Izzy is just overrated striker

[Juzie]

I swear, I always thought it was a joke or blown out of proportion when people would say that whenever someone at the top level loses Sherdog goes and say they were never that good. But goodness gracious, this is crazy.

How can you even try and discredit Izzy when the opponents you listed that gave him problems are elite strikers or ex champions themselves.

Robert Whittaker has knocked off contenders consistently until the DDP fight. Kelvin Gastelum has one of the best boxing fundamentals in the division, Alex Periera is Izzy's kryptonite, and Cannonier is no slouch either.



Because Izzy isn't a boxer.

Come on you been here since 2011 and you thought it was just a joke? You were around for the Cain vs JDS trilogy right? The way sherdog flipped flopped between who is better and who is overrated between each fight was hilarious.

 

[The Don]

Come on you been here since 2011 and you thought it was just a joke? You were around for the Cain vs JDS trilogy right? The way sherdog flipped flopped between who is better and who is overrated between each fight was hilarious.

I know. I should have known better. I'm slippin'

Edit: I don't think I was actually active when the trilogy happened. Did they just keep switching sides? lol

 

[TJH Exitium]

It’s unbelievable to me that he allowed Sean to constantly walk him down, and back him up, while throwing no punches. Izzy should’ve moved laterally, not backwards, and at times planted his feet and blasted sean with hard jabs. And when he wasn’t doing that, he should’ve had his jab in Sean’s face non-stop.
I can’t believe what I witnessed.

imagine Terence Crawford being pushed back and pressured all night, by a guy in a weak Philly shell that’s not throwing punches!

It's hard to move laterally and control with jabs, when your opponent is better at movement and jabbing than you are

 

[Ropeee]

I swear, I always thought it was a joke or blown out of proportion when people would say that whenever someone at the top level loses Sherdog goes and say they were never that good. But goodness gracious, this is crazy.

How can you even try and discredit Izzy when the opponents you listed that gave him problems are elite strikers or ex champions themselves.

Robert Whittaker has knocked off contenders consistently until the DDP fight. Kelvin Gastelum has one of the best boxing fundamentals in the division, Alex Periera is Izzy's kryptonite, and Cannonier is no slouch either.



Because Izzy isn't a boxer.

I picked Strickland to win and who are these elite strikers bar Alex a fucking one dimensional Whittaker lmao and he is nightmare for Alex stylistically and still Alex owns him

 

[chinarice]

Had close fight with Cannonier,Whittaker,Romero and lost to Jan Pereira and Sean on the feet.

People overrated Izzys striking because he is bad matchup for Alex and he still lost to him 3 times.

Izzy is jabbable as fck has very poor boxing defence, bad boxing combinations, throws sloppy leaping hooks againt the fence and he doesn't have power too and doesn't attack the body

Imagine how shitty Pereira must be for losing to this overrated bum

Strickland sends Pereira to the morgue in a rematch.

Bum glory strikers

 

[aali14]

B-b-b-but look at his feints! They look so cool and high level!

 

[Ropeee]

It’s unbelievable to me that he allowed Sean to constantly walk him down, and back him up, while throwing no punches. Izzy should’ve moved laterally, not backwards, and at times planted his feet and blasted sean with hard jabs. And when he wasn’t doing that, he should’ve had his jab in Sean’s face non-stop.
I can’t believe what I witnessed.

imagine Terence Crawford being pushed back and pressured all night, by a guy in a weak Philly shell that’s not throwing punches!

Kickboxers are flawed as hell in MMA

 

[Paolo Delutis]

And the circle jerk continues lol..

This is why people say Hate is so close to Love...

Horrible take and comments in here lol ..

Btw... Calling Izzy a shit fighter discredits those who beat him too ..and who he has beaten

I guess Alex and Strickland arent that good since they easily beat the overated champion in Izzy and therefore arent really good themselves because Izzy isnt good ... Also Romero,whittaker and Cannonieer are shit fighters for losing to Izzy the overated striker...

Think hard everyone before opening your mouths ..

Spoiler

izzy kickboxing record 75-5, Izzy's MMA record 24-3, overall fighting record 99 win and 8 losses but yes just an overrated stricker ...LOL

 

[2004 account]

Nah, but he is an overrated mma fighter...overrated by the ufc and some fans.




