Jack Slack article on Anderson Silva leg break

[wartor]

this was the first kick with the left leg

Good, you can actually see Weidman trying to push his leg down to a harder check, common in high level kick defense. Wonder who trained him, he caught on very fast.

 

[MaTaLa]

Something I'm surprised hasn't been discussed much is that the break did not occur at the point of impact. I believe Weidman got 3 checks in that round and the break happened on the 2nd check of that particular leg. I don't have proof but I believe Silva fractured his leg the first time he got checked.

That would explain why the break happened lower down the leg than at the point of impact.

I've attempted to bring the discrepancy between the point of impact and the break to light on several occasions but hasn't seemed to gotten anyone elsee's attention.

But I don't believe Silva damaged it on an earlier kick on Weidman. He threw only one other kick w/ that leg, an inside leg kick that hit Weidman mid-thigh and didn't look like it caused any damage.

The only other explanation would be Silva's leg was damaged, stress fracture perhaps, prior to the fight.

 

[kflo]

Almost, Weidman actually baited Silva to throw the kicks just so he could check them. He notice whenever he threw a high kick Silva countered with a low kick. The result was to hurt him checking those kicks, the amount of punishment Silva got was the surprise.

that's hilarious.

 

[Jedi Judah]

Throwing an inside leg kick from the rear leg, which is common in orthodox vs southpaw fights is always risky because of how easy it is to check. Its always easier to check inside low kicks as opposed to outside leg kicks jus because of the natural angle of the lead legs stance

 

[dermert]

You have been here since 2008, I am not sure if this is a troll post and sarcasm.
This is literally the equivalent of a guy slipping a punch and then coming to sherdog and talking about the "evolution of the sport" and how everyone is going to train to not get punched in the face now.



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I think the bigger point that the poster you responded to was trying to make was that checking leg kicks may become more common now, not that it would become some legendary technique. In muay thai and kickboxing in general, you block a leg kick no matter what by checking it, where as many MMA fighters don't. Perhaps now that such a high profile fight has ended because the kick was checked, more fighters will do it. Yes, this is basics of kickboxing, but striking in MMA in general isn't that great. How many MMA fighters don't use basic techniques like Jabs, leg kicks, head movement, etc? Perhaps this fight will hep shore up that hole in many fighters games.

 

[CPH]

I didn't watch the whole video but the most part. I didn't see one full force leg kick thrown without setup. And I don't remember Weidman doing that either.

I don't think that you appreciate how hard a guy like Kongsak hits. He is lightning fast and has great balance/composure when he throws, so the lows may not look like much to you but they are damn heavy.

 

[MCS]

There's a problem with calling it a rare thing instead of a fluke and then bringing up the only low kick check stoppage Hoost has in 120 pro fights.

 

[Terror Zone]

fuckin jack slack. he can say anything and then you have guys quoting it as if he's an expert muay thai fighter.

I actually agree with him on this subject but you're right that it

 

[THECYNDlCATE]

There's a problem with calling it a rare thing instead of a fluke and then bringing up the only low kick check stoppage Hoost has in 120 pro fights.

Thank you.

 

[maniacmatt1782]

one checked kick is generally not going to have a significant impact on a seasoned muay thai fighter. again, silva's likely had kicks checked thousands of times.

Except it was the 3rd checked kick. And silvas corner is quoted as saying Silva had already hurt his leg a bit on a prior check.

 

[CPH]

I can't believe people are actually going to claim that Chris baited him with a kick, to get a kick back,.. just so he could check it.

Here is the thing,...If Chris was doing that, and knew what he would get back from his kick,.. then why does he start out blocking high with his hands? Why is his reaction and look on his face, one of rushed worry?

As soon as Anderson starts to kick, Chris blocks high with his hands. That lets me know, he thought a high attack was incoming, then he dropped one low and changed his defense to a leg check at the last second and things just went right for him.

Chris is an amazing fighter.
This was a legit win.

