It kinda pisses me off how a guy like Bruce Lee gets more credit and recognition than real fighters

[Cindynice420]

The guy has fanboys on every corner, i see videos and comments on youtube by guys saying that bruce would dominate the ufc, he hits harder than a heavyweight and moves like a flyweight, i saw a comment with shit load of likes saying that bruce would beat michael jai white in a fight, yeah, you heard it right... A tiny Asian man that stood at 5ft6 150lbs soaking wet beating up a 6ft2 200+lbs jacked mulitple black belt life time martial artist. He also hits harder than Mike Tyson... Who are these individuals that spread this type of misinformation?

I dont get it, he has no proffesional fights on his record, in anything... And there is no footage of him fighting or competing against any pro or known fighter.

At least chuck norris has a karate record.

It seems its better to fake it till you make it than actually doing it for real.

Can someone explain it to me, what impresses you?
He's athletic, looks good in movies, has cool quotes, the one inch punch that has no tie in with actual fighting where your opponet doesnt stand there and let you hit him (in most cases) and oh dear, worst case scenario pushes you back slightly.

I look at him the same way i look Steven Seagal, at least Seagal taught Silva that front kick.



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Well at lest he’s dead now right? You get the
Last laugh ts

 

[The Highlight]

People think his fighting philosophy would translate into his skills.

I don't he'd react to a punch in the face very well.

He was a master martial artist and had faster reaction skills than anyone in MMA today.

 

[The Highlight]

Why does it bother you?

Obviously Bruce was a highly skilled Martial Artist and he played a significant role in bringing MA's to the North American mainstream.

Would he have had success in MMA had it been around at the time? Who the hell knows but I have too imagine he probably would have done all right for himself.

Fact is he's done more for the advancement of Martial Arts then any MMA fighter has and assuming he couldn't fight because he didn't have the platform available today is just foolish. As is slandering the man or being bothered enough to take the time to make yet another "Bruce Lee sucks" thread.

For the record I'm not in any way a Bruce Lee fan and don't really care about him but it seems pretty obvious to me he was a pretty fucking good MAist and it seems like a pretty reasonable assumption that he could probably actually fight a little.

Hahaha pretty good mma fighter?! He was the best ever to live. Fight a little? Gtfo

 

[The Big Bang]

Well at lest he’s dead now right? You get the
Last laugh ts

TS is getting shit on more than Trumps McDonaldiapers.

 

[The Highlight]

Bullshit.

Jackie Chan and Jet li alone have done more in Police story/OUATC alone than what Bruce did.

Then add in JCVD, Sammo Hung, Yuen Biao/yuen Wah/Tony Jaa.

Most people miss the point that Bruce kick started MA movies in the west, yet in China/HK they had already set things in motion well before Bruce and his “Chinamen can beat the western man” BS.

And as for his mindset he wasn’t the only one who thought that way, it’s simple evolution just so happens he had the loudest voice at the time.

But THE most glaring fact he was not a fighter was the simple fact he never stepped into a boxing ring, despite what praise he was given Bruce was clearly a more wily Steven Seagal.

Hell his most entertaining movie was actually the one they made about his life DRAGON THE BRUCE LEE STORY.

Actually Jackie Chan was more of an actor than Bruce Lee was. Jet li is amazing but had a different style.

 

[The Big Bang]

Actually Jackie Chan was more of an actor than Bruce Lee was. Jet li is amazing but had a different style.

Drunken Master 2 and Fist of Legend... Fuck yeah.

 

[The Highlight]

He was a martial artist and an actor.

He knew a lot about martial arts, he definitely knew what he was talking about when it came to martial arts. He even revolutionized martial arts.

But he would get ran over by any top 20 UFC bantamweight.

Disagree totally. He was much faster and stronger than any bantam weight. Know one even comes close except maybe DJ.

 

[TheMaster]

The guy has fanboys on every corner, i see videos and comments on youtube by guys saying that bruce would dominate the ufc, he hits harder than a heavyweight and moves like a flyweight, i saw a comment with shit load of likes saying that bruce would beat michael jai white in a fight, yeah, you heard it right... A tiny Asian man that stood at 5ft6 150lbs soaking wet beating up a 6ft2 200+lbs jacked mulitple black belt life time martial artist. He also hits harder than Mike Tyson... Who are these individuals that spread this type of misinformation?

I dont get it, he has no proffesional fights on his record, in anything... And there is no footage of him fighting or competing against any pro or known fighter.

At least chuck norris has a karate record.

It seems its better to fake it till you make it than actually doing it for real.

Can someone explain it to me, what impresses you?
He's athletic, looks good in movies, has cool quotes, the one inch punch that has no tie in with actual fighting where your opponet doesnt stand there and let you hit him (in most cases) and oh dear, worst case scenario pushes you back slightly.

I look at him the same way i look Steven Seagal, at least Seagal taught Silva that front kick.



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The guys been dead for almost 50 years and still creating discussion and a bigger name than ANY current or former MMA fighter.
Says all you need to know, he pioneered cross training in the US,the Gracie's never did.

 

[blewgums]

OH he fought plenty trust me, they just weren't documented and no they were not sanctioned before you ask. He was a street fighter so knowone wanted to fight him because he could literally kill them. He doesn't fight with rules, he fights to kill there's a big difference.

