International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[Madmick]

israel attacked iran with the support of the US, using US bombs, over US/iran negotiations.

There is no indication of USA "support" of this attack. In fact, to the contrary, Trump has indicated we provided no military support (intelligence or otherwise).

This is not reprisal for Iranian behavior in negotiations. Trump is pointing out that Iran had an opportunity to strike a deal involving the USA as a mediator that could have prevented Israel's attack, but failed to make that deal.

We have sold them billions in military equipment, yes, that's the only thing you've written that is true. I am not yet aware if American-made equipment was primarily used in the attack, or just partly, but I wouldn't be surprised if either was true.

 

[Rob Battisti]

My disgust for Israel is very clear, but anyone who thinks that Israel would not wipe their ass with Iran in a military conflict after seeing what just happened as a complete idiot.

 

[USA!USA!]

My disgust for Israel is very clear, but anyone who thinks that Israel would not wipe their ass with Iran and the military conflict after seeing what just happened as a complete idiot.

It’s pretty mindblowing.. Iran had prepared for this and still had their top guys wiped immediately. Some in bunkers where they thought they were untouchable.

Has to scare the hell out of potential opposition.. you are never safe.

Let’s hope Iran comes to their senses before it gets worse for them. They are outmatched. Just being realistic here.

 

[BoomStronk]

What exactly has Israel nuked recently?

- the concept of international law
- the hope of ever living in peace in a region surrounded by people who hate you
- the chances for humanity to escape this period of history without serious bloodshed and destruction
- the reputation of humanity as a whole as capable of rational and long-term collectivist thought.

 

[Squarechoke]

I'm not going to believe that the US government has been against this in any way. They are just happy with Israel officially standing alone as a proxy, but claiming that there's no involvement at all seems about as believable as your generic Russian denial.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

There is no indication of USA "support" of this attack. In fact, to the contrary, Trump has indicated we provided no military support (intelligence or otherwise).

i don't mean hands-on support from the US. we pay their bills, we make their weapons, and they serve our interests. now, we have an official statement from trump cheering israel on and threatening more violence if iran doesn't accept trump pulling out of the deal and renegotiating on worse terms.

This is not reprisal for Iranian behavior in negotiations. Trump is pointing out that Iran had an opportunity to strike a deal involving the USA as a mediator that could have prevented Israel's attack, but failed to make that deal.

no. iran's initial behavior, ramping up their nuclear program was reprisal for trump pulling out of the nuclear deal. israel used that as an excuse to attack them, again, with the US's support. we now have a statement from trump vocally supporting this action, even if he's not sending in US troops as of now.

We have sold them billions in military equipment, yes, that's the only thing you've written that is true. I am not yet aware if American-made equipment was primarily used in the attack, or just partly, but I wouldn't be surprised if either was true.

what else would they be made with? israeli tech blueprints they bought from us decades ago?

 

[cabal]

I remember when Trump said Biden going to drag us into a war with Iran a friend of mine said that Israel does not have any heavy bombers. That the warheads the Israel owns are not deep penetration type. They will need B-52 or B-1 bombers to drop large heavy bombs that can deep penetrate where the nuclear enrichment is going on. He said Russia armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons and how many of these where actual used? He said Iran is developing nuclear weapons to use as a deterrent but these Countries are watching what is happening in Ukraine they don't want to be next. Nukes are used as a deterrent for these Countries that lack massive armies. Do I like Iran no I hate them they are tied to so much bad crap but this has been in the works.

Trump will be the good shabbo goy , fear not.

 

[Blayt7hh]

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Have to agree. The chances of this going ahead without being given the nod by the US seems reaching. This mission is a high stakes game and risky. No way they do it alone without backing.

I doubt they could have pulled it off without us actively helping. I don’t think they could have known where to strike without us feeding them surveillance information

 

[KnightTemplar]

^^ get banned already , stop dreaming of Peter Parker inside you

Concession accepted.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Well...that sucks for me

 

[Madmick]

I'm not going to believe that the US government has been against this in any way. They are just happy with Israel officially standing alone as a proxy, but claiming that there's no involvement at all seems about as believable as your generic Russian denial.

Trump just made it clear as day the USA isn't standing in Israel's way. The posters who despise Israel are confusing approval with active support.

You know, it's funny. Over the past two decades I often heard it repeated that Iran and the Arab countries would decimate Israel if the USA wasn't standing behind them with our big stick. Hawks like myself laughed at the ignorance of this. Sure, we sell them hardware, and provide them financial aid they send right back for it, but Israel doesn't depend on that, because the bitter truth you guys won't swallow is that money always spends, anywhere, and Israel has plenty of its own, so if we didn't sell them equipment better than what the Iranians had, someone else would.