That being said, people need to stop making things up about the situation. It is a simple situation, with a freakish outcome. The guy really drilled his leg checks and did his best with them, but this wasn't set up and he didn't break his shin on purpose.

It's crazy that some people find this interpretation unacceptable and have therefore literally spent entire days of their life trying to convince everyone that this was a calculated shin destruction by Chris.

 

[LondoMollari]

That fact that he shows BOTH gifs of Chris checking the kicks, proves that the end result of the fight was, in fact a "fluke".

The point where the legs meet is random and you can't really plan for it.
You are hardly even thinking about it. You are just trying to check properly and counter.

Chris got lucky and the legs met in his favor.

Did he intend to break Silva's leg? NO.

His intention was to block the kick, take as little damage as possible and counter. You can even see his "oh shit" face when the kick is launched.

Is the win legitimate?
ABSOLUTELY.

This should put fighters on notice about low kicks and proper checking technique.

Did he intend to break Silva's leg? Most certainly yes.

Watch the post fight presser, he trained to injure Silva's leg with checks.

 

[Ch0sen0ne]

It's crazy that some people find this interpretation unacceptable and have therefore literally spent entire days of their life trying to convince everyone that this was a calculated shin destruction by Chris.

No one's arguing that it was a calculated shin destruction genius boy.

People are saying the low check (checking with the knee rather than the shin) is meant to hurt the kicker and make him think twice about leg kicking. The optimum result is that the kicker breaks his shin against your knee.

Think about a jab. The point of a stiff jab is to momentarily stun your opponent to set up your power punch. If you knock out your opponent with a stiff jab, you've achieved the optimum result, even though it's rare. The KO however wouldn't be called an accident or a fluke.

 

[spunkbun**]

Good, you can actually see Weidman trying to push his leg down to a harder check, common in high level kick defense. Wonder who trained him, he caught on very fast.

 

[AxekickfromDiaz]

Awesome article, just very hard to read with all the shin-snapping gifs in it though.

 

[supernova]

Anderson huggers still in full denial. First fight, no kicks checked. Second fight, all kicks checked.

Anderson fought like an amateur, or at least like he thought Chris was an amateur. Chris isn't; he's a monster who has soundly destroyed Anderson twice.

 

[DASBOOT]

I will repost for everyone to see again.

I can't believe people are actually going to claim that Chris baited him with a kick, to get a kick back,.. just so he could check it.

Here is the thing,...If Chris was doing that, and knew what he would get back from his kick,.. then why does he start out blocking high with his hands? Why is his reaction and look on his face, one of rushed worry?

As soon as Anderson starts to kick, Chris blocks high with his hands. That lets me know, he thought a high attack was incoming, then he dropped one low and changed his defense to a leg check at the last second and things just went right for him.

Chris is an amazing fighter.
This was a legit win.

That being said, people need to stop making things up about the situation. It is a simple situation, with a freakish outcome. The guy really drilled his leg checks and did his best with them, but this wasn't set up and he didn't break his shin on purpose.

Do you know literally nothing about fighting strategy? Come on man. How long have you been posting on Sherdog?

 

[MrHoost**]

Got sick of arguing with people about checking kicks with the knee. Was waiting for this.

Its checked with the top of the shin, not the knee or you be looking at dislocating your own kneecap.

Its still a freak injury to Anderson and a fluke win for Weidman. Its hilarious weedman fanboys trying to talk it up as a legit win.

 

[supernova]

Its checked with the top of the shin, not the knee or you be looking at dislocating your own kneecap.

Its still a freak injury to Anderson and a fluke win for Weidman. Its hilarious weedman fanboys trying to talk it up as a legit win.

Lol wow. Anderson's huggers are cut from the same delusional cloth as Anderson himself.

:redface:

 

[MrHoost**]

Lol wow. Weedman's huggers are cut from the same delusional cloth as Weedman himself.

:redface:

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