It kinda pisses me off how a guy like Bruce Lee gets more credit and recognition than real fighters

[TheLinguist]

The OP has SO much shit piled on top of herself that she may never be heard from again...

At least he will live which can’t be said for Bruce

 

[The Big Bang]

At least he will live which can’t be said for Bruce

Bruce lives on in the hearts and minds of countless people.

Bruce probably inspired YOUR fav fighters.

When the OP is no longer with us (we are all going to die, such is the nature of existence) will he live on like Bruce....................... loooooooool

 

[Swarthy]

Fair point, i got inspired by real fighters for the most part, not movie actors, maybe it was because i got into mma in my late teens instead of as a 6 year old kid

You don’t train. You are not even worthy to lick Bruces piss off a toilet rim.

Jesus the absolute gaul.

 

[Flboycanscrap2]

Ive seen a lot of blue belts in BJJ, college wrestlers and Judo black belts get roughed up by bigger athletic guys with no proper martial arts backgrounds quite a few times. Ive seen the opposite more, of course train martial artists taking it to bigger, stronger men but still. Im not sure a blue belt is just gonna choke out Bruce Lee assuming theyre similar sizes or a highschool state champ even.

That being said I've heard people speak as if Bruce would be a UFC champion, beat Buakaw in Muay Thai and possibly knock out the likes of Mayweather or Canelo type deals. Which is, insane. He his more myth than man, he never had professional fights nor have we seen him compete at a high level in anything.

Big athletic guys are dangerous but you have seen "A Lot" of "blue belts in BJJ, college wrestlers and Judo black belts" roughed up by untrained big guys? Where? How Many?

Even though you are acknowledging the opposite is more common, it is still a big assertion for one person to make anecdotally.

Regardless, Bruce Lee is not a big guy, in fact he is tiny. An average guy is way bigger than Bruce and even a properly trained guy of similar size shouldn't have much problem. He is just a striker at best and his athleticism is overblown, he doesn't have any high level athletic background at all.

There is no evidence that he has any clue how to defend against a takedown or a choke. BJJ is so strong against non-grapplers that knowing fundamentals is good enough to finish chokes at a high percentage, non-grapplers have no idea what they are dealing with and panic. Moreover, state champ wrestlers are not bums by any stretch, the average 18 year old all state or state champ wrestlers is fucking up a lot of people.

Acknowledging that Bruce cannot beat professionals is fine, but to assert that he could even beat amateurs with kryptonite level skills in his regard is ridiculous.

Bruce Lee is only 1 step above Frank Dux.

 

[The Big Bang]

Big athletic guys are dangerous but you have seen "A Lot" of "blue belts in BJJ, college wrestlers and Judo black belts" roughed up by untrained big guys? Where? How Many?

Even though you are acknowledging the opposite is more common, it is still a big assertion for one person to make anecdotally.

Regardless, Bruce Lee is not a big guy, in fact he is tiny. An average guy is way bigger than Bruce and even a properly trained guy of similar size shouldn't have much problem. He is just a striker at best and his athleticism is overblown, he doesn't have any high level athletic background at all.

There is no evidence that he has any clue how to defend against a takedown or a choke. BJJ is so strong against non-grapplers that knowing fundamentals is good enough to finish chokes at a high percentage, non-grapplers have no idea what they are dealing with and panic. Moreover, state champ wrestlers are not bums by any stretch, the average 18 year old all state or state champ wrestlers is fucking up a lot of people.

Acknowledging that Bruce cannot beat professionals is fine, but to assert that he could even beat amateurs with kryptonite level skills in his regard is ridiculous.

Bruce Lee is only 1 step above Frank Dux.

People that shit on Bruce are merely shitting in their own mouths.

He was a martial artist in the truest sense of the term.

But hey, don't take my word for it, just listen to ACTUAL fighters like Rickson and SO MANY UFC FIGHTERS talk about him.

 

[Flboycanscrap2]

People that shit on Bruce are merely shitting in their own mouths.

He was a martial artist in the truest sense of the term.

But hey, don't take my word for it, just listen to ACTUAL fighters like Rickson and SO MANY UFC FIGHTERS talk about him.

Lol. What a ridiculous argument.

Being an Icon doesn't mean you are actually legit. It doesn't matter how many fans you have and who your fans are if you are a fraud.

Fighters revere Bruce Lee the same way a lot of dummies do bc he is super popular not bc he has merit.

Those fighters aren't thinkers typically and trying to use their opinions as an argument is basically an argument from authority by proxy which is a logical fallacy.

