Diet/Fasting I've been eating Bryan Johnson's 'Blueprint Protocol' For 3 Months: AMA

[Deleted member 609094]

I don't care for Bryan Johnson on a personal level but labelling somebody an "influencer" doesn't change what he does. You're in the thread of a person who has had their lifestyle and health markers changed by following a free, well researched, self-testing long-term protocol. Having a million followers or products for sale doesn't remove what he has done.
Do your own reading through the rest of the thread. You sound bitter.

 

[messi_is_imba]

The infamous biohacker

 

[SuperAlly]

You are a full grown adult male now restricting yourself to 2000-2250 calories and eating more real foods. Not shocked your health has improved.

 

[Devil's_Advocate]

How are you doing now?

I was going to start a thread about Bryan's blueprint.
Amazing how much negativity is in this thread.

The man is sharing his account of the best intake for him.

I have been leaning towards more of his diet by default and my own research/results.

I shall post my own bloodwork in a couple of months but my own diet is as:

Breakfast "shake" at 0700
75g whey
75g ground oats
10g chia seeds
10g cacao powder
+
Single espresso
7g creatine
Multi vit
MSM/Glucosamine and Vit C

Lunch 1200
150g dryweight black lentils
Chopped garlic
Ginger
Turmeric
Salt

also
200ml tomato juice
30ml olive oil
Black pepper
3 boiled eggs

Shake at 1700
Same as breakfast

With additional small supplements, I'm hitting all of my nutrient needs.

I'm slow dropping fat at a sedentary life

It's such a fine balance getting it all.

I'm aiming for 110kg very lean approx 12% bodyfat. I'm 197cm.

At almost 44, mental reflection and ego dissolution are stronger than ever.

Being able to live maximum health as long as possible is goal.
I'll likely end up almost vegan later down the line if the supplements are adequate.

Brother I am very happy to hear you're making positive changes in your life. But I am willing to guess that the vast majority of your changes are due to finally eating better, tracking your macros and nutrients, being more active, etc...

The reason I have a negative view of Bryan blueprint Johnson akin to David Sinclair is because he has become quite a bit of a kook. He gave up doing the proven biohacking methods of life extension such as taking sorolimus (rapamycin) and metformin. I don't know if he takes somatotropin(HGH) which is largely behind anti aging for celebrities. I believe he stopped TRT which is literally how most of the celebrities like Stallone, Arnold and your random 80 year old grandpa on the web stay jacked. He takes estrogen which has significantly feminized his appearance. I don't know if it's by design or what.

He doesn't even take any of the cutting age peptides or supplements available to Biohackers and don't cost 2 million dollars. I don't think he takes Thymalin (or any thymus rejuvenation peptides), Epithalon, does any high dose melatonin protocols, or anything else that I know about. He also does a lot of goofy shit like measures night time erections for himself and his son, he had a transfusion of his son's blood and also there are some allegations of him being creepy(sexually harassing his staff after making everyone sign NDAs).

There's no need for monthly colonoscopies or whatever other silly shit he does. He also doesn't do everything out of the goodness of his heart, it serves as a marketing tool. His monthly vitamin plan is something like 300$ when I checked a few months ago. He was talking about how amazing his cocoa beans are IIRC and how others have high levels of metals only to later have to pull his off the market for the same thing. He claims to have biomarkers of a 20 year old and to be in better shape than his son but it's all based on very mixed/inconsistent science. There's no test on the market that can consistently predict a person's age.

So he's literally using something that has little to no scientific validity to brag about how fit he is. He doesn't compete in anything against people his age so there's no objective measure of comparison. The best I've seen him do was 5 chin ups on video(as part of some several hour podcast) even though he claims to do 15 pull ups and chin ups. Everything he did in his circuit that I saw was laughably light. Big claims demand big proof.

In any case like I said I am happy that you were able to get something useful from his blueprint and as always we have our own opinions but I hope I explained where I am coming from.

You are a full grown adult male now restricting yourself to 2000-2250 calories and eating more real foods. Not shocked your health has improved.

Exactly this.

 

[Devil's_Advocate]

Who is more savory, this Bryan Johnson or the other Brian Johnson (LiverKing)?

Both influencers with products to sell.

