Jack Shore vs Zalal this weekend.

[JustOnce]

There's no hype left for Jack Shore any more, but he once looked like one of best UK prospects ever alongside Aspinall and Till.

Shore was one of the guys that you looked out for from Covid era. Like if you think about it, the prospects that came out and established themselves is quite a lot from that era: Khamzat, Shavkat, Tom Aspinall, Imavov, Topuria, Erin Blanchfield a year later, Gamrot, DDP, Amir Albazi, and the list is actually very long.

Jack Shore undoubtedly looked as good and promising as ANY of those fighters. I know it may sound ridiculous now since a lot of those fighters became pretty popular and highly ranked, but hindsight is always 20/20, Shore still looked that good a little while ago.

The problem for Shore to me, before he lost to Simon and then his last fight, he seemed like, he was very skilled and good, but he seemed like he lacked a little power in striking AND grappling, and certainly size now up a weight class. But he looked good enough to even just make that not an obstacle in his rise either.

Now he's fighting Zalal who looked like a pretty good fighter during his first run. I was surprised when he got into a little rut and got cut, but on his return, he's been looking pretty good and now a sizeable favourite against Shore.

I'm more than confident Shore can beat anybody at BW. I still rate his skillset as a fighter very highly. I know Talbot at BW is looking fabulous right now and on the bandwaggon, but Shore looked as good as he is looking right now back then.

The problem is, I think Shore lacks size at FW and Zalal is also a good fighter in his own right. If Shore loses, he would be 1-3 in his last 4...

Who you got and why?

 

[OleBuffalo]

You’re totally right about hindsight, so I don’t wanna do the revisionist history thing, but one thing about the Covid era was that they were balls-deep signing all kinds of random people who weren’t really UFC level even moreso than currently cus they needed bodies. At that time, Jack Shore got matched up with a handful of guys who were kinda regional-level dudes, so there was cause for hesitation as far as hyping him up just cus level of competition back then. He does seem solid though, so I guess we’ll see what he can do now that he’s had some losses to learn from

 

[usernamee]

What I remember mostly about Shore is that the commentary always hyped him up like he was the next GSP or something..

 

[PurpleDrank]

Shores great technically but he seems a little small for 45 and not very athletic. It's gonna be tough for him here and in the future.

 

[JustOnce]

You’re totally right about hindsight, so I don’t wanna do the revisionist history thing, but one thing about the Covid era was that they were balls-deep signing all kinds of random people who weren’t really UFC level even moreso than currently cus they needed bodies. At that time, Jack Shore got matched up with a handful of guys who were kinda regional-level dudes, so there was cause for hesitation as far as hyping him up just cus level of competition back then. He does seem solid though, so I guess we’ll see what he can do now that he’s had some losses to learn from

Shore is very good though. Shore is like better skilled Aspinall without power. And as well rounded as Aspinall, where would Aspinall be without his power?

Shore is still very skilled. But he will have to win tomorow to show it maybe.

 

[JustOnce]

What I remember mostly about Shore is that the commentary always hyped him up like he was the next GSP or something..

He looked like it. And having Bisping in there didn't help. And fighting at FW is certainly not helping him.

 

[JustOnce]

Shores great technically but he seems a little small for 45 and not very athletic. It's gonna be tough for him here and in the future.

Yeah that was his weakness. It looked like he was going to able to overcome that, but he better at 135. I can see him beating ANYBODY at 135 if he's on his A game. I just think he might be outsized at FW....I mean he dropped the first round against Makwan too.

 

[usernamee]

He looked like it.

Meh, I don't know if the dude even has wins over anybody still in the UFC

Looking good against scrubs is one thing

 

[JustOnce]

Meh, I don't know if the dude even has wins over anybody still in the UFC

Looking good against scrubs is one thing

He's better than O'malley at BW.

It's not who you fight necessarily, it's who you are and what you can do.

 

[usernamee]

He's better than O'malley at BW.

It's not who you fight necessarily, it's who you are and what you can do.

I agree with the 2nd sentence. Still found him way overhyped. Then as soon as he fought anyone half decent he had troubles immediately.

 

[JustOnce]

I agree with the 2nd sentence. Still found him way overhyped. Then as soon as he fought anyone half decent he had troubles immediately.

He only lost once at BW. Simon just caught him.

I just think he might be too small at FW.

 

[Thesnake101]

I agree with the 2nd sentence. Still found him way overhyped. Then as soon as he fought anyone half decent he had troubles immediately.