Bruce Lee is only 1 step removed from Frank Dux type people.

Learn how to reason or STFU.

 

[The Big Bang]

Lol. What a ridiculous argument.

Being an Icon doesn't mean you are actually legit. It doesn't matter how many fans you have and who your fans are if you are a fraud.

Fighters revere Bruce Lee the same way a lot of dummies do bc he is super popular not bc he has merit.

Those fighters aren't thinkers typically and trying to use their opinions as an argument is basically an argument from authority by proxy which is a logical fallacy.

Bruce Lee is only 1 step removed from Frank Dux type people.

Learn how to reason or STFU.

You are simultaneously shitting on Bruce AND fighters who were and are inspired by him.

By your logic, all of those fighters are fame whores? They cannot think for themselves? They are all about popularity over SUBSTANCE?

GTFO.

You're simply JEALOUS.

 

[Y2Khaos]

When was the last time any of you mother fuckers actually watched a Bruce Lee movie that wasn't Enter the Dragon? I recently binge watched a few. If it's been a while since you've seen one go watch Game of Death, Fists of Fury, and Chinese Connection. Then come back and say he was an exceptional martial artist. He was an actor who did martial arts, not the other way around. If he was an elite martial artist who was so much better than everyone else he sure didn't show it in his movies. He looked like every other actor in any random kung fu movie.

 

[andyjeezy]

There were guys in that era that would of beat the shit out of Bruce Lee. Saensak Muangsurin was a Lumpinee champion as well as WBC boxing champ at 140lbs, he would of smashed Bruce Lee in any ruleset in the early 1970s. Obviously Carlson Gracie would of destroyed Bruce Lee as well. Maybe his ideologys we're good and he was a hell of fight choreographer but we should be wearing Carlson Gracie, Ivan Gomes, Ad Santel, Samart Payakaroon t-shirts.

 

[listrahtes]

He also planted the seed for MMA to get huge,

<Lmaoo>
This is so comical wrong but I am done arguing about it.

Americans and their fascination with actors is really mind numbing. This is an american phenomenon. The worshiping of celebrities. It has created monsters like the Kardashians and Trump were you really think a society tries to lobotomize itself (not that Trumps opponents are much better this is not vs. republicans).

Lee was great at marketing some asian mumbojumbo philosophy he copied and never lived by himself. It was more important to make money and live the good life. Nowhere better than with ancient asian secrets for deluded hippie folks.

Its so funny when you hear people talk about that there wasnt much high level MA in his time so he had to create it, while there were a ton of killers in several martial arts well known and some also cross trained. But he HAD to create his own MA you know because <Lmaoo> and for sure never to compete in anything substantial.

You want a real pioneer for MMA and not some joke:

Take John Bluming for example. Now that is someone who deeply influenced stand up and development of studying different styles. A true martial artist.

Lee would have gotten a reality check the first time he would have entered serious boxing / wrestling etc training but he avoided that like the plague.

In the end its the story about a poor guy who made something out of himself but had a deep inferiority complex so he had to overstate everything and could never face a real threat in martial arts. In other terms he could never really learn anything. His fight with annother "grand master" was just a small brawl with a waiter who trained a little. Thats the scale Lees real talent was.

But people want to believe. Oh man talk about mass delusion

 

[VB MMA]

Questions my reasoning skills, then provides no actual argument or evidence for that opinion.

Nice try, lol.

I guess I could start at your statement about Religion. Jesus has already been proven to be a Historical figure. Just one of many in the Chrisitianity Religion. Bruce Lee did have a Fight with another so-called Master from his community. I'm not saying Bruce Lee could beat an MMA Fighter. It just can't be proven. It's all speculation. LOL

 

[HwoarangStyle]

People just can't let go of myths and unsubstantiated claims. Look at religion. lol

Bruce Lee was never a fighter and would get spanked by any all state high school wrestler or any bjj blue belt with ease.

Leave "it's still real to me dammit" in the rearview.

lmfao bruce lee would knock the fuck out of any highschool kid state wrestler or not.

 

[boss429]

I found lots of people get too carried away with how good bruce was but way more people underestimate how good he was and say he was nothing more then an actor which is retarded if you actually researched enough about him. The more you research into the facts of bruce lee and what professional fighters said about him the more you realize he was a good martial artist and way ahead of his time which is what hes so popular for

Well to be fair there are 15 minute long video's on YouTube with everybody who was anybody at the time saying Fedor was the greatest of all time yet posters still claim he was a can crusher and a bum.