Liver King was also every bit of a scammer. He was taking massive amounts of steroids while pushing his line of supplements and pretending his raw meat diet was the reason he was so jacked.

They both lie and deceive in their own way.

Bryan Johnson has a 300$ a month supplement line and it's crazy expensive. He relies on tests which have no proven scientific validity to claim he's among the top people at age reversal. There have been people submitting independent tests to multiple places and they received results all over the place.

He doesn't compete against people his age in anything so there's no objective measure to show he's a top e.g. triathlon or marathon athlete. He also doesn't perform any feats of strength or lifts to show off his youthfulness. The best I've seen him do was 5 good chin ups as part of a several hour podcast he did ...he claims he does 15 chin ups and 15 pull ups and something like 800lb leg press(somewhat meaningless) but even these claimed feats were not on any video I've seen. I saw him do circuits with some light weights.

My issue with him is he doesn't do any of the truly biohacking things when it comes to proven supplements or medicines. He stopped TRT, sorolimus and metformin IIRC (I could be misremembering on one of them). He doesn't do some of the other things I know about which can work wonders. He does do saunas and cold plunges which are good but nothing that you would spend two million a year on. Red lamps likewise do not cost a lot. No one needs monthly colonoscopies or the other silly things he does like measure his nightly erections.

I don't think I've seen him discuss proven senolytic stacks like Dasatinib and Quercetin (or even Fisetin and Grapeseed Extract). I don't know if he runs HGH(he probably pulses it). He takes estrogen which has feminized his appearance and I don't know what it did to his biomarkers. I haven't seen him discuss Soviet peptides like Thymulin/Thymalin and Epithalon which were studied in gerantology. Even some supplements with a lot of potential like melatonin or methylene blue are not mentioned. There are more and more researchers believing that aging is an issue of mitochondrial disfunction.

I generally would stay away from their products.

This is not to say someone is not able to get anything beneficial from Bryan Johnson's protocols. If it pushes you to be healthier then great. I think RFK Jr. is a kook but he was the reason I finally gave methylene blue a try and it has been the single best supplement I've ever used(with over 100 various supplements and peptides over 25+ years).

 

[dogday111]

Liver King was also every bit of a scammer. He was taking massive amounts of steroids while pushing his line of supplements and pretending his raw meat diet was the reason he was so jacked.

They both lie and deceive in their own way.

Bryan Johnson has a 300$ a month supplement line and it's crazy expensive. He relies on tests which have no proven scientific validity to claim he's among the top people at age reversal. There have been people submitting independent tests to multiple places and they received results all over the place.

He doesn't compete against people his age in anything so there's no objective measure to show he's a top e.g. triathlon or marathon athlete. He also doesn't perform any feats of strength or lifts to show off his youthfulness. The best I've seen him do was 5 good chin ups as part of a several hour podcast he did ...he claims he does 15 chin ups and 15 pull ups and something like 800lb leg press(somewhat meaningless) but even these claimed feats were not on any video I've seen. I saw him do circuits with some light weights.

My issue with him is he doesn't do any of the truly biohacking things when it comes to proven supplements or medicines. He stopped TRT, sorolimus and metformin IIRC (I could be misremembering on one of them). He doesn't do some of the other things I know about which can work wonders. He does do saunas and cold plunges which are good but nothing that you would spend two million a year on. Red lamps likewise do not cost a lot. No one needs monthly colonoscopies or the other silly things he does like measure his nightly erections.

I don't think I've seen him discuss proven senolytic stacks like Dasatinib and Quercetin (or even Fisetin and Grapeseed Extract). I don't know if he runs HGH(he probably pulses it). He takes estrogen which has feminized his appearance and I don't know what it did to his biomarkers. I haven't seen him discuss Soviet peptides like Thymulin/Thymalin and Epithalon which were studied in gerantology. Even some supplements with a lot of potential like melatonin or methylene blue are not mentioned. There are more and more researchers believing that aging is an issue of mitochondrial disfunction.

I generally would stay away from their products.

This is not to say someone is not able to get anything beneficial from Bryan Johnson's protocols. If it pushes you to be healthier then great. I think RFK Jr. is a kook but he was the reason I finally gave methylene blue a try and it has been the single best supplement I've ever used(with over 100 various supplements and peptides over 25+ years).

