Economy Jim Beam Kentucky based distillery closing down for a year.

[Corona]

Yeah, Pappy is from the Weller family (I think Buffalo Trace is the distiller). But damn, that is nice. I’ve had Pappy 20 and 23yr, one in Vegas and one in NY, and it was from $100 to more than $150 a shot.
My buddy has a full bottle of 23yr in his collection because he was picked in a lottery, not sure what he paid, but it was definitely a lot more than $150.

Yeah PVW is made by sazerac. They probably have the most impressive whiskey/bourbon portfolio in North America. Sazerac, pappy, buffalo trace, weller, Blantons and Eagle Rare. They have another hundred plus brands too. I almost took a job with them a couple years ago but elected to stay at my current company since I have a stake.

 

[BFoe]

The distillery creates different bourbons, not just the cheap white label stuff. For example, Knob Creek, Bookers, Little Book, Bakers, Old Tub, Old Grand Dad.

I tend not to drink any of it, far more into scotch. But I know they put out products that are well reviewed by bourbon geeks

It’s my favorite distillery. Not for the white label, but the higher level offerings like you mentioned.

And yes, this is a direct result of Trump’s tariffs and trade war he started. Interesting to see the way the righties are spinning this. Bourbon is a major American export, which is getting crushed by Trump’s trade war.

 

[Croaker]

lmao @ the alcoholics being mad in ITT

 

[sickc0d3r]

Yeah PVW is made by sazerac. They probably have the most impressive whiskey/bourbon portfolio in North America. Sazerac, pappy, buffalo trace, weller, Blantons and Eagle Rare. They have another hundred plus brands too. I almost took a job with them a couple years ago but elected to stay at my current company since I have a stake.

I used to love buying Weller off the bottom shelf for like 20 bucks as my house bourbon. Nobody realized what a great, cheap option it was. Around 6 or 8 years ago those bastards got full of themselves, it’s a lot pricier now.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

How, and be specific? Is your suggestion that the US should not tariff countries that tariff us, and if we do, it's "starting a trade war" because they are then forced to add more tariffs, right after you just said the US should not respond to tariffs on us?

Pretty cucky tbh.

Why don't you go and read the 800 other threads that have explained it to you guys.

 

[Hit-N-Run]

Let’s see the Trump Monkey fling their mental feces around defending their lord and savior.

It’s his fault a proud American made product is shutting down for a year, potentially more.

Thanks Trump!

 

[Satsui Ryu]

Hold my beer...



Mayor Catherine Moy: “We continue to lose major employers because of the challenging business climate here.”

Anhueser Busch is closing a few plants so overall there is a lot more going on here. The quote below I think nails it. Everyone wants to blame politics to cover for the fact the market is just changing. Probably because they know most people will buy it, especially those obsessed with politics. People now just don't drink like they used to, especially with legal weed out there.

For multiple reasons goatnald is partially to blame here. But as someone who’s worked in the alcohol industry for almost ten years now the industries been struggling quite a bit since Covid. Tons of companies have been shut down or bought out in recent years.

THC/Hemp infused drinks are currently the future but the government is pushing back on it until their pockets get lined enough.


All that said beam is owned by Suntory which is a global powerhouse that owns a ton of big brands. They’ll be fine.

Edit: for the Anhueser Busch thing, the craft beer market is absolutely saturated. People just don't drink pisswater beer anymore.

 

[Siver!]

Anhueser Busch is closing a few plants so overall there is a lot more going on here. The quote below I think nails it. Everyone wants to blame politics to cover for the fact the market is just changing. Probably because they know most people will buy it, especially those obsessed with politics. People now just don't drink like they used to, especially with legal weed out there.

Again, though, how can you find cause to pause distillation for a year?

This isn't an "Oh, we're losing business gradually, let's downsize"-type decision based on mass market movements. It's an emergency measure based on potentially having far too much product and suddenness is at play here.

There are plenty of places for the Trump administration to hide: maturation time (4 years minimum for the basic white label), general depreciation of drinkers, etc, but this is in direct response to a massive loss in exports and let me point out something, this isn't just about tariffs, this is also about rhetoric and the boycott coming from North of the border is because Trump's a fucking moron who says stupid incendiary shit and it is entirely his fault that Canada are boycotting US liqueur. "I am going to annex Canada", whatever dickhead, "I am going to annex Greenland", that's going to do great things for international markets my fat Orange friend.

So I'll repeat something: this is ENTIRELY Trump's fault - and it's the fault of everyone who voted for him because Kamala cackles.

Suck a fat one, guys.

 

[Satsui Ryu]

Again, though, how can you find cause to pause distillation for a year?

This isn't an "Oh, we're losing business gradually, let's downsize"-type decision based on mass market movements. It's an emergency measure based on potentially having far too much product and suddenness is at play here.

There are plenty of places for the Trump administration to hide: maturation time (4 years minimum for the basic white label), general depreciation of drinkers, etc, but this is in direct response to a massive loss in exports and let me point out something, this isn't just about tariffs, this is also about rhetoric and the boycott coming from North of the border is because Trump's a fucking moron who says stupid incendiary shit and it is entirely his fault that Canada are boycotting US liqueur. "I am going to annex Canada", whatever dickhead, "I am going to annex Greenland", that's going to do great things for international markets my fat Orange friend.