Based on that it should come as no surprise so many posters are delusional enough to think a guy with obvious elite level MA's skills would be incapable of competing in MMA because he was an "actor" with no official record in a sport that didn't exist in his day.

Clearly he was just "acting" and those apparent MA skills were simply an illusion only made possible through the magic of Hollywood.

To think he may have been able too translate those skills into actual combat with any sort of success is absolutely absurd.

Could you even imagine if he had been forced too compete against the likes of a Leonard Garcia type in a MMA match.......

Who ever actually sanctioned such carnage would probably end up behind bars. I mean it would be akin to sanctioning a fight between a pro Wrestler with 0 MA's experience and an experienced MMA fighter. Such madness could never happen and would most certainly end in death!!! Lol.

 

[Krimzon]

Bruce Lee guillotine KILLED 8th dan jiu jitsu blackbelt Chuck Norris.

Bruce Lee > Jiu jitsu

 

[Flboycanscrap2]

I guess I could start at your statement about Religion. Jesus has already been proven to be a Historical figure. Just one of many in the Chrisitianity Religion. Bruce Lee did have a Fight with another so-called Master from his community. I'm not saying Bruce Lee could beat an MMA Fighter. It just can't be proven. It's all speculation. LOL

Jesus has very limited historical evidence but is most likely a historical figure, yes. But none of his magical claims have any evidence, yet people still believe those.

Bruce Lee's fight with Wong Jack Man is highly contested with many different accounts, and has notably said looked like both didn't know how to fight. That is the main reason why Bruce Lee wanted to cross train and understand the chaotic nature of fighting. Go watch all the modern mma guys destroying hapless "kung fu masters" in china right now. Being a "master" doesn't mean anything if you cant prove your ability.

Yes, smart to not make a bs claim, but Occam's razor trends toward the default, which is we shouldn't believe you can fight until you prove it.

 

[Krimzon]

Bruce Lee's fight with Wong Jack Man is highly contested with many different accounts, and has notably said looked like both didn't know how to fight.

Chuck Norris would dispute that account from anonymous.. if he was still around

 

[Flboycanscrap2]

You are simultaneously shitting on Bruce AND fighters who were and are inspired by him.

By your logic, all of those fighters are fame whores? They cannot think for themselves? They are all about popularity over SUBSTANCE?

GTFO.

You're simply JEALOUS.

Are you really this much of an idiot?

I once admired Bruce Lee too, and now i dont bc of research and reasonable thought.

Icons inspire a lot of people, that doesn't mean anything. Do you still think Frank Dux and bloodsport is real?

First fighters are not the brightest, and there is a reason most don't end up becoming analysts or high level coaches. Poor analytical ability and they are likely ignorant that Bruce is a fraud just like most of the population. SIMPLE.

Have you not listened to fighter interviews? Most of these guys don't even know what is going on currently in there own divisions or are even fans of the sport or combat sports in general. They are mostly just ignorant but talented athletes. You should not take their opinions too seriously just like with any celebrity with a big voice.

Bruce Lee was a celebrity actor not a fighter or even a fighting prophet. Get over it.

I'm not jealous of a dead fraud. Lol.

 

[Flboycanscrap2]

lmfao bruce lee would knock the fuck out of any highschool kid state wrestler or not.

Lololol.

The average 18 year old athlete dwarfs Bruce, he ain't knocking any of them out b4 they throw him on his head. Bruce hasn't been proven to have knocked anyone out EVER. What a ridiculous statement.

 

[Flboycanscrap2]

Chuck Norris would dispute that account from anonymous.. if he was still around

Are you saying Chuck Norris was there that day, bc I have never heard that before ever?

 

[The Big Bang]

Are you really this much of an idiot?

I once admired Bruce Lee too, and now i dont bc of research and reasonable thought.

Icons inspire a lot of people, that doesn't mean anything. Do you still think Frank Dux and bloodsport is real?

First fighters are not the brightest, and there is a reason most don't end up becoming analysts or high level coaches. Poor analytical ability and they are likely ignorant that Bruce is a fraud just like most of the population. SIMPLE.

Have you not listened to fighter interviews? Most of these guys don't even know what is going on currently in there own divisions or are even fans of the sport or combat sports in general. They are mostly just ignorant but talented athletes. You should not take their opinions too seriously just like with any celebrity with a big voice.

Bruce Lee was a celebrity actor not a fighter or even a fighting prophet. Get over it.

I'm not jealous of a dead fraud. Lol.

Did ghost Bruce Lee knock up your girlfriend or something.

Geez.