Jack Shore vs Zalal this weekend.

AL-Tappo McSnappo said:
Should be an easy fight for Zalal, Jack is under sized and out skilled.
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Shore is better than Zalal pound for pound imo.

But this is at FW so. But Shore is no easy fight for anybody and I still think he can beat anybody at BW.

But Shore is better skilled than Zalal. This fight could go either way. Zalal is pretty good too so.
 
Thesnake101 said:
He beat Valiev right after Timur beat Barcelos though, so it's not like he only beat cans. The Simon fight was a very flat showing but Ricky was peaking at the time and seeme like a tough matchup for an all-rounder like Shore who has dodgy wrestling.

The Zalal fight is interesting for me because he was an overhyped prospect himself during his first run (pretty sure he was the favorite in most if not all of his losses) after beating the likes of Jordan Griffin, Lingo and Peter Barrett, prelim level fighters who didn't find much success in the UFC.

Right now he seems to have completely turned things around, but it's a very small sample size comprised of a pretty good win in Quarantillo, and a can crush vs Errens.
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Then Valiev was as good as a lot of top 10s. He also got robbed at TUF.

Zalal never was much of a prospect though. Shore was like three tiers above the guy in terms of how highly they were regarded as a prospect. I just thought he was pretty decent myself.

I really do think Shore is better than Zalal. If this fight happened without his Shore's loss, I'm fairly sure the odds would be reversed.

And if they were the same size, Shore all the way and I don't think it would be close.

But thing is, I just think Shore should cut his ass down to BW. And Zalal has what Shore lacks. Size and athleticism and also pretty good skills.
 
fortheo said:
I like shore and think he's very talented, but I agree that he's a bit soft at 145lbs and he just doesn't seem to have violent intentions or power. Still, this fight with zalal is one of the more interesting fights on the card for me.
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yeah think this is the best fight on the card.

he's as good of a prospect that came out of Europe ever, but i just think he needs to go back down to BW. And he does seem to lack a bit of size and strength and power, even possibly at BW.
 
OldBoy91 said:
I've come to the conclusion that a lot of UK fighters don't know how to cut weight properly.

Shore was not a big bantamweight, but said the cut was too hard and moved up to be an undersized, outstrengthed, featherweight who's a bit soft and fluffy come fight night.

Nathaniel Wood was a small bantamweight that did the same and is now a tiny featherweight.

Lone'er Kavanagh hasn't moved up but has missed weight at 125 on the regional scene but is easily the smallest flyweight on the roster.

UK fighters need to learn how to cut weight properly because some of these guys would make waves at the lower weighclasses but are likely to get lost in the shuffle constantly fighting bigger, stronger guys.
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I don't know, guys like Leon seems to do fine, so not everyone. Not sure if it's a uk thing, but I really think Shore needs to move down to BW if he wants to stick around. I mean he dropped first round to Makwan who was well past his prime and not really that good before he inevitably gassed and found a way to lose.

I really think Shore is talented enough to overcome lacking in certain physical attributes at BW against anybody if he's on his A game. Not sure at FW.
 
The_Renaissance said:
Wish he was good, but he's not great anywhere. Jack of all trades type. I think if he can't beat Zalal he gers cut
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I think this fight could go either way. It really sucks if he would. I do like Zalal too, but like Shore more.

I think his BJJ is better than good though. His boxing is crisp, MMA wrestling on point, great TDD and so on.

I think he has excellent skillset, I really think he can beat most if not all at BW.

Would suck if he loses and gets cut.
 
StonedLemur said:
Not having a real wrestling presence in that country is part of the reason they have a hard time cutting weight tbf.

I was cutting in highschool so had I went and fought I would have had the knowledge.
No excuse for not being able to do it correctly nowadays, but they never experienced it, it seems.
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I don't think Shore missed weight before, but I think that's what they thought about his weight classes that he have to move up.

Not sure if it's a good decision for him, but a win today can change that narrative quick.
 
The_Renaissance said:
A very ordinary fighter who was cut and since returning has looked surprisingly better. He's also a jack of all trades type.
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Zalal's better than ordinary. He's good. I think both guys are just well rounded, better than so called jack of all trades unless we are using the term loosely like how people refer to GSP as jack of all trades.
 
Luthien said:
Cool - I'll be checking him out extra much this card :D
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well, not sure if he's necessarily top 10 material either but he is solid

i do rate him, and shore much higher at bw

at fw this a toss up
 
Goatenstein said:
Not championship guys but way better than most Dana White Card Filler Series guys.
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They are better than a lot of guys in UFC.

I still think Shore can beat anybody at BW.

He got get his ass in shape for a cut.
 
JustOnce said:
I don't think Shore missed weight before, but I think that's what they thought about his weight classes that he have to move up.

Not sure if it's a good decision for him, but a win today can change that narrative quick.
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I like the kid so I hope he wins too sir.
 
StonedLemur said:
I like the kid so I hope he wins too sir.
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JustOnce said:
Shore is better than Zalal pound for pound imo.

But this is at FW so. But Shore is no easy fight for anybody and I still think he can beat anybody at BW.

But Shore is better skilled than Zalal. This fight could go either way. Zalal is pretty good too so.
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No, He is not, like I told you he belongs to 135, Zalal is just one level below ilia in grappling but he is very good.
 
AL-Tappo McSnappo said:
No, He is not, like I told you he belongs to 135, Zalal is just one level below ilia in grappling but he is very good.
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He is. He is just smaller and got rocked bad.

Um I was the one who said he should get his ass back down to 135 long before you mentioned it.

Zalal is pretty good. Not like I didnt say that either. Shore is better p4p. He wouldve been able to get the fight down from those positions at 135.

Great win.
 
Not understanding such interest in such mid level fighter. I'm pretty sure UFC is giving Zalal the job of beating fighters who aren't UFC level to cut them
 
PrideNverDies said:
Not understanding such interest in such mid level fighter. I'm pretty sure UFC is giving Zalal the job of beating fighters who aren't UFC level to cut them
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Just cuz they aren't Ankaleev, doesn't mean they are mid.

You seem mad or something from the other thread
 
JustOnce said:
Just cuz they aren't Ankaleev, doesn't mean they are mid.

You seem mad or something from the other thread
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I actually made a Topuria is ducking Evolev thread. You just have to be trolling with how bad your takes are
 
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