He beat Valiev right after Timur beat Barcelos though, so it's not like he only beat cans. The Simon fight was a very flat showing but Ricky was peaking at the time and seeme like a tough matchup for an all-rounder like Shore who has dodgy wrestling.

The Zalal fight is interesting for me because he was an overhyped prospect himself during his first run (pretty sure he was the favorite in most if not all of his losses) after beating the likes of Jordan Griffin, Lingo and Peter Barrett, prelim level fighters who didn't find much success in the UFC.

Right now he seems to have completely turned things around, but it's a very small sample size comprised of a pretty good win in Quarantillo, and a can crush vs Errens.

 

[fortheo]

I like shore and think he's very talented, but I agree that he's a bit soft at 145lbs and he just doesn't seem to have violent intentions or power. Still, this fight with zalal is one of the more interesting fights on the card for me.

 

[OldBoy91]

I've come to the conclusion that a lot of UK fighters don't know how to cut weight properly.

Shore was not a big bantamweight, but said the cut was too hard and moved up to be an undersized, outstrengthed, featherweight who's a bit soft and fluffy come fight night.

Nathaniel Wood was a small bantamweight that did the same and is now a tiny featherweight.

Lone'er Kavanagh hasn't moved up but has missed weight at 125 on the regional scene but is easily the smallest flyweight on the roster.

UK fighters need to learn how to cut weight properly because some of these guys would make waves at the lower weighclasses but are likely to get lost in the shuffle constantly fighting bigger, stronger guys.

 

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

There's no hype left for Jack Shore any more, but he once looked like one of best UK prospects ever alongside Aspinall and Till.

Shore was one of the guys that you looked out for from Covid era. Like if you think about it, the prospects that came out and established themselves is quite a lot from that era: Khamzat, Shavkat, Tom Aspinall, Imavov, Topuria, Erin Blanchfield a year later, Gamrot, DDP, Amir Albazi, and the list is actually very long.

Jack Shore undoubtedly looked as good and promising as ANY of those fighters. I know it may sound ridiculous now since a lot of those fighters became pretty popular and highly ranked, but hindsight is always 20/20, Shore still looked that good a little while ago.

The problem for Shore to me, before he lost to Simon and then his last fight, he seemed like, he was very skilled and good, but he seemed like he lacked a little power in striking AND grappling, and certainly size now up a weight class. But he looked good enough to even just make that not an obstacle in his rise either.

Now he's fighting Zalal who looked like a pretty good fighter during his first run. I was surprised when he got into a little rut and got cut, but on his return, he's been looking pretty good and now a sizeable favourite against Shore.

I'm more than confident Shore can beat anybody at BW. I still rate his skillset as a fighter very highly. I know Talbot at BW is looking fabulous right now and on the bandwaggon, but Shore looked as good as he is looking right now back then.

The problem is, I think Shore lacks size at FW and Zalal is also a good fighter in his own right. If Shore loses, he would be 1-3 in his last 4...

Who you got and why?

Should be an easy fight for Zalal, Jack is under sized and out skilled.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Wish he was good, but he's not great anywhere. Jack of all trades type. I think if he can't beat Zalal he gers cut

 

[StonedLemur]

I've come to the conclusion that a lot of UK fighters don't know how to cut weight properly.

Shore was not a big bantamweight, but said the cut was too hard and moved up to be an undersized, outstrengthed, featherweight who's a bit soft and fluffy come fight night.

Nathaniel Wood was a small bantamweight that did the same and is now a tiny featherweight.

Lone'er Kavanagh hasn't moved up but has missed weight at 125 on the regional scene but is easily the smallest flyweight on the roster.

UK fighters need to learn how to cut weight properly because some of these guys would make waves at the lower weighclasses but are likely to get lost in the shuffle constantly fighting bigger, stronger guys.

Not having a real wrestling presence in that country is part of the reason they have a hard time cutting weight tbf.

I was cutting in highschool so had I went and fought I would have had the knowledge.
No excuse for not being able to do it correctly nowadays, but they never experienced it, it seems.

 

[StonedLemur]

Wish he was good, but he's not great anywhere. Jack of all trades type. I think if he can't beat Zalal he gers cut

"Jack" of all trades...I see what you did sir lol.

 

[Luthien]

I have zero idea who Zalal even is and I mildly know the name of Jack Shore :X

 

[The_Renaissance]

I have zero idea who Zalal even is and I mildly know the name of Jack Shore :X

A very ordinary fighter who was cut and since returning has looked surprisingly better. He's also a jack of all trades type.