So I'll repeat something: this is ENTIRELY Trump's fault - and it's the fault of everyone who voted for him because Kamala cackles.

Suck a fat one, guys.

From the articles I am seeing they are mentioning renovations to the plant. Those are not things you just up and do. They require long term planning, especially when the parent company has a huge portfolio of products.

This reminds me of when the tariffs were announced and all of a sudden all these companies were saying they were going to bring manufacturing to the US. You don't make long term plans off of potentially short term events.

 

[Brokenpromise]

he ran them into a wall. just like all of his business, including not just one but three casinos. how exactly does a successful businessman go about doing that, taking something that literally prints money and finding a way to bankrupt it? fucking genius. this guy can identify a giraffe.

His one trump tower out here the construction took 2 years to build and the then the hotel lasted 18 months.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

This reminds me of when the tariffs were announced and all of a sudden all these companies were saying they were going to bring manufacturing to the US. You don't make long term plans off of potentially short term events.

which companies said that? can we at least name one, or is it in the same category of wars that trump has ended, which is just too many to be able to name?

 

[Siver!]

From the articles I am seeing they are mentioning renovations to the plant. Those are not things you just up and do. They require long term planning, especially when the parent company has a huge portfolio of products.

This reminds me of when the tariffs were announced and all of a sudden all these companies were saying they were going to bring manufacturing to the US. You don't make long term plans off of potentially short term events.

You're being misled.

We've gone from 2022 - $400 million investment into expansion in the Booker-Noe site - to 2025/6 - no investment announced (mentioned admittedly, briefly, sorta, but not announced), just a year-long pause in distillation at the main site.

The Trump admin can pretend the above expansion was due to "demands to go green", but they'd be lying. Expansions were made at great expense to meet an ever-increasing demand for Jim Beam produce, year-on-year, until 2025.

That's when Americans voted in Donald Trump and the train hit a streaking halt that won't easily be reversed.

 

[Satsui Ryu]

which companies said that? can we at least name one, or is it in the same category of wars that trump has ended, which is just too many to be able to name?

Honda were running PR campaigns right after the tarrifs were announced playing it off as the reason. Articles about it got ate up here. What a lot of people failed to realize is Honda already had that plant in Indiana. Or failed to care to realize Hondas are already made here.

Most companies usually don't make major decisions based off of a singular factor, especially ones that may be temporary. It is usually a lot of things and based on long term goals.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Honda were running PR campaigns right after the tarrifs were announced playing it off as the reason. Articles about it got ate up here. What a lot of people failed to realize is Honda already had that plant in Indiana. Or failed to care to realize Hondas are already made here.

Most companies usually don't make major decisions based off of a singular factor, especially ones that may be temporary. It is usually a lot of things and based on long term goals.

oh, so nobody.

i'm sure that they all will start shutting down shop and relocating any day now to appease the short term interests of some guy who brags about being able to identify a giraffe. just probably not today.

 

[nostradumbass]

Why don't you go and read the 800 other threads that have explained it to you guys.

Lol, why don't you and then actually answer my question? I just asked you to explain your incoherent position, and your response is "you should read the TDS megathread where every lefty thought tariffs would cause like 7% inflation while we're at 2.7, and can't explain why other countries putting tariffs on us isn't "starting a trade war", but us outting tariffs on them is.

Are tariffs "a tax on your own citizens" or aren't they? They can't be a tax on your citizens when Trump does them, but somehow also a tax on our citizens when other countries do it to us, so which is it?

 

[Satsui Ryu]

oh, so nobody.

i'm sure that they all will start shutting down shop and relocating any day now to appease the short term interests of some guy who brags about being able to identify a giraffe. just probably not today.

Honda is nobody?

And I realized I completely fucked up that post by being distracted. But basically right wing media took Honda announcing they were going to build the next Gen Civic in Indiana and played it off as new factory capacity. It was all BS in that it was happening anyway and there was no new factory capacity, but the outlets who like to fellate Trump ran with it.

 

[DW=HERO]

Jim Beam? No thanks

Whiskey like a proper gentleman

 

[DW=HERO]

For multiple reasons goatnald is partially to blame here. But as someone who’s worked in the alcohol industry for almost ten years now the industries been struggling quite a bit since Covid. Tons of companies have been shut down or bought out in recent years.

THC/Hemp infused drinks are currently the future but the government is pushing back on it until their pockets get lined enough.


All that said beam is owned by Suntory which is a global powerhouse that owns a ton of big brands. They’ll be fine.

The minimus are killing restaurants. Sometimes I need $600.00 worth of product.

I can’t pay $2000.00 every time

 

[DW=HERO]

There are always trends but at the moment people are drinking the least they have in about 100 years. People are more health conscious now and Gen Z doesn’t drink like millennials or Gen X. Beam was actually bought out by suntory about a decade ago. Suntory also owns Basil Hayden, makers mark, knob creek, Canadian club, Laphroaig and a bunch of other brands. They know how to keep up with trends. Their plan to take a year off production to renovate the distillery sounds pretty solid tbh.

Depending on people eating out and drinking is an antiquated model. The business has changed. If people think it’s bad now just wait 5 years and most restaurants will be closed.

 

[Strychnine]

Do we have cheaper eggs yet?