I don't feel sorry for people who throw their money at these grifty influencer types. They honestly deserve to lose money. Unless the victims have diminished mental capacity or something, such as learning disabilities or suffer from age related dementia - then it's bad because that's actual exploitation. But what's more annoying than the grifters are their legions of groupies who defend the grifter's honor pro bono on any perceived public slight to their guru cult leader.

With LiverKing, he is way too clownish that I sometimes truly wonder if it's just a shtick he's doing. Like literal satire. That he and his legions fans both know he's intentionally being a clown and playing a buffoon like character. But then there are moments where he seems serious. I keep going back and forth on it. Is it satire or is it delusion?

His steroid secret thing is a joke. Again, to me, it was so obvious from the get go he's on the sauce. Maybe because I am active in the fitness space and have seen it all. It was just too obvious. And so for anyone to be "shocked" that he later admitted to using steroids, it's like, really guys? I am finding it hard walking in the shoes of normies who were truly duped by his juice-status.

With Bryan, his supplements are ridiculously priced. Though the only saving grace here is the grift seems to target the wealthy only. Even though poorer folks will be susceptable to the marketing too, only the middle to upper middle class can truly afford to drop that kinda cash for his stuff. And he probably intended it to be so, hence the ridiculous pricing. So it's a case of a rich guy taking advantage of other rich people with money to throw around. It's a case of 'meh'. But what is still annoying though is his insistence on being the "Top 1% of all 20 year olds" at every biometric but he can go and hurt his ankle dancing recently, which is a very senior citizen thing to do, when most real 20 year olds probably don't hurt themselves dancing. Maybe you're not the top 1% of all 20 year olds.

The TRT thing is debatable for longevity. Some scientists say testosterone activates mTOR more often because it's anabolic, which lowers longevity. There are also studies like how eunichs with no balls and no testosterone have been known to live longer than the average male. Females also live longer than males. So maybe too much testosterone isn't good for longevity. Great for health span for sure, but probably at the expense of lifespan.

I don't care for Bryan Johnson on a personal level but labelling somebody an "influencer" doesn't change what he does. You're in the thread of a person who has had their lifestyle and health markers changed by following a free, well researched, self-testing long-term protocol. Having a million followers or products for sale doesn't remove what he has done.
Do your own reading through the rest of the thread. You sound bitter.

But you're the one who's bitter at the passing mention of Bryan Johnson being labelled an "influenccer". I don't even understand your gripe. He is an influencer, what more is there to argue about? He is many things. A businessman, male, Californian, human and yes, and influencer. He is also hawking expensive supplements to his followers. What is there to dispute?

 

[Devil's_Advocate]

I don't feel sorry for people who throw their money at these grifty influencer types. They honestly deserve to lose money. Unless the victims have diminished mental capacity or something, such as learning disabilities or suffer from age related dementia - then it's bad because that's actual exploitation. But what's more annoying than the grifters are their legions of groupies who defend the grifter's honor pro bono on any perceived public slight to their guru cult leader.

With LiverKing, he is way too clownish that I sometimes truly wonder if it's just a shtick he's doing. Like literal satire. That he and his legions fans both know he's intentionally being a clown and playing a buffoon like character. But then there are moments where he seems serious. I keep going back and forth on it. Is it satire or is it delusion?

His steroid secret thing is a joke. Again, to me, it was so obvious from the get go he's on the sauce. Maybe because I am active in the fitness space and have seen it all. It was just too obvious. And so for anyone to be "shocked" that he later admitted to using steroids, it's like, really guys? I am finding it hard walking in the shoes of normies who were truly duped by his juice-status.

With Bryan, his supplements are ridiculously priced. Though the only saving grace here is the grift seems to target the wealthy only. Even though poorer folks will be susceptable to the marketing too, only the middle to upper middle class can truly afford to drop that kinda cash for his stuff. And he probably intended it to be so, hence the ridiculous pricing. So it's a case of a rich guy taking advantage of other rich people with money to throw around. It's a case of 'meh'. But what is still annoying though is his insistence on being the "Top 1% of all 20 year olds" at every biometric but he can go and hurt his ankle dancing recently, which is a very senior citizen thing to do, when most real 20 year olds probably don't hurt themselves dancing. Maybe you're not the top 1% of all 20 year olds.