No ma'am.

 

[TheLinguist]

Actually Jackie Chan was more of an actor than Bruce Lee was. Jet li is amazing but had a different style.

Doesn’t matter, both have them have contributed more.

But if you wanna be factual Bruce was a child actor before he was every an MA action actor.

 

[The Big Bang]

Doesn’t matter, both have them have contributed more.

But if you wanna be factual Bruce was a child actor before he was every an MA action actor.

People that shit on Bruce are merely shitting in their own mouth.

 

[TheLinguist]

People that shit on Bruce are merely shitting in their own mouth.

Literally not true.

 

[liljuey]

This chick "Alan Gregorson" is an annoying ass poster. Stay off the forums for a couple days.

 

[fzoid4454]

The guy has fanboys on every corner, i see videos and comments on youtube by guys saying that bruce would dominate the ufc, he hits harder than a heavyweight and moves like a flyweight, i saw a comment with shit load of likes saying that bruce would beat michael jai white in a fight, yeah, you heard it right... A tiny Asian man that stood at 5ft6 150lbs soaking wet beating up a 6ft2 200+lbs jacked mulitple black belt life time martial artist. He also hits harder than Mike Tyson... Who are these individuals that spread this type of misinformation?

I dont get it, he has no proffesional fights on his record, in anything... And there is no footage of him fighting or competing against any pro or known fighter.

At least chuck norris has a karate record.

It seems its better to fake it till you make it than actually doing it for real.

Can someone explain it to me, what impresses you?
He's athletic, looks good in movies, has cool quotes, the one inch punch that has no tie in with actual fighting where your opponet doesnt stand there and let you hit him (in most cases) and oh dear, worst case scenario pushes you back slightly.

I look at him the same way i look Steven Seagal, at least Seagal taught Silva that front kick.



Discuss

Are you under some weird impression that he was some sort of thespian who then faked fighting skills (Matt Damon as Jason Bourne, for example)?

He was a martial artist, and was given a crossover vehicle into movies because of that.

Jet Li meets those exact same dimensions. Is not a particularly great actor, but has a lot of movie credits to his name (mostly because Lee opened up that market to mainstream movies). Are you going to tell me that because he's in movies that he's not a legitimate martial artist?

Yes, the fanboys who claim he'd destroy any MMA fighter with ease are delusional. Their stupidity does not have to be countered with your own stupidity by claiming that he was a complete fraud.

Steven Segal does actual (exaggerated for movies, of course) legitimate joint locks and manipulation in his movies. Now, his movie suck, he's a crap actor, but he's an actual martial artist. Do those skills actually play out like that in real life? Of course not. That's not what non-documentary movies are about.

Fan-idiots seem to think what they see in the movies would play out like that in real life. You seem to be arguing that because they are in movies and the directors do things for exaggerated effect, that they automatically don't have any real skills.

That's two sides of the idiot coin.

It's possible that they can be wrong without needing to shit on Lee.



^^^ Looks like he was a pioneer in full contact sparring. Sorry that martial arts wasn't as established back when he was around. He was the one who brought it into the mainstream. Damn, he was fast!

Took me all of 15 seconds to find this footage of him INTRODUCING FULL CONTACT at a karate tournament. This preceded the first professional kickboxing in the USA by SEVEN YEARS. The first US kickboxing contest was a year after he died.

You can't find footage of him fighting "known fighters" BECAUSE IT DIDN'T EXIST when he was alive.

 

[suffersystem]

Disagree totally. He was much faster and stronger than any bantam weight. Know one even comes close except maybe DJ.

If Lee from then stepped into today's cage against the champ he would lose. Now, if Lee had the training we have today, then he could do well. Without proof I for one could not say for sure. Word of mouth street fights from back alley's are not documented proof.

 

[mjoln]

....and mma-fighters gets more credit than those who fought in real wars

if you fight for something important then there is no need to give flying fuck about how big name you are in social media

 

[Flboycanscrap2]

I agree the myth of Bruce Lee is mostly Hollywood "Smoke and Mirrors", but your reasoning skills are far worse. Sorry, but it's very obvious )

Questions my reasoning skills, then provides no actual argument or evidence for that opinion.

Nice try, lol.

 

[Flboycanscrap2]

“Was never a fighter” ?

I suppose his numerous street fights and opponents literally jumping into his back yard doesn’t count? It sounds to me like you don’t know anything about the man, his life, or his contribution.

Sit down junior.

You do understand what unsubstantiated claims are right? There is no proof of Bruce Lee being involved in any street fight ever, and he never competed in any of the combat sports available to him at the time. To believe he was a fighter ever is downright foolish. I have done my research on Bruce before.

So, enjoy your seat on the floor with your thumb in your mouth.

 

[Flboycanscrap2]

yeah and there were people before them doing it and all they did was completely rip off kano. see how everyone gets fucked in some way?

I'm fine with giving credit to the originators. Difference between the Gracies and Bruce is that the Gracies added legitimate technique and Bruce only offered philosophy.

 

[Flboycanscrap2]

Bruce would have demolished those scrawny BJJ twinks

Bruce Lee IS a twink.