He is a world class striker with a lot of experience but few accolades. Doesn't take away from being a high specialist in his discipline

 

[NationWideNinja]

Styles make fights, when are you shertards gonna understand that. Its easy to say that someone sucks after they get their game negated by someone with a specific skillset.

Izzy always struggled with finding openings on defensive fighters, and he doesnt like it when hes pressured against the cage. He generally negates that by scoring on the defensive fighter with legkicks and pecking away at distance, circling out when they try to cut him off, and countering hard when hes caught with his back against the cage.
Enter Strickland who happens to be an amazing defensive talent who also moves forward and is great at cutting off the cage. He gave Izzy no breathing room, no space, didnt allow him to score with the legkicks, and didnt get sloppy in the pocket. Whenever Izzy circled out he just walked him down while blocking, checking, parrying, or dodging anything Izzy threw at him and constantly throwing that jab at a confused Izzy.

You have to have a specific combination of skills to replicate what Strickland did. Other guys cant stop the scoring with legkicks like that, other guys cant cut him off like that without getting countered hard, etc.

 

[NationWideNinja]

Nah, but he is an overrated mma fighter...overrated by the ufc and some fans.




He is a world class striker with a lot of experience but few accolades. Doesn't take away from being a high specialist in his discipline

Lol. 5 title defenses, which puts him at like #10 in the list of all-time UFC title defenses. 24-3, only two losses at middleweight and one of those avenged, yeah he truly is an overrated MMA fighter lmao

 

[Coolkid666]

Brain dead thread

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

I normally hate the "he was overrated" talk after a fighter loses but I think this one is actually true. We aren't dealing with a one-off loss.

- Had an incredibly competitive fight with Gastelum where he got hurt
- Had an incredibly close fight with Yoel and could have lost a decision
- Got completely shut down by Jan and lost a decision
- Had a very close rematch with Whittaker and skated by with a decision
- Had an uneventful fight with Cannonier
- Got Ko'ed by Pererira
- Almost got TKO'ed by Sean and lost a decision

Yet despite all of that, the UFC hyped him up as the greatest MW of all time and better than Anderson Silva. I just never saw that. Anderson wasn't losing or having close fights during his return. You'd get the occasional boring match from Anderson but you could tell he was bored and still played with his food. Meanwhile, Izzy was having close fights and even losing. They aren't even in the same category.

Izzy is very good. Even great. He's not however a GOAT and the pattern was there that he was beatable and extremely overrated by the promotion and fans.

 

[Chillez]

What if...and this is going to be a fucking retarded take so be prepared....the dudes he was fighting in title fights weren't so bad themselves?

Because it seems like Izzy's had a pretty great career from my casual perspective.

Yes of course Izzy has had fantastic career that has made him a legend in the sport.

 

[Ropeee]

Lol. 5 title defenses, which puts him at like #10 in the list of all-time UFC title defenses. 24-3, only two losses at middleweight and one of those avenged, yeah he truly is an overrated MMA fighter lmao

Title defences againt who Marvin Vettori or Costa

 

[2004 account]

Lol. 5 title defenses, which puts him at like #10 in the list of all-time UFC title defenses. 24-3, only two losses at middleweight and one of those avenged, yeah he truly is an overrated MMA fighter lmao

He is overrated imho by the ufc who over sells him as the goat already and better than Anderson (atleast joe Rogan seems to think so)

 

[tasticles]

He had a bad night and suddenly his striking technique is garbage?

That's why almost none of the fighters post here now. Everyone is trash as soon as they lose and said by people that have never even put a glove on in their life.

 

[wildchild88]

Rewatched the fight.

Izzy looks emaciated, a bit thinner, missing that robustness in his physique.

In previous fights, he had the pop to make fighters respect him, he seemed very flat.

Sean Strickland's style won't go well against a decently skilled power striker.

Very weird fight for me, congrats to Sean, but I don't see him being a long reigning champ.

Honestly, I think Izzy might have lost a step, he didn't look right from the get go. I know Sean pressured him, and had an effective game plan, but yeah Izzy looked weak / drained.

 

[NationWideNinja]

Title defences againt who Marvin Vettori or Costa

Yes, and against Whittaker x2, Romero, Cannonier, and also beat Pereira, Gastelum, Brunson.

 

[TheBulge]

Nah cmon, dont lose perspective. He may not have been the Goat striker like some claimed, but his elite skillset in that regard cannot be questioned.