The TRT thing is debatable for longevity. Some scientists say testosterone activates mTOR more often because it's anabolic, which lowers longevity. There are also studies like how eunichs with no balls and no testosterone have been known to live longer than the average male. Females also live longer than males. So maybe too much testosterone isn't good for longevity. Great for health span for sure, but probably at the expense of lifespan.


But you're the one who's bitter at the passing mention of Bryan Johnson being labelled an "influenccer". I don't even understand your gripe. He is an influencer, what more is there to argue about? He is many things. A businessman, male, Californian, human and yes, and influencer. He is also hawking expensive supplements to his followers. What is there to dispute?

He also does crazy shit like measuring his and his son's nightly erections and had his son's blood or plasma transfused into himself...

I think blueprint is marketed at many middle class people which is millions and millions of people. Many are hardly rich. If you live in a high cost area you're well off on paper only. In my area less than like 105k qualifies you as low income.

I found it funny when his cocoa beans ended up with high metal levels and had to be temporarily pulled from the market after they had a whole marketing campaign about how all the other brands suck and have these heavy metals but his don't.

Also his olive oil is literally called "Snake Oil".....it's almost like if he ever gets sued his lawyers can argue no reasonable person would believe any of his products weren't complete scams...and everyone who tries to say they thought the name was tongue in cheek ...well tomAto tomatO type of a thing...

 

[dogday111]

He also does crazy shit like measuring his and his son's nightly erections and had his son's blood or plasma transfused into himself...

I think blueprint is marketed at many middle class people which is millions and millions of people. Many are hardly rich. If you live in a high cost area you're well off on paper only. In my area less than like 105k qualifies you as low income.

I found it funny when his cocoa beans ended up with high metal levels and had to be temporarily pulled from the market after they had a whole marketing campaign about how all the other brands suck and have these heavy metals but his don't.

Also his olive oil is literally called "Snake Oil".....it's almost like if he ever gets sued his lawyers can argue no reasonable person would believe any of his products weren't complete scams...and everyone who tries to say they thought the name was tongue in cheek ...well tomAto tomatO type of a thing...

Yeah the erection thing was wierd and made him repulsive. He seems to inject sexualized commentary a lot to his content. I kinda had an incling to this wierdness about him even from the get go from a year or two ago when I first heard of him.

I actually first learnt of him via mainstream media. At the time a lot of reporters from all kinds of networks would be invited to his home and try his blueprint meals. One of the ingredients in his mix drink was spermidine. I watched interviews of him back to back with different reporters and influencers and he'd kinda do the same thing. He will often tell them he's adding spermidine specifically (of many ingredients) into his drink and then he will actually then stare at their facial reactions. Kinda like probing response to the shock value at a quasi-sexual related word. I was like, why do you do this? Because the word includes "sperm"? I had many wtf moments once I noticed that trend. The walking around shirtless thing was whatever, a lot of health influencer do this. But then not shockingly, he later started mentioning and measuring erections and that whole thing.

True, maybe even poorer folks will fall prey to the marketing and buy his expensive products. That's a shame I guess. Gotta know where you stand financially and how much you can afford to throw away. Ultimately everyone has to make adult decisions and not fall prey to grifts.

Doing an armchair psychoanalysis, I do think since he is currently a multi-millionnaire who once griped about exiting his company early and could have held and become a billionnaire, that he probably wants to become a billionnaire now and creating a top supplement company is his way of doing it. I hear a lot from people about how he's already rich and so his supplement company is just breaking even and altruism, when it's actually just insanely naive to think there is any limit to sucess an ambitious person will strive for. If that were the case, we wouldn't have billionnaires who continue working or go into politics. There is no limit to their ambition, even if they are already a multi-millionnaire and can retire comfortably.

I agree about Snakes Oil. I think it's kinda a pre-emptive and calculated self-deprication on an expected criticism. Like a dumb person will say they are dumb and then make a dumb statement. Are we not then allowed to criticize the dumb comment that was just made because he pre-emptively disarmed you by self admitting to being dumb? His fans will be like: "Oh you can't call it snakes oil because he's in on the joke and he is self depricating", when I just shake my head at the naivete.

 

[Ibm]

He has solid content. Its just eating like him would be too expensive for a regular person.