA you’re moronically doing the very thing you complain about. But that is par for the course for you.

Sure.

 

[IanEdwards]

I'm almost certain that Kirk would not want this to be happening.

I *think* you are likely right. I suspect at least that he was more genuine and consistent in his advocacy of free speech than, say, Eron. Certainly his response to being parodied on South Park was consistent to his views so full credit for that (unlike Trump, obvs)

 

[GtehMVP]

Needed an option for "yes, but not for the "joke". He isn't funny, and his show sucks".