Social Jimmy Kimmel gets Canceled

[Andy Capp]

you could not pay me to give a fuck about jimmy kimmel

Indeed, that's the part these right wing goofballs are deliberately ignoring over and over to protect their nauseating narrative. I give zero shits about Kimmel. I never watch his show. The issue is not that he was fired for saying something his employers considered out of line. If that were all there is to it, fine and dandy. But it's not.

The issue is the FCC (apparently at Trump's behest considering his comment that Kimmel "is next" right after Colbert's show was cancelled and now we know why he was so sure) pressured Disney/ABC, Nextstar, and Sinclair, to get him pulled off the air. Immediately after that, Trump said Meyers and Fallon would soon follow.

The actions of this administration are plain to see and plainly illegal. Yet, MAGA is fighting tooth and nail to defend them with the strawman that it's Kimmel's fate in particular that people are complaining about, and that doing so paints them as bad people because of (their ridiculous misrepresentation of) what Kimmel said.

Well what do you know

What do you know? See above.

 

[markg171]

And Republicans crashed Grindr at the RNC

Hmmm...

If only there was some sort of pattern of sexually repressed conservatives who get busted doing this all the time lol

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Conservatives becoming leftists and going nuts isn't the point you seem to think it is.

 

[sanguinius]

An innocent right winger gets killed by a left winger in a period of left wing terrorism, much of which is goaded on by the media and literal standing members of the democratic party, and left wingers celebrate.

A failed comedian gets fired for spreading lies instead of doing his job, and all the sudden they are weeping and clutching pearls. Children. Absolute children.

 

[Severen]

No, it's the entire point(one that they apparently didn't inform you of on Bluesky). The end result would be the same, regardless of what the FCC guy said on a podcast.

there are more affiliates than just those two. You would have to prove disney completely ignored a direct FCC threat, which is far fetched, especially when internal sources say its the main reason they pulled it.

 

[markg171]

It already happened to the right and is constantly happening to the right. I don't have to imagine things, unlike you.

They're so devolved from reality that they don't even see that Democrats maybe possibly wielding FCC's statutory authority over peoples speech would be a major improvement from the shooting people in the throat for their speech.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Conservatives becoming leftists and going nuts isn't the point you seem to think it is.

So you think all those Catholic priests and clergymen are leftists?

 

[sanguinius]

They're so devolved from reality that they don't even see that Democrats maybe possibly wielding FCC's statutory authority over peoples speech would be a major improvement from the shooting people in the throat for their speech.

I'd say the mask came off around the 2020 BLM terrorist attacks and the covid madness, but this is a whole new level. The people in charge of the democratic party need to address their mentally ill voterbase.

I looked it up and over half of democrats have a mental health disease. We figure out how to run asylums again, and the problem solves itself.

 

[Severen]

you could not pay me to give a fuck about jimmy kimmel

That's the best test for your principles. Do you still stand by them even when you don't give a fuck about the person. You failed brilliantly as expected.

 

[HereticBD]

there are more affiliates than just those two.

No shit, but they control enough territory to force the hand of a network.

You would have to prove disney completely ignored a direct FCC threat, which is far fetched, especially when internal sources say its the main reason they pulled it.

They pulled it because Jimbo wouldn't apologize, which Sinclair and Nexstar demanded, thus leaving their show off the air in those rather large areas they control, making a worthless show somehow even more worthless.

 

[Starman]

Nowhere, but they are given the right to be protected from the government taking them off the airwaves for their speech. Getting it now?

Lets try this.

Do you think the constitution allows a government to revoke the business permit for any bookstore selling a specific book?

That's not an accurate comparison because bookstores are private businesses, and just proves yet again you have no clue what the FCC does.

What does the FCC do? Define it.

 

[kflo]

Yet another logical fallacy. You're making an ought claim, not a prescriptive statement. Stop confusing the two. Of course you can say the FCC ought not to have done what they did. What you cannot say is that the FCC violated ABC or Jimmy Kimmel's First Amendment rights. They didn't. ABC doesn't have the constitutional right to air programming on the public airwaves for free. Jimmy Kimmel doesn't have the constitutional right to share his opinion on public airwaves for free. Those are privileges, not rights.

As I've said ad nauseum, you as an individual have the right to free speech. The government doesn't have the obligation to build you a platform.

