JDS fell off hard, feels bad man

He was never the same after that 2nd Cain fight. He took some big damage and that shortens your career as a fighter.

I'd like to see him retire or better still UFC to release him.
 
To be fair....in the past few years they have lost to the same guys. Overeem got near knocked out Harris as well.

Overeem looked "ok" vs mediocre guys who Junior might beat himself.
I actually don’t think jds can beat oleinik,walt and definitely not sakai after how he did with alistair
 
He was never the same after that 2nd Cain fight. He took some big damage and that shortens your career as a fighter.

I'd like to see him retire or better still UFC to release him.

I would say directly post Cain it was more opponents knew his weaknesses and he wasnt quite as confident in himself but from the Reem lose onwards I think physical decline has clearly set in.

I actually don’t think jds can beat oleinik,walt and definitely not sakai after how he did with alistair

I wouldnt say he's a lock against anyone decent these days with that dodgy chin and a style that exposes it but those are I think winnable fights potentially.
 
Jnr really though I think always gave the impression of a guy who got by on natural talent for fighting a certain way, even just in terms of striking he was always quite narrow depenant on throwing those big looping shots from mid range.

Alistair always showed a more rounded game and its more the case he's shifted focus to different areas of it over the years. He's also never had beatdowns like the Cain matches, I suspect those fights probably inflicted more damage than half a dozen Reem KO loses.

Thats the danger of having great chin/heart I spose, it means you potentially expose yourself to massive damage if things go wrong, I suspect JDS now might well be better off physically if he'd been pulled out of the Cain matches after the 2rd/3rd round each time.
I think he probably broke his jaw after one of the many beatings he took,it’s crazy how he reacts after getting hit after having a steel chin
The reason everyone praises cain because how he was the only that dealt with junior in his prime
Even though I don’t ignore that he was on stuff before usada
 
Punch resistance is gone. He needs to retire.
 
he should have quit after losing to cain. that was a terribly sad fight to watch. he has never been the same again.
 
He's done. Nothing to be ashamed of, but he can't take shots like he used to. Too many wars.

Some guys can adapt to hide their chin with movement or grappling but I dont think JDS can really.
 
He is done but his last 3 losses before this fight are against the Top Guys
 
Some guys can adapt to hide their chin with movement or grappling but I dont think JDS can really.

Not a chance. He was never a defensive fighter and he hasn't added much to his game besides some spinning kicks.

I love the dude, but his best days are well behind him.
 
He was never good enough, he was an overrated bum who fought one dimensional fighters, MMA has evolved now and there is no place for him in the octagon anymore.. Sounds familiar?
 
He's done being an elite HW, he'll never fight for the belt again, but he is still a threat to anyone. Would do well in Bellator.
 
I think he paid so much for not changing his style or adding to his game over the years unlike what alistair did,as soon as alistair figured his chin was weak,he worked so hard to change his style also he has grappling too unlike Junior

I'm not sure Reem ever did figure it out, he's been KOd 17 times between K1 and MMA.
 
Some guys can adapt to hide their chin with movement or grappling but I dont think JDS can really.

Yeah besides the weakness against the cage his career has always been quite dependent on walking though opponents offence to land his own.
 
I hurts to say but he is now Bob Sapp. This is now the 4th fight or so where I saw him take a shot and he quits. He's never been out cold. He takes a shot now, goes into a turtle shell untill the ref stops it.

I can't blame him. It's easy money. He has taken all the brutal beatings in his career already, he is allowed to do this imo.
 
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