The truth you guys have learned over the past two years is that the big bad USA wasn't holding back all these Arab nations with a hand on their chest. We've been holding a rope around Israel's hands behind its back.

Now you see what happens when our American hands come off. It's a Rorschach Watchmen moment. Israel ain't locked in there with them. They're locked in there with Israel. Welcome to reality.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Trump just made it clear as day the USA isn't standing in Israel's way. The posters who despise Israel are confusing approval with active support.

You know, it's funny. Over the past two decades I often heard it repeated that Iran and the Arab countries would decimate Israel if the USA wasn't standing behind them with our big stick. Hawks like myself laughed at the ignorance of this. Sure, we sell them hardware, and provide them financial aid they send right back for it, but Israel doesn't depend on that, because the bitter truth you guys won't swallow is that money always spends, anywhere, and Israel has plenty of its own, so if we didn't sell them equipment better than what the Iranians had, someone else would.

The truth you guys have learned over the past two years is that the big bad USA wasn't holding back all these Arab nations with a hand on their chest. We've been holding a rope around Israel's hands behind its back.

Now you see what happens when we go hands off. Welcome to reality.

I love this post so much, I wish I could have it's babies.

 

[usernamee]

I love this post so much, I wish I could have it's babies.

You're really out here having a great Friday, aren't you

 

[Sir Punchalot]

It’s pretty mindblowing.. Iran had prepared for this and still had their top guys wiped immediately. Some in bunkers where they thought they were untouchable.

Has to scare the hell out of potential opposition.. you are never safe.

Let’s hope Iran comes to their senses before it gets worse for them. They are outmatched. Just being realistic here.

The Israelis are doing impressive work, no doubt about that. But from what I understand, there are still crucial, very well protected sections left at the facility in Natanz. And these definitely have to be destroyed, or Iran's nuclear scientists can basically just go back to work on Monday and continue what they're doing.

So it's way too early to declare this attack a success. The Israelis of course know that this is a case of now or never, though, so it's a sure bet that they will do what's necessary to finish the job one way or another. That's something that we in the West obviously have a long tradition of denying them, but this time they're not going to give two fucks about what drooling morons over here with zero understanding of the Middle East think. Facing a serious threat to your existence kinda has a way of making you not care about other people's opinions, after all. Especially when those opinions are as absurdly poorly informed as is the case here.

 

[Samjj]

I doubt they could have pulled it off without us actively helping. I don’t think they could have known where to strike without us feeding them surveillance information

Iran has been the primary focus of Israel’s intelligence apparatus for the greater part of 30 years. I have no doubt that intelligence sharing occurred for this, but you probably have the majority of that information stream backwards…

 

[KnightTemplar]

You're really out here having a great Friday, aren't you

The only way this day could get any better would involve Sidney Sweeney, handcuffs, duct tape and a can of chocolate cream.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

My disgust for Israel is very clear, but anyone who thinks that Israel would not wipe their ass with Iran and the military conflict after seeing what just happened as a complete idiot.

I am not a fan of Israel and thought this strike was just stirring up shit…. Take out one or two high ranking people and just pissed everyone off.

But this was next level. Will be interesting to see the fallout, but may be good for the region and lead to less bloodshed.

Most of the Arab countries are against Iran’s extremist leadership and terror funding. From what I am seeing, a number of Arab countries helped intercept the “counter-attack” Iran launched

I am still pretty shocked at how efficient this attack was

 

[Cajun]

Israel has good tech, but Iran has like 10x the population, let alone other countries in the region with populations more than Israel.

They have a bunch of bunker busters which may be able to strike deep enough to take out facilities, but that is a maybe. This was big miscalculation

Netanyahu needs to go.

 

[Siver!]

My disgust for Israel is very clear, but anyone who thinks that Israel would not wipe their ass with Iran in a military conflict after seeing what just happened as a complete idiot.

True.

This is what people thought Russia vs Ukraine would be, only it actually is.
The one question is whether Iran can actually launch such a massive attack that it overwhelms Israeli defences.

I think no.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

The Israelis are doing impressive work, no doubt about that. But from what I understand, there are still crucial, very well protected sections left at the facility in Natanz. And these definitely have to be destroyed, or Iran's nuclear scientists can basically just go back to work on Monday and continue what they're doing.

So it's way too early to declare this attack a success. The Israelis of course know that this is a case of now or never, though, so it's a sure bet that they will do what's necessary to finish the job one way or another. That's something that we in the West obviously have a long tradition of denying them, but this time they're not going to give two fucks about what drooling morons over here with zero understanding of the Middle East think. Facing a serious threat to your existence kinda has a way of making you not care about other people's opinions, after all. Especially when those opinions are as absurdly poorly informed as is the case here.

i love that even though israel keeps bombing them, demanding war, and murdering their civilians every year or two, here you are claiming iran poses THEM some kind of existential threat and not the other way around.