As the non-partisan bootlicker you pretend to be, I notice you still fail to condemn the federal government's violation of millions of American's first amendment rights when it coerced social media platforms into censoring anyone who questioned the outcome of rigged elections or untested vaccines.

The government doesn’t have the right to deny you the platform you have for protected speech that doesn’t violate any terms of license. You are the boot licker.

 

[Severen]

No shit, but they control enough territory to force the hand of a network.

They pulled it because Jimbo wouldn't apologize, which Sinclair and Nexstar demanded, thus leaving their show off the air in those rather large areas they control.

Dude none of this matters. The fact is the FCC threatened the ABC which is a violation of the constitution. What sinclair and nexstar did does not change that.

 

[Severen]

That's not an accurate comparison because bookstores are private businesses, and just proves yet again you have no clue what the FCC does.

Irrelevant. The point is a private business still needs council permits to operate, it has no right to them. What if the government revokes them for selling a certain book, is that allowed? And last time i checked affiliates are private companies also anyway.

What does the FCC do? Define it.

Ok. After you do.

 

[Andy Capp]

That's the best test for your principles. Do you still stand by them even when you don't give a fuck about the person. You failed brilliantly as expected.

Please elaborate; I'm curious.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Talking with my leftist friend in the UK. She thinks ABC dropping Jimmy is worse than police arresting people for Facebook posts.

LMAO

 

[HereticBD]

Dude none of this matters.

LOL, yes it does.

The fact is the FCC threatened the ABC which is a violation of the constitution.

Not if the FCC believes ABC was in violation of it's standards, which is always subjective and why networks will sometimes challenge their authority on the matter. ABC is not the first network that has been warned by the FCC for supposed violations. They didn't argue or attempt to fight for Kimmel, because he's worthless.

What sinclair and nexstar did does not change that.

It does, when you're trying to argue that the sole reason they pulled the show was due to the FCC.

I mean shit, you didn't even know about Sinclair and Nexstar's role in this before I told you about it five minutes ago.

 

[kflo]

An innocent right winger gets killed by a left winger in a period of left wing terrorism, much of which is goaded on by the media and literal standing members of the democratic party, and left wingers celebrate.

A failed comedian gets fired for spreading lies instead of doing his job, and all the sudden they are weeping and clutching pearls. Children. Absolute children.

A shitty comedians company is threatened by the federal government for expressing his opinion.

 

[Severen]

Please elaborate; I'm curious.

I wasn't responding to you.

 

[Andy Capp]

Yea, I don’t really like how this all goes down, especially in the WR. It’s always the same thing:
-Event breaks
-Each side guesses the other side did it or at least the type of person who did it is opposite of them
-Criminal is revealed
-One side tags it onto the whole opposing side. The other brings up past events where it worked out for them.


I think it would be better with this angle
-Assume the attacker is deranged and does not represent the average voter from the opposite side. The desire to do that should be restrained.
-Unify in agreement political violence isn’t okay and condemn it. If the person doesn’t truly represent your side, you should be fine condemning them. Don’t defend/ excuse it for concern it is somehow tied to you.
-Move on

To much of the political landscape is going to one’s selective corner, making a characture of the opposing side and then arguing against that charactures perceived viewpoints. Events like this make it far to easy to fall into. This isn’t to say criticism for an opposing viewpoint is bad. I’m just saying be charitable in listening the opposing side and not assuming evil intentions.

I agree with all of this. But you only have to look at the last couple of pages to see that many people will never give it a moment's consideration, sadly. As I have said before, the mechanism of radicalization is what needs to be tackled, not the supposed political side of the aisle of the the wrong-doer, but it seems unlikely that change will happen anytime soon.

 

[Severen]

It does, when you're trying to argue that the sole reason they pulled the show was due to the FCC.

I mean shit, you didn't even know about Sinclair and Nexstar's role in this before I told you about it five minutes ago.

I don't need to prove it was the SOLE reason. Even partly is enough. It just needs to be a motivating factor. nice try though.

Not if the FCC believes ABC was in violation of it's standards, which is always subjective and why networks will sometimes challenge their authority on the matter.

This is the crux of the matter. Whether the threat was for free speech of legitimate violation of its standards. I'm pretty sure mocking the president in a joke did not violate any legit standards.